HoakinBlackforge Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Im really gonna hate myself for doing this, but for some reason im forced to. Since update 12 and 13 came, old vay hek and phorid from eris, have been removed from their planets, being unique assasinate missions. Due to that, now neurodes are really hard to get, for everyone, even with a nekros you can get nothing. But, this happens too with argon crystals, even with half hour survivals, i didnt even get a single crstal. I dont know what is DE doing but this has to stop, its stupid to put those extremly rare resources to make us grind for hours and for nothing. Materials are not tradable, they dont affect on anything in the game! I am really about to stop playing the game of how impossible is to get weapons now, since of this godamn RNG. If archwing doesnt do anything about this, then im seriously quitting the game until they REWORK the entire loot and reward system, because is PATHETIC. Im sorry for raging, but, this is really true, its unnaceptable, that you put your time to get those materials for weapons, and nothing you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 something gotta be rare... else what would you do? at least they arent behind RNG walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P0isoNblacK Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 have u ever played survival or defense missions? like 40 mins t1 survival? crystals are there. 50 waves on defense? U guys need to learn to play the game.. it's like the same people looking for rare stuff for cheap prices all the time. I played 5o waves to get some nyx prime bp and ppl laugh at u when u try to make profit for the efforts u put in game. That is pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infernogr Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Well argons arent that hard you can do some void exterminations of any tier and brake the boxes that are scatered around, you will find some for sure. Also orokin cells just go to the boss of the planet that has orokin cells and there you go Edited October 22, 2014 by infernogr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3dsh0t Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Orokin Cells - Ruk on Saturn drops them a LOT. Neurodes - Lephantis drops them quite a lot, sometimes 2 or 3 a run, plus can get orokin cells as well. T4 Defence and Survival drops them like crazy, been running T4s 30 minute runs the last few days and have like 50 stocked up. Rare materials are quite simply that, rare. But not so rare that that they are impossible to get, if you know where to look. Edited October 22, 2014 by H3dsh0t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoakinBlackforge Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 have u ever played survival or defense missions? like 40 mins t1 survival? crystals are there. 50 waves on defense? U guys need to learn to play the game.. it's like the same people looking for rare stuff for cheap prices all the time. I played 5o waves to get some nyx prime bp and ppl laugh at u when u try to make profit for the efforts u put in game. That is pathetic But its stupid that you have to play on survival and defense only to get higher chances, and NO IM NOT STAYING HOURS FOR A SINGLE DROP. This is not how you play the game. For fucks sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P0isoNblacK Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) it's stupid but it's the way it currently is for now. What about getting VOID keys while running void survivals? It's somewhat Stupid i know and I agree in some ways with you but it's all about grinding. That's how this game works. It's not FPS Edited October 22, 2014 by P0isoNblacK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3dsh0t Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) But its stupid that you have to play on survival and defense only to get higher chances, and NO IM NOT STAYING HOURS FOR A SINGLE DROP. This is not how you play the game. For fucks sake. No, thats just not how YOU want to play the game. I'm fine with the way it is, because its not hard to get any resource in the game, provided you think about it. it's stupid but it's the way it currently is for now. What about getting VOID keys while running void survivals? It's somewhat Stupid i know and I agree in some ways with you but it's all about grinding. That's how this game works. It's not FPS You do get keys from survival, Tower 1 survival gives you keys. And trust me, keys do not need to drop in any other survival than tower I right now. Edited October 22, 2014 by H3dsh0t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostosti Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 there is barely anything in the game that requires any argon crystals. And the ones that require it, only need a few of them. It shouldnt be a problem for anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I dont have problem with anything atm. NS can be easily farmed on IO, Orokin Cells are a bit pain but also not hard to farm and i have over 200 Neurodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infernogr Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I dont think you have to run huge survivals i get mine from small void runs just searchthe container and you will find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriviagene Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 ODD neurodes,cells kiste ceres,argon whatever void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Mobile Defense are excellent for dropping rare mats... Kiste - Ceres for Orokin Cells is famouse for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiBBz Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Orokin Cells - Ruk on Saturn drops them a LOT. Neurodes - Lephantis drops them quite a lot, sometimes 2 or 3 a run, plus can get orokin cells as well. T4 Defence and Survival drops them like crazy, been running T4s 30 minute runs the last few days and have like 50 stocked up. Rare materials are quite simply that, rare. But not so rare that that they are impossible to get, if you know where to look. please dont say that a specific boss drops them ALOT or commonly etc because they dont. they may have done so for you but its all RNG there is no effective way are quickly farming orokin cells / nearual sensors / Neurodes etc it all bottles down to how lucky you are in trying to get them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P0isoNblacK Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 that's it. Play the game and quit demanding stuff for free.. there's ppl actually putting time and efforts into long missions for those rare items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoakinBlackforge Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 But its boring and frustrating that you have to do the same thing over and over to get a single thing, they could just make in mission rewards a random material drop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiBBz Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I dont have problem with anything atm. NS can be easily farmed on IO, Orokin Cells are a bit pain but also not hard to farm and i have over 200 Neurodes. Quick tip for Orokin cells > dont go in on the soul purpose of just farming them but rather just get a group up and power level weapons / warframes etc and keep doing that on Kiste (Ceres) i done around 200 runs over a span of a month souly on the purpose of leveling some extra stuff i never got the chance to use. and turns out i came out without realizing it 172 OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trieuazn0 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 if you need argon, can i suggest grabbing a fast frame (somthing that can move around the map alot like volt or excala) run a t1 capture mission, and looking for that one giant challange room, im not sure whats it called. in most of the times ive gone looking for argon, everytime ive come across those special challenge rooms, it would reward me with a few rare cores and argon as the end also, how much more easyer do you want the items to drop, as in look at resources like Gallium and Control mods, they are meant to be rare, but people have billions of them, do you want them to be as common as those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Quick tip for Orokin cells > dont go in on the soul purpose of just farming them but rather just get a group up and power level weapons / warframes etc and keep doing that on Kiste (Ceres) i done around 200 runs over a span of a month souly on the purpose of leveling some extra stuff i never got the chance to use. and turns out i came out without realizing it 172 OC. Yea, i end up with around 50-60 by just doing random runs where they drop. And then new prime items strike, and i am down to 25 again. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantlais Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I have to agree, kinda. It's a pain slogging away at a defence or assasinate for those notorious orokin cells but it is do-able. Same goes for argon, do-able but not at all fun, just grinding. Makes obtaining higher level gear way more difficult for casual players than people who've forma'd every weapon in the game but I can see the sense in making this gear more for higher level/serious players. I don't however agree in making it drop dead boring because of farming. I mean, do any of the people who slog it out with corrupted for hours on end actually enjoy it? I doubt it and it definately makes the game seem unfair at points, as if overcoming boredom is an in-game challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 OC...............kiste, ceresneurodes.....lephantis, or earthargon...........void survival/defenseplus......neural sensors.......not SALAD V, elara jupiter, survive 20m and you'll get 1, and try to open the lockers too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P0isoNblacK Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 i agree with nantlais and yeah things will change they cannot keep the game they way as it currently is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3dsh0t Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 please dont say that a specific boss drops them ALOT or commonly etc because they dont. they may have done so for you but its all RNG there is no effective way are quickly farming orokin cells / nearual sensors / Neurodes etc it all bottles down to how lucky you are in trying to get them I gave my opinion as to where I find it easier to farm, because I am one of these weird people that thinks survival sucks massive nuts, and I only doing it in the void for a Rare 5 core farm, thats it. Nothing in this game is difficult to get when you put a bit of effort in. If resources were easier to get, everyone would quickly turn to "I have everything now what do I do next". Rare resources provide a bit of longevity because you actually have to work for something, and it slows you down a bit from getting and maxing every weapon in the game then deciding to quit because you've run out of things to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Argon crystals are rare? I always seem to have around 6 at all times and I don't go into the void to often. I wish they actually had more uses. Just open every locker you can find and try and find them treasure rooms. I also don't find neurodes or cells to hard to get either. Excavation on earth seems to give at least 1 neurode pretty reliably before you hit a 1000 points. I havn't bothered figuring out good places to farm cells because I always seem to have 20 or so lying around. Oddly enough I can't get forma to save my life. RNG clearly only only wants me to have rare materials. Edited October 22, 2014 by StinkyPygmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Argon crystals are rare? I always seem to have around 6 at all times and I don't go into the void to often. Just open every locker you can find and try and find them treasure rooms. I also don't find neurodes or cells to hard to get either. I find excavation on earth seems to give at least 1 neurode pretty reliably before you hit a 1000 points. I havn't bothered figuring out good places to farm cells because I always seem to have 20 or so lying around. Oddly enough I can't get forma to save my life. RNG clearly only only wants me to have rare materials. I had 32 at time when Loki Prime was released. Argon is quite easy to farm, i dont see why people are complaining. Just run void, or leech other keys if you dont have your own. Edited October 22, 2014 by RoboDoge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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