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Syndicates: Alliances, Values And Rewards


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It's too bad the ideologies you want to support may be in direct conflict with items you want. And I don't see people trading these items so casually outside of their clans. I want knowledge and evolution, but I also want dat Rhino ability. I'm looking forward to the higher tier syndicate missions, also.

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Hey guys.. really love the new update..

 

i need clearity on the Syndicates.. currently im with cephalon suda and also initiated with hexis..

so how does the rep distribution work?

 

can you join more than one syndicate?

do i get more rep for the syndicate whos regalia i wear or how?

 

thanks..

 

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Can we get more information on Syndicate mechanics? My Perrin Sequence is currently at Rank -1, but shows a sacrifice of Forma + 50,000 credits. Does this mean if I ever want to switch to it, I have to get positive rep AND pay that sacrifice? I assume if it reaches -2, the required sacrifice will be even more costly. Do we have to re-pay for ranks/titles in a syndicate if we lose them to due working for an opposing syndicate? So far, the ranks are pretty costly. Forma for all Rank 2s, Orokin Reactors for all Rank 3s. Can't even imagine what we have to pay to hit rank 5.

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huh, so at the end of the day we get to pick our syndicate based on the weapons or warframes we favor? great..

 

Self interest governs all, even with this.  There's only one faction that you'd call charitable, anyway.  The rest are certainly more mercenary-like.  Besides, you can't 'help' the syndicate if they don't help you in return.

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Just here to dispel myths, conspiracy theories and such about affinity and standing gain. This is a post I did in another thread:

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/332870-solo-standing-gains-testing-facts/page-2#entry3744065

 

OP is clearly an amateur. Sorry I'm not trying to insult him or anything but he clearly did the simplest mistakes, comparing his results when the data (and here the xp gain) was clearly not the same as well as not doing his homework on how affinity and the xp system works (especially this one). Let me explain.

When you do missions in solo, the simple low lvl ones, you get from 20-200 mobs, 2-10 affinity orbs and cast from 10-20 abilities. (numbers are made up just to prove my point) So in essence the total xp gained varies greatly. Now if you do a defense with 10+ waves, the number of mobs that come at you is more or less the same to a very small % of difference of course.

So whenever I have been doing missions in dark sectors I have seen around 900 or 1000 reputation gain for 20 waves while my friends were always having 450 or 500. We where 4, on teamspeak comparing our results after each mission. Every time I had 50% more reputation then them and they where starting to accuse me of witchcraft (seriously they where talking about sacrificing me to the rng god and cthulhu while at it).

Then I saw the only difference between me and them: the number of weapons we had. They all went in their lvl 30 equipment while I was re-formatting my boltor prime and had only that equipped, a frame and my shade. I told them try taking off a few stuff and try. Next we went in again with this combo:
- Me: frame, pet, rifle
- Dude1: frame, rifle
- Dudte2: frame, pet, rifle
- Dude3: frame, pet, rifle, pistol, melee (he was saying we where all silly)

In the end, after the same number of waves as before we got (approximated numbers, they varied by 20 or so points):
- Me: 900
- Dude1: 1100
- Dudte2: 900
- Dude3: 450 (it's still a lol)

Then, over and over again we did endless defenses and other missions with min equipement and we got more or less the same results. Around 1000 for 20 vawes in dark sector.

Now as for the theory and homework part. Here is why exactly the OP made a mistake. If you read this page on the wiki:

   If an enemy was killed by a weapon, experience is equally distributed between the weapon used to kill the enemy and your Warframe. (hey op this is why you got those results in sole where you do all the killing) If an enemy was killed with a Warframe ability, your Warframe will gain all the experience (exceptions are Nyx's Mind Control and Chaos and Specters which do not give players any experience, and Nekros's Shadows of the Dead which gives the player's Warframe 50% of the kill experience).

    Some examples to illustrate how this works:
    Suppose a player kills an enemy that grants 300 experience with a Warframe ability. He will gain 300 Warframe experience. Suppose a player kills an enemy that grants 200 experience with his Primary. He will gain 100 Primary experience and 100 Warframe experience.

   Whenever any member of the team kills an enemy, nearby teammates (up to ~50m away) will gain full experience from that kill. It does not matter what that team member used to kill the enemy with (Warframe ability or weapon). This experience is divided among their Warframe and weapons: 25% is given to their Warframe, and the remaining 75% is split between their equipped weapons.

This info about xp gain mechanics as well as my tests show us clearly that (warframe affinity gain)*X = standing.

Want to maximize gain ? Go in alone in solo with ember for example and burn it all ! All the xp will go to your frame and be transformed into standing. Good luck with waves 10+ in defense though...
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Seems a little off-topic, but "Values And Rewards":

Im not sure I understand what DE was thinking about when they were setting those "offerings". A forma? Sure, it take a bit of a time, but nothing out of reach.

Reactors and catalysts? Something that makes a huge deal. Something you dont have lying around. Not a good idea.

 

And Im not buying "But it's optional!" It's a part of content. And not a small one.

 

Syndicates want prime parts too? So RNG found a way to get even here.

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Now this is a syndicate idea, it would help boost most of it's prizes along with each progression and make them meaningful. Please hear me out... I have no idea how to code in these forums, normally I have a guide or shortcut.

basics : http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Syndicates

 

The first image shows :
Syndicate progression :
Where the player is able to choose from the beginning, where first you choose a syndicate.

Then, after choosing one you must work with them and earn points. Reaching higher ranks by doing missions wearing their regalia symbols, from titles.

1.Principled

2.Authentic

3.Lawful

4.Crusader

5.Maxim

 

 

This is where my idea comes in, being able to equip 2 regalia at the same time of the same SYNDICATES.

The current one(beginner) gives you 50%+ of your doings. Now the player will be given out a choice.
Either go for...
1. Buying keys.
2. specters

or still too far from the main reward(mods or others)

 

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This helping giving you a boost, from your current regalia, giving you higher rewards while risking more. But, helping you even more on the long term.

 

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Then my main problem with the regalia, why would I buy more sigils because it "looks cool". Sorry, it just doesn't cut it, all it just seems like a waste on points on my part. So why not give it a purpose where it would actually help the player. Sure, you can't rush it(nor that I am that impatient). It wouldn't necessarily make it easier since you still need to sacrifice and reach around 22K for the highest(EVERY TIME it DOUBLES keep in mind). And keep in mind that you have to wear BOTH for each run you do on every mission you do. Hopefully my point was made.

 

 

*These are not ment to be true, these are just for example do not take these numbers seriously(images).

*Please place constructive criticism
*My English is not that good.

 

Discuss : https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/335877-syndicate-improvement/#entry3765340

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I have All the female Warframes & I use ea one depending on a mission so... How are we suppose to manage all our Warframes & Get Rank 5 rewards for all?!

 

What if I don't like a faction but... I'm forced to use it to more easily manage a group of Warframes.

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I have All the female Warframes & I use ea one depending on a mission so... How are we suppose to manage all our Warframes & Get Rank 5 rewards for all?!

 

What if I don't like a faction but... I'm forced to use it to more easily manage a group of Warframes.

Your standing is across all the frames not just the one you are wearing when you do the mission.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Interested in learning more about Syndicates?  Can't wait for Update 15 to decide which to join?  Need a tiny bit more information to come to the realization that Cephalon Suda is the coolest?  Well, have I got some totally unbiased news for you!

 

Enjoy the mini-primer Tenno, and I look forward to seeing you all represent your Syndicate of choice come Update 15!

 

-DE_Adam

I saw some flaw on the syndicates balance so please.... looking on my topic. I hope people will like it................................or not...... lol

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/350097-sydicates-balance-please-see-this-de/

 

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