Matiny Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 LOL until DE uses real words, I really don't care about proper spelling! Anyways, do you guys think that "punishing players for losing" is a good idea? I remember seeing this concept in another game. Usually when I spot it, I wonder if the devs want to push people away, or if they want us to have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It adds genuine risk and loss for a rare boss fight so I think it is fine, if it were for something more common then it could get to the point of pushing people away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynslustafir Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Why did you add so many letters to Grustrag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hixlysss Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's not really that much of a punishment, you're given the key to get it off like instantly. On top of that it only reduces your damage to grineer, nothing else. So...yeah. As for punishing players for losing. Hi, I'm from the 90's where most games had you restart the entire level if you lost. So there. I welcome stuff like this, too many things are just..."Everybody wins~ You get a award, and you get an award, even the people in the stadium who didn't do anything get an award~" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 It adds genuine risk and loss for a rare boss fight so I think it is fine, if it were for something more common then it could get to the point of pushing people away. Seeing as I need my Neurodes, Mirage has now officially become useless for the next couple months. "Maybe if your build was better" they say. Um... sure, next time a rare boss shows, I'll just exit. Meh. Or I'll just go elsewhere and let everyone else fight while I extract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraShado Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 As for punishing players for losing. Hi, I'm from the 90's where most games had you restart the entire level if you lost. So there. I welcome stuff like this, too many things are just..."Everybody wins~ You get a award, and you get an award, even the people in the stadium who didn't do anything get an award~" *Holds up hand for high five* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's not really that much of a punishment, you're given the key to get it off like instantly. On top of that it only reduces your damage to grineer, nothing else. So...yeah. As for punishing players for losing. Hi, I'm from the 90's where most games had you restart the entire level if you lost. So there. I welcome stuff like this, too many things are just..."Everybody wins~ You get a award, and you get an award, even the people in the stadium who didn't do anything get an award~" Yes, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Seeing as I need my Neurodes, Mirage has now officially become useless for the next couple months. "Maybe if your build was better" they say. Um... sure, next time a rare boss shows, I'll just exit. Meh. Or I'll just go elsewhere and let everyone else fight while I extract. Well ye sure if the game is to hard that is always an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoscythe Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's not really that much of a punishment, you're given the key to get it off like instantly. On top of that it only reduces your damage to grineer, nothing else. So...yeah. As for punishing players for losing. Hi, I'm from the 90's where most games had you restart the entire level if you lost. So there. I welcome stuff like this, too many things are just..."Everybody wins~ You get a award, and you get an award, even the people in the stadium who didn't do anything get an award~" You dont have to be from the 90s to find todays games not punishing enough. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 LOL until DE uses real words, I really don't care about proper spelling! Given that they're the ones who made up the Grineer language, I think they're allowed to make up words that use the aforementioned made up language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraShado Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Seeing as I need my Neurodes, Mirage has now officially become useless for the next couple months. "Maybe if your build was better" they say. Um... sure, next time a rare boss shows, I'll just exit. Meh. Or I'll just go elsewhere and let everyone else fight while I extract. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... No. G3 is a boss fight, that yes kicks you from your mission if you lose. Yes there are frames that aren't as good against G3 (The fragile ones usually) and there are frames that are just godly against them (VALKYR FTW) but every frame with enough practice should be able to take on the G3 with some weaps on the side. Just because you lost once Tenno doesn't mean you are gone forever. You will awaken again. Lotus will find you. And your enemies shall pay in blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendarysidekicksteve Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Seeing as I need my Neurodes, Mirage has now officially become useless for the next couple months. "Maybe if your build was better" they say. Um... sure, next time a rare boss shows, I'll just exit. Meh. Or I'll just go elsewhere and let everyone else fight while I extract. The G3 arent just a "rare boss." They are assassins out to kill you. Failure in games must have consequences, otherwise victory is meaningless. If you do choose to run away, which is a perfectly legitimate strategy if you are feeling outmatched, you miss out on a chance to get parts for one of the best secondary weapons in the game. High risk, high reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 the Resources aren't particularly difficult to collect once you're established enough to be getting Assassin's chasing you. however, perhaps some players will get chased by them too early, which is okay. they'll get destroyed while being completely confused, and later on they'll succeed over the obstacle. the Rusty Rag 3 are pretty much a pushover as long as you use Mobility. they're susceptible to almost all Abilities. and if you kill their Sentinels, people that get downed can't get trapped. can still get killed since they do Damage, but avoiding it is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) It's not really that much of a punishment, you're given the key to get it off like instantly. On top of that it only reduces your damage to grineer, nothing else. So...yeah. As for punishing players for losing. Hi, I'm from the 90's where most games had you restart the entire level if you lost. So there. I welcome stuff like this, too many things are just..."Everybody wins~ You get a award, and you get an award, even the people in the stadium who didn't do anything get an award~" Hi, I'm from the 80's where most games had you restart the whole game if you lost. You 90's young'ns had it easy. Anyway, yeah I'm all for the Bolt. Kinda wish if you got caught by Zanuka, the mission afterward would be harder. But at least there's a "Lose" event so I'm okay with it. As for Grustrag, Lotus TELLS YOU TO RUN. It's your own damn fault if you get a bolt because you didn't run. And... LOL until DE uses real words, I really don't care about proper spelling! Well to hell with creativity then! Let's just call the Grustrag bolt a "Thing" and the Grineer "Those soldier guys" and the Corpus "Those nerds" and the Infested "Zombies". *rolls eyes* Edited October 24, 2014 by SoulEchelon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)IIIDevoidIII Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Moved to a more appropriate section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Hi, I'm from the 80's where most games had you restart the whole game if you lost. You 90's young'ns had it easy. Anyway, yeah I'm all for the Bolt. Kinda wish if you got caught by Zanuka, the mission afterward would be harder. But at least there's a "Lose" event so I'm okay with it. As for Grustrag, Lotus TELLS YOU TO RUN. It's your own damn fault if you get a bolt because you didn't run. And... Well to hell with creativity then! Let's just call the Grustrag bolt a "Thing" and the Grineer "Those soldier guys" and the Corpus "Those nerds" and the Infested "Zombies". *rolls eyes* Yes, I'm very very upset too. Edited October 24, 2014 by Matiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Why did you add so many letters to Grustrag? B/c spelling doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yes, I'm very very upset too. Sarcasm =/= anger. While I was typing that I was actually snickering to myself because I imagined Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds screaming "NEERRRDS!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Sarcasm =/= anger. While I was typing that I was actually snickering to myself because I imagined Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds screaming "NEERRRDS!" Sarcasm when I ask for an opinion, eh? Explain how it makes sense to be sarcastic when I ask an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Sarcasm when I ask for an opinion, eh? Explain how it makes sense to be sarcastic when I ask an opinion. I was being sarcastic about how you think DE should use "real words". Hence where my sarcasm began with where I quoted you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 So you know what I'm thinking, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) "punishing players for losing" is a good idea? Maybe this will blow you mind but yes most games use it, if you lose you get punished and i you win you get rewarded. stop being a casual Edited October 24, 2014 by Dasmir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Maybe this will blow you mind but yes most games use it, if you lose you get punished and i you win you get rewarded. stop being a casual Allow me to steal one of the previous poster's statements: In many other games, they're not really punishments. Oh hey, that argument is easy to use! Just say it and it's true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Allow me to steal one of the previous poster's statements: In many other games, they're not really punishments. Oh hey, that argument is easy to use! Just say it and it's true! Uggggggh really want me to put a WALL OF TEXT with every game that punish you if you fail ? becouse im sure every game does it .. i dont know a single game where you get a cookie if you fall to a abyss into a sure dead. Edited October 24, 2014 by Dasmir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Uggggggh really want me to put a WALL OF TEXT with every game that punish you if you fail ? becouse im sure every game does it .. i dont know a single game where you get a cookie if you fall to a abyss into a sure dead. Having to restart a mission is fine and standard. Having to waste rare resources on top of restarting is the reason that I won't be using Mirage for a while. I'd rather check out the Vasto and Dual Vasto, plus the alternate helmets. Too bad for Mirage, eh? So you can put up a wall of text where you have to waste rare resources on top of losing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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