Ripped Off Hard By Halikar

[Edgarhighman]

So I bought this weapon with plat (which is the first weapon out of 128 weapons built/crafted/ranked) because it would take ME (not you, ME) around 3 months to collect the oxium required to craft it (still finishing Zephyr, haven't even done karyst). So I figured it'd be worth the cost to buy it with plat and have a slot/potatoe.

 

One major problem that wasn't mentioned on the wiki OR in the weapon description.

 

It doesn't explode with power throw. It also likes to fly "around" a group of enemies when you throw it directly into one.

 

If I "Knew" that it did not explode with power throw; I would not have used plat to buy it.

 

So far I got (all maxed) Sundering strike, Rending strike, Pressure point, Spoiled strike, power throw, quick return, AND fury on it.

 

It is so unbelievably weak I feel like I paid a $100 bill on a pack of bubble gum.

 

Example, grineer defense, when they come out of the little caves all lined up like its middle school, and myself, aligned with them throw it (cursor on first guy, aimed towards last - straight line) it'll hit 1-2 guys then start defying gravity flying AROUND everyone and returning.

 

<< TLDR >>

 

DE, could you please make it explode and stop avoiding enemies. Thanks.

Edited October 26, 2014 by Edgarhighman

[AlphaSierraMike]

You can make it explode manually, by equipping the melee weapon and press the channel button while it's mid flight. 

[izzatuw]

You should send a report ticket and get a refund if ya want, if it hasn't passed 24 hours that is

[Edgarhighman]

You can make it explode manually, by equipping the melee weapon and press the channel button while it's mid flight. 

 

 

False. There is NO explosion, no AOE dmg in any manner. It has to physically hit enemies or containers. It makes a puff of smoke, but no bang.

[Nira]

I was having a play around with it earlier today whilst channelling (with maxed Power Throw equipped) and I seem to remember it doing the explosive thing. However this was against a wall so don't know if there's actually any AoE damage being dealt.

 

Past the initial excitement of having a puncture-based throwing weapon, I found the Halikar pretty lackluster. The disarm feature is quite novel, but trying it on something like Ceres will most often get you killed trying to use it (I know 'cause I took it there to level earlier).

Edited October 26, 2014 by Dualice

[ShardsSuperior]

It DOES have the explosion in it.

Channeling while in flight will make it explode.

 

Come on. This is a very powerful weapon. Basically same stats as Glaive Prime with a different Physical focus.

[Azawarau]

That guy above me^

[Icebreccer]

Wait a minute? So maxed Quick Return with Power Throw will be useless on Halikar? I really hope that's not the case.

 

I love my Kestrel and it's my favorite melee weapon along with Kogake. Bought this in hopes for getting alternative for Kestrel. We'll see how this goes.

[Nira]

It DOES have the explosion in it.

Channeling while in flight will make it explode.

 

Come on. This is a very powerful weapon. Basically same stats as Glaive Prime with a different Physical focus.

 

The blast currently does no damage to enemies though. I hope this will get fixed in time.

 

Hmm - I'd have to disagree on the very powerful bit. Its damage and status figures aren't that good, and whilst they're fun to use I find the thrown melees just too impractical for higher level situations. Kestrel at least has knockdown.

 

 

Wait a minute? So maxed Quick Return with Power Throw will be useless on Halikar? I really hope that's not the case.

 

For now at least, it seems to be. I don't know if this is a bug or intended feature. Let's hope it's the former.

[Edgarhighman]

It DOES have the explosion in it.

Channeling while in flight will make it explode.

 

Come on. This is a very powerful weapon. Basically same stats as Glaive Prime with a different Physical focus.

 

It does not explode, there is no AoE. There's a GRAPHIC of Black Smoke puffs. But no AoE dmg. Glaive/Kestrel so much better. EXPLODESSSS

[ShardsSuperior]

The blast currently does no damage to enemies though. I hope this will get fixed in time.

 

Hmm - I'd have to disagree on the very powerful bit. Its damage and status figures aren't that good, and whilst they're fun to use I find the thrown melees just too impractical for higher level situations. Kestrel at least has knockdown.

 

 

 

For now at least, it seems to be. I don't know if this is a bug or intended feature. Let's hope it's the former.

It's on par (maybe just a bit better by brunt of its damage type and slightly higher status chance) as the Glaive Prime. As a market weapon.

 

It does not explode, there is no AoE. There's a GRAPHIC of Black Smoke puffs. But no AoE dmg. Glaive/Kestrel so much better. EXPLODESSSS

O.O

That explains quite a bit, but it's a probably a bug, not an intentional "rip off."

[RealPandemonium]

Submit a bug report about the explosion behavior or lack thereof.  There's no point giving feedback on unintended behavior that should be fixed in the first place.  

[Icebreccer]

You actually bought it with plat? Haha haha hahaha.

You spent plat on a weapon that:

1) looks ugly

2) is weak

3) has 3 alternatives that perform similarly

because you thought it exploded with power throw

Gratz mate !

 

Please shut up and don't be a moron.

[Edgarhighman]

I didn't think it might be a bug, I thought it was intentional. Which would suck hard. I hope they fix it soon, cause it even fails at disarming a clustered group when tossed into them like 12+guys CLOSE knit in a hallway, disarms 2-3, then frantically tries to avoid touching anyone else as it returns (can be visually seen DODGING people it should be hitting upon return LOL...)

[Sasquatchias]

It does not explode, there is no AoE. There's a GRAPHIC of Black Smoke puffs. But no AoE dmg. Glaive/Kestrel so much better. EXPLODESSSS

Actually the "No Explosion" is a bug, one that I've been encountering for a while.

 

The explosion rarely deals it's damage, and does not apply knockdown effects. However I have experienced it sometimes dealing the damage, which leads me to believe its a bug.

[HAYABU5A]

at first i regretted investing 500 oxium and a catalyst into halikar

the kestrel and glaive are great with the quick melee explosion, its very useful

 

with the halikar its a no go

but that means you can drop powerthrow and even quick return for damage mods instead, so more raw damage for melee and direct hits

whirlwind is a must for the longer range and speed

 

versus high level enemies you start to appreciate the disarm and ragdoll slam aoe

disarming the long range weapon from a high level heavy unit is pretty amazing, its like a hand held loki 

ragdolling the mobs around you in a decent radius ofc is priceless in some situations

also you wont accidently damage (or kill!) yourself like the glaive prime explosion build so its safer to spam in close quarters 

 

so its a trade off with less aoe dmg for unique utility i guess

 

i like the air melee animation and jet sound like when you spin attack

 

one thing that would improve the halikar substantially , making it more unique among thrown melee and worthy of its build requirements is if they made any subsequent bounces homing like the first initial throw homes in on enemies

then with rebound equipped you could throw it and it can attempt to hit enemies on all its bounces using the rough homing

kestrel/glaives could do explosions and halikar could multi hit with normal strikes, seems different enough 

[Edgarhighman]

it doesn't disarm people for me, it aerodynamically impossible "dodges" them instead of hitting a group (8-15) of enemies clustered together.

 

Does it explode yet? still wasted platinum. DE. Make Halikar hit groups of enemies instead of purposefully MISSING them. Make halikar explode too, thx!

[StickyBaseline]

I also feel ripped off hard. The stats are equal of the Glaive P, but with better damage type and it's a grineer weapon which I love.

 

I tried it and just loved the sound of it, and that it went as far as the glaive.

 

So I potatoed it and tried out various builds, power throw (didn't work as mentioned)

And a full damage build.

 

The damage doesn't come close to the damage of the glaive, even against grineer. This weapon has pathetic damage, really awkward "homing" ability that does not work.

 

Do not build this weapon.

[BerelHawdos]

Please shut up and don't be a moron.

Did I buy a useless weapon with plat?

[HAYABU5A]

halikar needs to be optimized , not buffed but its mechanics need work

 

i still think adding homing to subsequent bounces after first hit would be great and unique making it the multi hit non explosive thrown melee 

[Edgarhighman]

I also feel ripped off hard. The stats are equal of the Glaive P, but with better damage type and it's a grineer weapon which I love.

 

I tried it and just loved the sound of it, and that it went as far as the glaive.

 

So I potatoed it and tried out various builds, power throw (didn't work as mentioned)

And a full damage build.

 

The damage doesn't come close to the damage of the glaive, even against grineer. This weapon has pathetic damage, really awkward "homing" ability that does not work.

 

Do not build this weapon.

 

DE Please fix. This weapon is jacked, I wouldn't have f***king spent plat if I knew power throw didn't work on it... GOSH DARN. C'MON. First wep bought with plat, (after 130 made w/o plat) and reamed hard. Never again LOL.

[p318309886183791]

at first i regretted investing 500 oxium and a catalyst into halikar

the kestrel and glaive are great with the quick melee explosion, its very useful

.....

versus high level enemies you start to appreciate the disarm and ragdoll slam aoe

disarming the long range weapon from a high level heavy unit is pretty amazing, its like a hand held loki 

ragdolling the mobs around you in a decent radius ofc is priceless in some situations

also you wont accidently damage (or kill!) yourself like the glaive prime explosion build so its safer to spam in close quarters  

Does it disarms and ragdolls 100%?

 

At 500 oxium, I want it disarms, ragdolls and radiation proc 100% at distant target, or i'll just stick with kestrel and its 100% ragdolls.

[Icebreccer]

Kestrel will always stay as my favorite melee. Halikar is just so weak ATM. I wished it could be a good puncture alternative, but it was not.

[yles9056]

Does it disarms and ragdolls 100%?

 

At 500 oxium, I want it disarms, ragdolls and radiation proc 100% at distant target, or i'll just stick with kestrel and its 100% ragdolls.

 

It doesn't have 100% chance to disarm enemy and only ragdolls on slam attack, which has quite small radius.

[Edgarhighman]

DOES IT EXPLODE YET? I should get my plat back. Because its failing hard at disarm, and doesn't explode as Power Throw is supposed to. For real!!!!

 

If I bought honey nut cherios, and they were regular (in honey nut box) That stuff would be going back to the store for a refund.