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Archwing Realy Needs Some More Work


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I got my Archwing today and played a bit together with a friend. We noticed several issues that need to be addressed.

Warframe Archwing relationship

The relationship between the Warframe and the Archwing has a huge design flaw with it. Its extremely problematic that Warframe statts carry over to the Archwing. Its fine that you are using Warframe Mods to improve the Archwing (you should, however release a list of the mods that are working), buts its problematic that Warframe statts carry over. Since only Armor, Health and Shields carry over you made Rhino and Frost the best Frames to sue since they have the highest Shield together with high Health/Armor values, while Frames like Loki dont add up any bonus to the Archwing and have the issues of way less Shields.

My suggestion to fix this is simple. Give every Archwing its own values for every stat and let only Mod bonuses carry over, this way all Warframes would be equally useable.

The first space mission/last Archwing Quest mission

This mission needs some more work. The first issue is that this Mission can have hazzards, if you get an ice hazzard the halved shields will stay for the whole mission, even the space part. The space part itself is way to hectic. First of all you dont get told what your first ability does or how you move, especially the up/down movement would be important. The otehr issue is that you need constant movement to prevent getting hitted by the ship and the Zepelins spawn to much enemies.

My suggestion here is:

- add lines for the Lotus/Ordis to tell you what your fiorst ability does and how to move in the enviroment

- reduce the enemy spawn at Zepelins so palyers have a bit easier time to get used to the gameplay in space

- disable hazards for this mission so you dont get stuff like halved shields

- remove the part where the ship is firing at you so palyers can explore and try stuff out without haste

Item drops and rewards

Items drops are a bit annoying. In space with the distances you fight on its sometimes realy hard to see item drops, especially Mods that are needed. Giving them bigger models or indicators would be very helpfull. Especially in bigger maps you can easily miss the loot. The reward tables for Interception missions need to be fixed as they reward normal Mods instead of Archwing Mods wich makes playing these missions pointless.

Additional Notes/Bugs

- Enemies get stuck in asteroids on a regular basis

- up/down movement does not use alternative key bindings, if have bound an additional key for jumping/crouching that is not useable with my Archwing, limiting my movement

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Yeah I agree on this. Tried loki on those high lvl interception. It was difficult to even to even capture a tower when these guys hit like a tank. And the drops are really hard to see with those vast open space where things far looks like a tiny dots. Would be nice if DE adds a feature that highlights them like Loot Detector, or in fact, why not add a feature where archwing can pick up items like Carrier since we cant bring sentinels to archwing missions.

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frames like loki are not good? boy, you need practice loki is the easiest to play except sabotage since he is too fast

 

Loki only gets ~600 shield while Rhino/Frost get over 1200.

On lower level Archwing missions this does not matter, however on higher level missions you get rekt since enemies spawn with 5-10 at a time.

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frames like loki are not good? boy, you need practice loki is the easiest to play except sabotage since he is too fast

I didnt notice a difference between my Loki and my Rhino, also if you use Arcane Vanguard on Rhino you would get the same speed.

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the helions kill max hp max shield trinity's archwing in 2 vollys since the first disables you then you get hit with the 2nd and die i wasted so many revives XD

maybe there is a link hp link shield mod card but its clearly not dropping for me all i get is gun crit chance wohoo 4% more crit chance and melee damage woohoo 40% more damage jsut enough to 1 shot the low level first mission corpus not enough to matter vs any of the greineer tho

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