Tuuku Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Why is it that once they have an update with an item the needs 500 Oxium, they replace the best Oxium farming sector on Europa (and anywhere else for that matter)... As grinding as this game is, we as Tenno need a reliable place to farm materials, everything costs plat. now and Oxium is ALMOST only obtainable in the market now... it already had a uncommon drop rate, now there is no good farming spot... please someone tell me, what's the deal with that? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg_Chen Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 "Working as intended"... I bet someone has resorted to buying it by now (same with Argon). I wish the new boomerang had been clantech, I'd not have minded Forma and a 3 day wait at all. Also, anyone explain how a new Grineer weapon uses a material only possessed by the Corpus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somedude1000 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) -snip- Wait wut? Didn't know market sold argon :0 I should go check The problem is now unless you're good with spawns, the only place to get them is high level corpus MD's, with about 30 oxium per mission, our challenge is finding the right maps, which there aren't necessarily many of... Edited October 26, 2014 by Somedude1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg_Chen Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Yup, 30p for 300, still better than a bobblehead only we can see! Edit : Also, I have been systematically trying Corpus MDs, nothing comes close to Baal. Neptune - Larissa is the best so far, getting me about 10 a run, which is frankly rubbish. I tell you if the Corpus invade Kappa, I'm single handedly running those Grineer out of there.... Edited October 26, 2014 by Egg_Chen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuuku Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 "Working as intended"... I bet someone has resorted to buying it by now (same with Argon). I wish the new boomerang had been clantech, I'd not have minded Forma and a 3 day wait at all. Also, anyone explain how a new Grineer weapon uses a material only possessed by the Corpus? ^ i was talking to my clan earlier about that, Grineer with Corpus tech :/ kinda lore-breaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Onyx-Phalian Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 This is also frustrating for newer players who were hoping to be able and obtain a Zephyr warframe. I did the math and found I would have to go through Baal 20-30 times max to get the required amount of Oxium. Now with this change I would have to do that mission 60 times. This is a resource so rare that they can't simply remove the one good location to farm it and not expect a back lash. I seriously feel like farming Orokin Cells would be faster than Oxium and recipes usually only ask for 1 Orokin Cell, not 200 per part. I will admit, I am kind of new to the game, still trying to get the hang of some things (thankfully Metal Gear Revengence is a great teacher for the acrobatics) but I loved the concept of the Zephyr. It's really depressing when you have this all planed out, to obtain the Baal nav point and then get 600 Oxium just to have the next patch give you a right hook to the jaw and say that plan will no longer work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellcasterz Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Yeah,I doubt the change over wasnt intentional(even if it was it probably would have been reverted by now),a theory which is amplified by the fact that Corpus just outright seems to refuse to even attempt invasion of those planets. Ever since U14 rolled out and Kappa mysteriously changed ownership getting Oxium is seriously motivation breaking. The low acquisition-rates of it always were a problem but as long as those "solutions" were around it was workable. Not anymore though. You are either damned to hope for osprey spawns in high level def/survival/md(which might or might not happen)or run Baal for 8 oxium a shot(which still is faster for me than high level def/survival/md). And Im saying that as a CB player,cant even imagine how dull and outright motivation breaking that might be for new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Onyx-Phalian Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Yeah,I doubt the change over wasnt intentional(even if it was it probably would have been reverted by now),a theory which is amplified by the fact that Corpus just outright seems to refuse to even attempt invasion of those planets. Ever since U14 rolled out and Kappa mysteriously changed ownership getting Oxium is seriously motivation breaking. The low acquisition-rates of it always were a problem but as long as those "solutions" were around it was workable. Not anymore though. You are either damned to hope for osprey spawns in high level def/survival/md(which might or might not happen)or run Baal for 8 oxium a shot(which still is faster for me than high level def/survival/md). And Im saying that as a CB player,cant even imagine how dull and outright motivation breaking that might be for new players. That last sentence couldn't be more true. As I have stated before I am a new player, I did some research on most of the warframes so that I could decide on which to pick up first and which to aim for ASAP and the Zephyr was on the top of my list. I discovered that Oxium was a drop from Corpus so (since I like the bow) I rushed the Cernos as my first weapon I ever crafted. Then I aimed for Baal, doing my best to try and navigate the confusing path for me to get to Europa ASAP and now that I am pretty sure that only 1 planet stood between me and the promised land, my dreams were crushed. Also this change is something I thought they teach in Game Design 101 in the list of "What Not to Do". If your game has a resource component and you make certain resources harder to obtain than others, players WILL find the most efficient method in order to obtain said resource. You can not, and I repeat NOT simply remove the max efficiency method and think that it will fix everything. You have to compensate in some way because that "high efficiency" method may have been the source of 50% of the total amount of that resource gathered by the community, so removing it would in turn double the difficulty to gather the resource in question. I am dead serious that right now, I feel more excited whenever I am able to kill an Oxium Osprey than I am killing a planet boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis936 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 ^ i was talking to my clan earlier about that, Grineer with Corpus tech :/ kinda lore-breaking How is this lore breaking? The Grineer were the Corpus' biggest customers until very recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokubas Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I noticed Kappa had switched last time I looked, but assumed it had something to do with an invasion. This is horrible. If there was only one thing in the game that cost over a handful of Oxium, I could understand, but this will be absolutely devastating for new players. Good luck if you happen to want even one thing that requires Oxium, let alone more. I'll keep saying it, because it's true. If your players are not having fun, they'll sooner leave the game than spend on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Onyx-Phalian Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Even if we gain a new farming ground, Oxium is still difficult to obtain. You have to kill Oxium Osprey in order to get the resource, this wouldn't be so bad if they didn't try to kamikaze the instant you throw a pebble at them. Now in addition to that, they would blow up not only if they hit you but also if they hit a wall so you have to have PERFECT positioning in order to make sure it doesn't kill itself. That isn't easy when you have every other enemy in the room trying to shoot you causing you to seek cover so the Oxium Osprey would probably end up plowing right into the cover you just hid behind. THEN to add insult to injury, after you have been able to somehow kill the Oxium Osprey before it tried to make close friends with a random wall, you are rewarded with 1 Oxium. Congratulations, you're 1/600th of the way there. Seriously, they need to change this because right now anyone who didn't farm Oxium prior to the change is basically screwed. They need to either: A) Multiply the amount of Oxium dropped by x5 - x10 (better consistency to compensate for low spawn rate) B) Allow it to drop from more than Oxium Osprey (like Infected Osprey) C) Change it from a "Unit Specific" resource to a "Planet Resource" like every other resource for better consistency. D) Reduce the amount of Oxium required in recipes by at least 50% (It would still be valuable but when you get about 8 Oxium per high level run, being told you would have to do it again 74 more times is rather insulting) E) Have Oxium Osprey drop Oxium even if they Kamikaze into a wall or you (How many times have you dodged a kamikaze dive just to have it blindside a teammate behind you? It happens more than you would think.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ShapelessHorr0r Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 It almost feels like DE is starved for cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis936 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I'm almost certain oxium isn't exclusive to oxium ospreys anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balduron04 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I've been getting plenty of oxium with my clan. Our secret is Pluto Interceptions. We are getting 30+ oxium within 4 waves of the interception. The oxium from the high level drones is up to 5 per resource pickup, so good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Onyx-Phalian Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I'm almost certain oxium isn't exclusive to oxium ospreys anymore. I believe they can be obtained from canisters in Corpus missions but you have a better chance of shooting a target with a bow and arrow while blindfolded while also riding a horse than it ever dropping from those, and even if it does, it's only like 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis936 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I've gotten oxium from non corpus missions post U15. Unless I was in abuff lobby the oxium drop table has expanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuuku Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 How is this lore breaking? The Grineer were the Corpus' biggest customers until very recently. yeh, they stopped trading when they started warring... and the corpus only recently obtained Oxium, hence we recently started seeing it... so yes, lore breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis936 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 They didn't cut all trades off and begin all out war until U15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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