Xriborg Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Just wondering, at what point do your new releases look so incompetent to your customers that you are embarrassed? These major updates with new features are your chance to attract new customers, and to get old customers back in the game again. We see the notification of a fancy new update on Steam. "Oh boy! This looks cool! Let's try it out!" Then they download it, install it, and get ready to see what Warframe has to offer them. Bugs. Bugs is what Warframe has to offer them. Buggy bugs. Buggy quests. Buggy combat. Buggy new features. New bugs for old features. And ancient bugs that have been alive and thriving for over a year. It makes your development team look like an incompetent mess. Hide behind your beta label all you want, I doubt the new people trying the game are listening to that excuse when they're crashing consistently, getting stuck in the maps, dropping connections and getting locked in the menus. There has got to be a better development cycle than the 'Never-Ending Train Wreck" approach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudo-Nym Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Wrong section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escantell Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) geeze, what do you expect? they cant exactly fix every bug on launch, and they clearly fix them as soon as possible. Edited October 26, 2014 by Escantell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraShado Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Embarrassing how a Founder has no faith in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 OMG BUGS. ITS NOT LIKE NO OTHER GAME THAT HAS UPDATES HAS BUGS. Seriously, they have fixed so many bugs right now that to say this is pretty insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 if you want an awesome bad@$$ game you have to do anything for it, bugs is always a part of any beta game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron1357 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 i couldnt get past the launcher for an hour they fixed that for me and some other people im not mad because DE squahes bugs faster than any other game company ive seen so it might be you who must learn a little patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aciaj613 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 We are still in Beta, not to mention that I like how DE trusts their players to assist them with bugs. If DE were to never fix these said bugs I would have a reason to be salty but as the player base of a beta game, bugs are bound to happen. and DE trusts the community enough to help them solve their bugs. What they do is fairly simple.... They release the core-concept/content that is bound to have bugs they can't find themselves without playtesters. We play-test it and solve it for them, then they deliver a fix for what we found. Bugs are never easy to spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zavienh5 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 i mean, they do have kinda a fair amount of bugs, and also u need to farm 1st and play the waiting game for ur archwings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Have you never been around for a major update? I feel like you maybe haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zavienh5 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 We are still in Beta wait, time out, we're still in Beta? after 2 years? Kinda like the FPS Warface free to play? cuz Warface has been in Beta in like 2 yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrackingBiscuit Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Welcome to Free to Play/Open Beta. You signed up to play this game with the understanding that it was your job to smash it into the ground over and over again as hard as you could to find every little piece that breaks. And you're upset that you're finding things that break? What did you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfglaive Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I'm with Kira. Do you not understand the process at all? Their team can't possibly locate and fix every bug before release in a reasonable amount of time. The game is in open beta status, still, and these large content updates can have unexpected effects. If the bugs bother you so much, why don't you play something else when a new update comes out and wait two to four weeks so they can fix the biggest bugs? I understand that some bugs may be frustrating, but as I stated, the game is still technically in beta. Bugs are part of that, not just in Warframe. And the first week of a major launch? You're basically looking at Update (n) Alpha. I'd much rather be helping them fix these bugs by reporting them than complaining about the fact that there are bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannamancer Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 DE fixes anything that happens bug wise, instead of making a useless thread how about you log the bugs to help it go faster. Terrible thread man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex9-3-9 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 one word: beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 wait, time out, we're still in Beta? after 2 years? Kinda like the FPS Warface free to play? cuz Warface has been in Beta in like 2 yrs Why do you think this forum is called PC beta bugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xriborg Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 No. I'm sorry. I don't HAVE a job with DE. I'm not being paid money for this. I'm a customer. I paid money to DE to support this game for RELEASE, not for eternal beta bull. Maybe if we had any sort of release date. Even a year for release, I might buy that. But we don't. We haven't heard anything about that. And I doubt we ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownGunneryChief Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Just wondering, at what point do your new releases look so incompetent to your customers that you are embarrassed? These major updates with new features are your chance to attract new customers, and to get old customers back in the game again. We see the notification of a fancy new update on Steam. "Oh boy! This looks cool! Let's try it out!" Then they download it, install it, and get ready to see what Warframe has to offer them. Bugs. Bugs is what Warframe has to offer them. Buggy bugs. Buggy quests. Buggy combat. Buggy new features. New bugs for old features. And ancient bugs that have been alive and thriving for over a year. It makes your development team look like an incompetent mess. Hide behind your beta label all you want, I doubt the new people trying the game are listening to that excuse when they're crashing consistently, getting stuck in the maps, dropping connections and getting locked in the menus. There has got to be a better development cycle than the 'Never-Ending Train Wreck" approach... They would've released bug-free U15 tomorrow or on Tuesday, but some idiots wanted it on Friday, so DE released it with tons of bugs and they were forced to pull an all-nighter to fix some of the most annoying bugs ASAP. This is their fault - by their I mean the idiots who wanted U15 ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Meh, I'm okay with the releasing now and fixing bugs along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrackingBiscuit Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 No. I'm sorry. I don't HAVE a job with DE. I'm not being paid money for this. I'm a customer. I paid money to DE to support this game for RELEASE, not for eternal beta bull. Maybe if we had any sort of release date. Even a year for release, I might buy that. But we don't. We haven't heard anything about that. And I doubt we ever will. Uh, yeah. You're a volunteer. Volunteers don't get paid. I bet you don't know what crowdsourcing is, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escantell Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 And I really don't want that. If you look at the game, it has so much more undiscovered potential. By keeping it in beta, it allows DE to make so many changes, and to have a lot more freedom. This game is constantly evolving, and I LIKE that. If you don't, then too bad. I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xriborg Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Uh, yeah. You're a volunteer. Volunteers don't get paid. I bet you don't know what crowdsourcing is, either. Funny how DE's "Volunteers" are also their source of income. And yes, I know what crowdsourcing is. I don't see that word here. I see BETA, and that beta label is an excuse. Edited October 26, 2014 by Xriah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-skimmer- Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 It may not look like it but its still beta. Complain about buggy updates after they do a mega "polish everything" update and go for release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) OMG BUGS. ITS NOT LIKE NO OTHER GAME THAT HAS UPDATES HAS BUGS. Seriously, they have fixed so many bugs right now that to say this is pretty insulting. ^this, but.. not QUITE right... Seriously, they have fixed so many bugs right now that to say this is VERY insulting and VERY CHILDISH. Ah. There. Fixed it for you Erebus. Sheesh... kids these days. Funny how DE's "Volunteers" are also their source of income. And yes, I know what crowdsourcing is. I don't see that word here. I see BETA, and that beta label is an excuse. And what is your excuse? You play the game, yes? Do you ENJOY the game? If not then why do you keep playing it? I DO enjoy it and I know I am not alone. Edited October 26, 2014 by Kalenath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) (Mod? Delete plz, double post. GAH! Internet!) Edited October 26, 2014 by Kalenath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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