(PSN)MadDerpyMonkey Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I just got through reading the Limbo lore thread on tenno and came up with my own theory on how the warframes work. What if the tenno per se were more of a consciousness. The frames would act more like a host. I don't know much of the already provided lore but i could imagine this to be a viable option. To me this theory coincides with the current themes in the art with the very gigeresque organic design of the frames. The frames are not just mechanical exo suits but biomechanical weapons imbued with void magic. I heard a theory that tenno were twisted versions of humans somehow and if theory can be debunked please let me know. I just think it would make more since for the gender differences. for us tenno to control the warframes through either psychic connection or some kind mental manipulation then one man or multiple men/women changing up suits or staying in the same small ship. i also have played with the theory that when you equip a different frame that is actually like star trek teleportation going on for the poly tenno theory but that is just not as much fun to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 For the sake of gameplay, we can play whoever we want. Link to the wiki on official lore and theories: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Tenno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMobius Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 For the sake of gameplay, we can play whoever we want. Link to the wiki on official lore and theories: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Tenno Well it is now confirmed that our Tenno does indeed swap Warframes you know, as of the Limbo quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Well it is now confirmed that our Tenno does indeed swap Warframes you know, as of the Limbo quest. Disappointing... But I will continue to view my Tenno as separate characters - because I can and don't see. Though this DOES mean I need to give all my frames the same color treatment... Regardless, as to Tenno "gender" I see the different sexes of the suits as being necessary - different shapes to focus the powers in different ways, like light refracting through one pattern in a lens vs. another - and, to the Tenno, I think that switching suits would be no different than playing a male or female character in a video game. To use League of Legends as a reference: you can be playing as Darius one moment, Lux the next, and you see nothing wrong in that as reflected by your gender-identity. Edited October 27, 2014 by Morec0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull_Tumpet Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I heard a theory that tenno were twisted versions of humans somehow and if theory can be debunked please let me know. I just think it would make more since for the gender differences. for us tenno to control the warframes through either psychic connection or some kind mental manipulation then one man or multiple men/women changing up suits or staying in the same small ship. i also have played with the theory that when you equip a different frame that is actually like star trek teleportation going on for the poly tenno theory but that is just not as much fun to me. That theory comes from Ember's flavor text. It's an extract of some sort of millitary debriefing where an officer is being interrogated. Apparently the tenno were put on ships (or in the case of ember, children were put on ships) and sent into the void. Whatever came back from the void was then encased in a warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 That theory comes from Ember's flavor text. It's an extract of some sort of millitary debriefing where an officer is being interrogated. Apparently the tenno were put on ships (or in the case of ember, children were put on ships) and sent into the void. Whatever came back from the void was then encased in a warframe. Just for the sake of clarity for the less astute-readers (it even took me a beat to understand what you're saying) Skull's not saying "When they came back from the Void they had Warframes on" he's saying "What came back from the Void was then put into Warframes by the (Orokin) Military". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Disappointing... But I will continue to view my Tenno as separate characters - because I can and don't see. Though this DOES mean I need to give all my frames the same color treatment... Regardless, as to Tenno "gender" I see the different sexes of the suits as being necessary - different shapes to focus the powers in different ways, like light refracting through one pattern in a lens vs. another - and, to the Tenno, I think that switching suits would be no different than playing a male or female character in a video game. To use League of Legends as a reference: you can be playing as Darius one moment, Lux the next, and you see nothing wrong in that as reflected by your gender-identity. Yeah I'd like to think as each Tenno only ever being able to use ONE Warframe as it was built/infested/imbued around them and they cannot get out. Official lore or not, I'll choose to believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MadDerpyMonkey Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Just for the sake of clarity for the less astute-readers (it even took me a beat to understand what you're saying) Skull's not saying "When they came back from the Void they had Warframes on" he's saying "What came back from the Void was then put into Warframes by the (Orokin) Military". So by that logic, they could have found a way to capture a beings consciousness and transfer it into the warframes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lord_Gremlin Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Ugly infested goo inside of a biosuit. Yet the goo has human DNA. There. You are goo, now deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 So by that logic, they could have found a way to capture a beings consciousness and transfer it into the warframes. I don't subscribe to this "consciousness-only" theory, but the current knowledge of frames applies to that as much as it applies to their being body-full Tenno inside the suits. Yeah I'd like to think as each Tenno only ever being able to use ONE Warframe as it was built/infested/imbued around them and they cannot get out. Official lore or not, I'll choose to believe that. Official lore of not, I see no reason the player cannot say "yeah, these are all different Tenno who simply find that they are most effective in this one Warframe and so stick to it" - it's my reasoning. Kind of like how players themselves, even though they may play MANY Warframes, always have the one they like, and play, the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIDESTRE4M Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I just got through reading the Limbo lore thread on tenno and came up with my own theory on how the warframes work. What if the tenno per se were more of a consciousness. The frames would act more like a host. I don't know much of the already provided lore but i could imagine this to be a viable option. To me this theory coincides with the current themes in the art with the very gigeresque organic design of the frames. The frames are not just mechanical exo suits but biomechanical weapons imbued with void magic. I heard a theory that tenno were twisted versions of humans somehow and if theory can be debunked please let me know. I just think it would make more since for the gender differences. for us tenno to control the warframes through either psychic connection or some kind mental manipulation then one man or multiple men/women changing up suits or staying in the same small ship. i also have played with the theory that when you equip a different frame that is actually like star trek teleportation going on for the poly tenno theory but that is just not as much fun to me. You know, there are even people who believe our own bodies are just hosts and when we die. However, read the codex entry of ember. Maybe the fact that duplicate frames are allowed in a mission is a mere gameplay-thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMobius Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Official lore of not, I see no reason the player cannot say "yeah, these are all different Tenno who simply find that they are most effective in this one Warframe and so stick to it" - it's my reasoning. Kind of like how players themselves, even though they may play MANY Warframes, always have the one they like, and play, the most. As long as you can doublethink your way out of dialogue in the quests, more power to you. But I'm thankfull we can finally get fan-creations based on the actual game world rather that some LoL summoner variant that never existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMobius Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 However, read the codex entry of ember. Maybe the fact that duplicate frames are allowed in a mission is a mere gameplay-thing. Ember codex talks about one Tenno in relation to one Warframe, it confirms nothing in the general case. However ordis telling you to be more careful when occupying the Limbo Warframe does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) As long as you can doublethink your way out of dialogue in the quests, more power to you. But I'm thankfull we can finally get fan-creations based on the actual game world rather that some LoL summoner variant that never existed. Not sure if you're attempting to insult me or not here... Not like I'm violating any lore to the point of breaking it. If Tenno can be individuals then they can have favorites (that is, favorite Warframes) - sure they may be able to switch between one frame and other, like we switch between characters in a video game, but in the end we'll always have the favorite we come back to. EDIT: But yeah, glad we have a little basis to make more creations on as well - now all we need to do is shut up those "Tenno are energy" people. Ember codex talks about one Tenno in relation to one Warframe, it confirms nothing in the general case. However ordis telling you to be more careful when occupying the Limbo Warframe does. At least we can agree there. Edited October 27, 2014 by Morec0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp33chle55 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 [sarcasm] I have made up a whole new theory. What if tenno are actually energy? Vor cant get any clearer as in the tutorial. [/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Revo Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Honestly, I don't know if I am the only one that doesn't care how it happens, but I just want it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jwernecke Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Well it is now confirmed that our Tenno does indeed swap Warframes you know, as of the Limbo quest. I thought that was confirmed in the prologue? Edited October 27, 2014 by (PS4)jwernecke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lord_Gremlin Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I thought that was confirmed in the prolouge? It was confirmed earlier, but stupiditiy is strong on the Internet. They swap warframes, it's just still unclear what exactly a naked Tenno looks like. So far it seems like it's flesh with human DNA and technocyte virus infused into it, but what it looks like - no clue. Something that fits into a Nekros can't look attractive thought, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jwernecke Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 "Tenno are the devine light residing within the warframe"....seems pretty obvious to me what the tenno look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhrekr Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Official lore or not, I'll choose to believe that. This very sentence explains why we are having a debate. It also explains why the debate is depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYABU5A Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 tenno are pure energy the warframe is just a shell proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Revo Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) It was confirmed earlier, but stupiditiy is strong on the Internet. They swap warframes, it's just still unclear what exactly a naked Tenno looks like. So far it seems like it's flesh with human DNA and technocyte virus infused into it, but what it looks like - no clue. Something that fits into a Nekros can't look attractive thought, that's for sure. This may sound dumb but... Isn't it possible that if that virus touches human dna it enables shapeshifting of the flesh and bones? Look at what it did to the infested and the ancients that can extend their arms. Edited October 27, 2014 by RevoThornax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jwernecke Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 tenno are pure energy the warframe is just a shell proof Thank you I couldn't remember how the quote actually went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lord_Gremlin Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 "Tenno are the devine light residing within the warframe"....seems pretty obvious to me what the tenno look like. That's not enough to go by. There are multiple instances referring to tenno corpses torn out of warframes and getting tenno DNA. Divine light definitely resides in a lump of flesh of some description. I think the part about the light refers to the fact that corpse autopsy don't explain their powers. There's always a possibility that flesh in question is a part of warframe, fused to it courtesy of technocyte virus, and tenno is indeed just an energy creature that can "possess" that metal-clad lump of meat. That's where it's really unclear. What part moves between warframes? A body or only soul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MadDerpyMonkey Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 It was confirmed earlier, but stupiditiy is strong on the Internet. Wasn't trying to be stupid...i did say if my theory could be debunked then please do so as i do not know all the lore and was just taking a stab at what i thought might be a plausible explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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