vicwarrior Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 When opening up the syndicate tab of the Arbiters a part of what they say is "The Tenno will surpass their former masters". Now my question is: we will surpass what former masters? The orokin? Didn't they create us because they couldn't do jack S#&$ to the sentient? (Mag prime codex) Aren't we way better than the best orokin troops? Didn't we also kill the orokin for their golden loot? What former masters do we have to surpass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think they mean in Fame/Infamy, surpassing their legend, etc. Tenno are known, but they aren't revered or even in extreme circumstances considered gods like the Orokin were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampingSnake Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) They probably mean the Orokin. As in success or technology wise. The Orokin made the Tenno as weapons says the lore. And I guess the Arbiters want to break out of that as their role, and be able to do more and surpass what they were made to do. Edited October 27, 2014 by CampingSnake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Orokitteh obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angius Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Orokin were our masters, they created us, they created Void towers, they created all that stuff. We can at most reverse-engineer stuff from other factions or stuff Orokin created. But we shall surpass them. We shall craft weapons more powerful than Primes. We shall create more Tenno on our own. We shall make the Void obey us. We shall make the ghosts of Orokin fear our very name. Edited October 27, 2014 by Angius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails-san Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Probably the Orokin. We might have surpassed them in combat effectiveness, but not in standing. It's implied the Orokin had quite the impressive empire. Given that it's stated that the Arbiters reject the "Tenno as warriors" idea, they definitely are referring to something other than in combat. Edited October 27, 2014 by Tails-san Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicwarrior Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Orokin were our masters, they created us, they created Void towers, they created all that stuff. We can at most reverse-engineer stuff from other factions or stuff Orokin created. But we shall surpass them. We shall craft weapons more powerful than Primes. We shall create more Tenno on our own. We shall make the Void obey us. We shall make the ghosts of Orokin fear our very name. Yes, but didn't we already surpass them by killing them all (Stalker codex)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katakuna Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 The Orokin were a massive empire that ruled over the entire solar system. The Tenno are just soldiers. Supersoldiers, yes, but soldiers all the same. The Arbiters want to fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails-san Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yes, but didn't we already surpass them by killing them all (Stalker codex)? Just because you destroy something doesn't mean you've surpassed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angius Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Yes, but didn't we already surpass them by killing them all (Stalker codex)? But we still look up to them, do we not? We still use their technology. We still are only the Tenno that were created by them. We killed them, but not surpassed. We wiped them out, but using their technology, their weapons and ourselves. Only when we will be able to create new Tenno, to subjugate the Void, only then we will be better, than our former masters. We shall be self-sufficient, independant from their ancient technology and knowledge. And we are not emperors like Orokin were, we do not rule anything. We are still but cogs in a machine of war. Edited October 27, 2014 by Angius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicwarrior Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 The Orokin were a massive empire that ruled over the entire solar system. The Tenno are just soldiers. Supersoldiers, yes, but soldiers all the same. The Arbiters want to fix that. So the Arbiters want to turn the Tenno into a society? Can't wait to see a Tenno politician, Tenno salesmen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 So the Arbiters want to turn the Tenno into a society? Can't wait to see a Tenno politician, Tenno salesmen... Tenno farmer. Oh wait..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicwarrior Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Also something else is that the Arbiters of Hexis want to make the Tenno into something more than supersoldiers by having them excell in combat and kill many, many grineer (along with a siding of corpus, corrupted and infested). Edited October 27, 2014 by vicwarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azour Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Tenno farmer. Oh wait..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicwarrior Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Wondering how would a Tenno economy work when all they buy is weapons and fancy cosmetics to kill stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profoak0117 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Our former masters by that, i think they mean other tenno who trained us. If we join Arbiters of Hexis, we will be better than the tenno who trained us. Basically propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Revo Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Basicly... Lotus will be history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profoak0117 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Basicly... Lotus will be history. :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 To me, the Arbiters are trying to make us greater rulers than the Orokin were. They want the Tenno to become the new masters of the System. I disagree with that ideal, as well as their assertion on leaving behind/denying the warrior legacy of the Tenno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Revo Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 To me, the Arbiters are trying to make us greater rulers than the Orokin were. They want the Tenno to become the new masters of the System. I disagree with that ideal, as well as their assertion on leaving behind/denying the warrior legacy of the Tenno. Your with the red veil right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Your with the red veil right? Because the Veil actually acts to better the system in a way that is practical. They put their lives on the line, no matter who they are outside of the Veil or inside of it, to fight a bloody war to clear the corruption of the Grineer and Corpus from the system and start anew. They're actually doing something in a way that will be able to be met with results; they have the best chance of actually changing the galaxy. But now I'm hijacking this thread. I need to stop doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azour Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Because the Veil actually acts to better the system in a way that is practical. They put their lives on the line, no matter who they are outside of the Veil or inside of it, to fight a bloody war to clear the corruption of the Grineer and Corpus from the system and start anew. They're actually doing something in a way that will be able to be met with results; they have the best chance of actually changing the galaxy. But now I'm hijacking this thread. I need to stop doing that. Looks like your reputation is following you everywhere This Syndicate system is amazing, we need more explanation from the devs to make sense of all this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Looks like your reputation is following you everywhere This Syndicate system is amazing, we need more explanation from the devs to make sense of all this Hey, when you come up with a slogan as awesome as Hail the Veil... at least I didn't inject my OC into this thread like I've done in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElHefe Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hey, when you come up with a slogan as awesome as Hail the Veil... at least I didn't inject my OC into this thread like I've done in the past. But it is so inviting to lampoon it ... "Pail of Fail", "Trail of Wail", "Tale of Frail", "Nail the Jail", "Stale of Kale" (need I go on?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric1738 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 the orokin empire probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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