Turbulence.

[Daz.]

As of update 15, all abilities are added to your frame...(can be good or bad). but recently I noticed a lot of zephyrs using Turbulence.

 

This ability is basically Immortality unless using zorens or other strong melee. This power is ruining PvP for me. When sometimes a lot of energy around the map give you instant 150 energy while standing on it. its almost unstoppable to prevent them from not using it. 

 

 

NOT asking for full nerf. Just need looking into from DE and what people think about it.

Please bring PROPER feedback on this thread. 

[Renegade343]

As of update 15, all abilities are added to your frame...(can be good or bad). but recently I noticed a lot of zephyrs using Turbulence.

 

This ability is basically Immortality unless using zorens or other strong melee. This power is ruining PvP for me. When sometimes a lot of energy around the map give you instant 150 energy while standing on it. its almost unstoppable to prevent them from not using it. 

 

 

NOT asking for full nerf. Just need looking into from DE and what people think about it.

Please bring PROPER feedback on this thread. 

We could, for a rather quick start, just decrease the duration of Turbulence (although that would create the same problem with Hysteria). 

 

Another one I thought of is having pockets of Turbulence around her, meaning she can still be shot by bullets (hitscan and non-hitscan), but bullets that hit the pockets are deflected instead. The pockets will swirl around her, to provide a bit of a challenge for enemy players (and to protect herself a bit better). The radius of the pockets cannot be changed whatsoever. 

[Phoenix86]

Guess nothing u can do about it... it's human's nature.

 

It looks like the Ash blade storm spam, nothing u can really do about it.

 

Those skills were not designed for PvP, only way is to split the skill in 2, pve version, pvp version.

 

If not possible i wouldnt screw up zephyr's most important pve skill because it's unfair in pvp

Edited October 30, 2014 by Phoenix86

[Renegade343]

Those skills were not designed for PvP, only way is to split the skill in 2, pve version, pvp version.

PVE and PVP skills can be separated. This has been established quite a lot of times. 

[VYR3]

please DO NOT suggest nerfing an ability because it is unfair in PVP. 

 

make an adjustment that applies in PVP but the PVE version must be untouched.

[Phoenix86]

PVE and PVP skills can be separated. This has been established quite a lot of times. 

 

good then, they should go for it (they should do this to every skill imho)

[AbaliskInfinite]

good then, they should go for it (they should do this to every skill imho)

They already do.

 

They've done this for a long while now.  Keep Pve and pvp seperate are needless, waste of space points.

 

To OP, would a possible buff in a Tenno's resistance to Turblulence's accuracy decrease be efficient to quell the use of Turbulence?

[Renegade343]

To OP, would a possible buff in a Tenno's resistance to Turblulence's accuracy decrease be efficient to quell the use of Turbulence?

Non hit-scan weapons still really get the shaft from this (hitscan weapons may fare slightly better, but still would fail quite nicely). 

[VERT1G0]

Its only immortality against weapons with travel time *Cough*Boltor Prime*Cough* which will usually kill anything in a few shots. So don't say "Invincibility!!! Nerf now!!!" because zephyrs can't be killed with easy mode weapons. (not intentionally offending or shaming anyone here, just pointing out some facts and giving opinions)

[Rakshal]

lol I love how people still fail to relize the PvP and PvE are balanced seperatly.

Turbulence should probably get looked at since it is basiclly Hysteria but still able to use long range weapons (and also much longer than Hysteria in PvP).

[Renegade343]

Its only immortality against weapons with travel time *Cough*Boltor Prime*Cough* which will usually kill anything in a few shots. So don't say "Invincibility!!! Nerf now!!!" because zephyrs can't be killed with easy mode weapons. (not intentionally offending or shaming anyone here, just pointing out some facts and giving opinions)

I accidentally up-voted your post. Just saying. 

 

On to the main topic, Zephyr's Turbulence makes her cannot be killed with just about any ranged weapon. 

[Daz.]

Its only immortality against weapons with travel time *Cough*Boltor Prime*Cough* which will usually kill anything in a few shots. So don't say "Invincibility!!! Nerf now!!!" because zephyrs can't be killed with easy mode weapons. (not intentionally offending or shaming anyone here, just pointing out some facts and giving opinions)

You joking? READ what I said"don't want full nerf', I only want little changes. 

No weapon cannot kill her. Not only boltor prime. Hitscan cannot too.

 

next time READ what I said.

Edited October 30, 2014 by thefruitninja

[Rakshal]

Its only immortality against weapons with travel time *Cough*Boltor Prime*Cough* which will usually kill anything in a few shots. So don't say "Invincibility!!! Nerf now!!!" because zephyrs can't be killed with easy mode weapons. (not intentionally offending or shaming anyone here, just pointing out some facts and giving opinions)

Nope, you are invincible to hit scan to, I saw a player empty a full magazine from a Latron Wraith into a Zephyr and hit nothing (and don't say he missed because this was a good player shooting at a Zephyr with Turbulence sitting still). Edited October 30, 2014 by Rakshal

[.Talia.]

please DO NOT suggest nerfing an ability because it is unfair in PVP. 

 

make an adjustment that applies in PVP but the PVE version must be untouched.

 

You realize they are already separated? Not only abilities, but mods and weapons have different stats in PvP. This is PvP Feedback so obviously the OP is suggesting a PvP balance.

Edited October 30, 2014 by RexSol

[Rorgal_Sina]

Hm.. last I checked Turbulence only affected hitscan weapons within the bubble, while projectile weapons were complete deflected. I'll try to do some testing...

[Renegade343]

Hm.. last I checked Turbulence only affected hitscan weapons within the bubble, while projectile weapons were complete deflected. I'll try to do some testing...

With Power Range+ mods unlocked at the start, Zephyr could as well be a juggernaut just by walking or sprinting (or coptering) close to the shooter, then spam the Melee button for stunlock and kill. Rinse and repeat. 

 

And even at distance, Zephyr is covered quite well too. 

[Phoenix86]

You realize they are already separated? Not only abilities, but mods and weapons have different stats in PvP. This is PvP Feedback so obviously the OP is suggesting a PvP balance.

 

didnt know sorry, been away since end of U12, came back to game like 2 weeks ago

[REDHOOOD]

As of update 15, all abilities are added to your frame...(can be good or bad). but recently I noticed a lot of zephyrs using Turbulence.

 

This ability is basically Immortality unless using zorens or other strong melee. This power is ruining PvP for me. When sometimes a lot of energy around the map give you instant 150 energy while standing on it. its almost unstoppable to prevent them from not using it. 

 

 

NOT asking for full nerf. Just need looking into from DE and what people think about it.

Please bring PROPER feedback on this thread. 

 

BOOOOM! Called it!

 

To add this: Iron skin. 

 

Red

[REDHOOOD]

Its only immortality against weapons with travel time *Cough*Boltor Prime*Cough* which will usually kill anything in a few shots. So don't say "Invincibility!!! Nerf now!!!" because zephyrs can't be killed with easy mode weapons. (not intentionally offending or shaming anyone here, just pointing out some facts and giving opinions)

 

Apologies in advance for being direct, myself; but your facts are wrong. Turbulence negates all projectile weapons - and is very difficult to see when this ability is active from afar. 

 

I wouldn't argue its broken. Some visual effects to make it more obvious that the ability is active will help me greatly - maybe make it light up the same way Rhinos do when Iron-skin is active.  

 

Edit: grammar

Edited October 30, 2014 by REDHOOOD

[.Re-light.]

      If they could fix energy orbs fallen from sentinels not bugging out and basicly giving infinite energy few rounds later, most problems with people that don't play with honour (using broken abilities) would be gone.

 

     Honestly though, after first night U15 went live, I expected much worse how ever congrats to SFU, your code has been slowly conquering Europe region, and the only players that don't embrace it are the same cheap regulars who never joined a game without reflex guard.

 

    Turbulance is broken, more broken then maxed out reflex guard since "shoot them in the back" doesn't work either.

 

 

 I still get days when i get fed up and host with my lovely penta, (marelok for all fair that join) and just wait for them, wait for all of them that think being invulnerable in PvP is funny, or legitimate strategy. Penta is ultimate counter to all.

[REDHOOOD]

      If they could fix energy orbs fallen from sentinels not bugging out and basicly giving infinite energy few rounds later, most problems with people that don't play with honour (using broken abilities) would be gone.

 

     Honestly though, after first night U15 went live, I expected much worse how ever congrats to SFU, your code has been slowly conquering Europe region, and the only players that don't embrace it are the same cheap regulars who never joined a game without reflex guard.

 

    Turbulance is broken, more broken then maxed out reflex guard since "shoot them in the back" doesn't work either.

 

 

 I still get days when i get fed up and host with my lovely penta, (marelok for all fair that join) and just wait for them, wait for all of them that think being invulnerable in PvP is funny, or legitimate strategy. Penta is ultimate counter to all.

 

You sir have earned my respect. This is my approach to PvP too; but with different weapons.

 

Lets team up. 

 

Red

[.Re-light.]

  Any time Red, but you will only find me in conclaves at the moment. I am there daily, sometimes for one or two hours, sometimes for 15 minutes.

 

Hard to stay away. I can always use more conclave enthusiasts in my friends list.

 

Cheers. 

[REDHOOOD]

  Any time Red, but you will only find me in conclaves at the moment. I am there daily, sometimes for one or two hours, sometimes for 15 minutes.

 

Hard to stay away. I can always use more conclave enthusiasts in my friends list.

 

Cheers. 

 

I can add you when I am off work. However, I PvP solely in dark sectors at the moment; I am a bit under-forma-ed for conclave.