CelticMoss Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I found 9 wings now nothing of the other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkilbride Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I feel you. I'm doing Hyperion Thrusters right now. 3000+ Locust Drones. NOTHING. DE, you're KILLING ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 RNG is a fickle mistress. Honestly it isn't fair, but neither is life. If you want fair look for the Ferris wheel Alright, that was a bit too sarcastic. Anyway, that's just RNG for ya. You'll get it eventually, it's just a pain to grind for, just like everything else really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzkyl Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticMoss Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 RNG is a fickle mistress. Honestly it isn't fair, but neither is life. If you want fair look for the Ferris wheel Alright, that was a bit too sarcastic. Anyway, that's just RNG for ya. You'll get it eventually, it's just a pain to grind for, just like everything else really. RNG shouldn't pick out of 3 the same one 9 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zavienh5 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 lol i got exactly 3 of each archwing part when i did it with my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
democrator Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 It looks like I got lucky in both cases. The first three parts to drop for me were all unique and completed the archwing. I got Hyperion thrusters after killing 472 drones. I didn't get any rubedo lined barrel. So not that lucky yet. Will have to farm again tmr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 RNG shouldn't pick out of 3 the same one 9 times. Agreed, but it does, and complaining about it here really won't help. It took me quite some time to get Loki Prime, in fact I had to trade a Gleaming Talon for the last part. Such is RNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neah Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 What did you do to piss off RNG ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 RNG shouldn't pick out of 3 the same one 9 times. I don't know if "shouldn't" but it definitely "can" if the base chance is high enough. For example, if a given part has a 90% chance of dropping, there's still over 40% chance that you'll get 9 in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzkyl Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) RNG shouldn't pick out of 3 the same one 9 times. It's less that a zero % chances of it occourring 9 times in a row. If i still do math correctly. Statistically, OP is quite lucky. Edited October 31, 2014 by cozzi21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Statistically, OP is quite lucky. I wouldn't call being hit by a meteor "lucky". Edited October 31, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EChondo Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 lol i got exactly 3 of each archwing part when i did it with my friend Same here, also got Hyperion Thrusters after ~500 drones and three Rubedo barrels. RNG is going to be RNG, but it would be nice if each one gave the next part one by one. So the first is wings, then systems, then whatever else, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 i managed to get 5 wings, 1 System, and one Harness on my first attempt. rolled a few more times to see if i'd get the other parts again, testing the waters. got 3 wings before i got the System and Harness right after each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzkyl Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I wouldn't call being hit by a meteor "lucky". Well the chances of him getting the same part 9 times in a row is less than bordering 0%. I feel sorry for OP, but yet i'm amazed that something like this actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticMoss Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) It's less that a zero % chances of it occourring 9 times in a row. I i still do math correctly. Statistically, OP is quite lucky. It's like 3.7% chance if all the %'s are right. 100/3/9=3.7% rounded. which is very close to 2009 asteroid hitting chance of 2.7% Edited October 31, 2014 by SarahApple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraShado Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I guess you and your friend can recruit some Seraphim now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankHunter678 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Think about it like this OP: Each of those wing blueprints sell for 3.5k credits each. So you just got 31,500 credits from that one run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzkyl Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 It's like 3.7% chance if all the %'s are right. 100/3/9=3.7% rounded. It is? Odd perhaps my calaculations are of If only 3 items drop from the mission then assuming (because we know DE) they all have an equal drop chance. Then each has value of ~33% chance off occurring. Assmuning th events are independent of each other it would be 1-(1-P)^n 1-(1-.0.33)^9 ~0.973 where p is the chance of success, n is our number f attempts. ooh wait forgot to convert to % yup 100-97.3 Thank you for that correction my good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Well the chances of him getting the same part 9 times in a row is less than bordering 0%. I feel sorry for OP, but yet i'm amazed that something like this actually happened. It's like 3.7% chance if all the %'s are right. 100/3/9=3.7% rounded. which is very close to 2009 asteroid hitting chance of 2.7% You are both assuming the chance for all three pieces are equal, which can very well not be the case. I made a Phorid test run before, 66 kills in quick succession. I had posted the results in these forums but can't seem to find them now; in any case, the thing is that all three Nyx parts had different drop chances: approximately 50% for one, 33.3% other, and 16.7% the last one. Basically, this means there are "hard to get" pieces in this game. This effectively makes building a certain something as hard as getting the hard-to-get piece is. That is, if they apply this system to everything, which is in a way reasonable since it increases the time it takes to get the whole thing without actually starving the player of "results", even if those are irrelevant duplicates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draciusen Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 It took me 2 runs to get all the parts. The first run was pretty stupid because I only stayed for one excavation. The second run took about ~7 excavations to get the remaining parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickeltoe Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Like any update, update 15 will be really good in update 17 when the devs finally ease off on the mod drop rates and folks can start enjoying archwing. Until then it is suffer time for anyone who wants to deck out their new stuff. Even folks willing to pay tons of plat in trade cant get the mods and pieces since they are in that .067% chance drop rate DE loves to do after release of new stuff. If drop tables were still open for public scrutiny we would see that tactic with everything new. I plan to have some fun with Archwing though sometime next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydian Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The chances for the parts aren't equal. Wings are by far more common, systems seems to be rarer than the harness but I'm not sure on that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liqier Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Try to team up with other players that will help you for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamaniac Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The chances for the parts aren't equal. Wings are by far more common, systems seems to be rarer than the harness but I'm not sure on that point. Wings are definitely the most common part by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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