Orokin Catalyst And Reactors?

[SIFTGOD]

Well Ive been thinking lately, It might have been heard in the past im not sure but, I wonder why orokin catalyst and reactors cant be sold in the market. Yea I know sometimes they may pop out once in a blue moon or alert. But, I think they should be sold in market. To give new comers a chance also people who cant afford platinum. How can other players succeed in building very powerful weapons? That gives other players a disadvantage than others. I just hope others can understand. 

[legendarysidekicksteve]

Catalysts and Reactors are sold in the market for 20p. It is highly unlikely that DE will make them non-plat items.

[(PSN)thelm900]

catalysts should be farmed in the void like forma

[nickelshark]

I feel a locked thread coming.

 

Anyway, I get what you mean. And yes we can get plats through trading blah blah blah. But trading is a mess and it takes a bit for players to stock up on primed goodies. However DE needs to make money so that I get. Bottom Line, yes it sucks a bit for new players but business is business.Plus potatoes are relatively cheap in terms of plat.

[(PSN)WiiConquered]

You can get one or the other every two weeks (except this past one) when there's a Devstream. I'm almost always critical of the market--with slot availability, frame and weapon costs, resource costs, and lots of other things, but on Orokin Catalysts and Formas I think the game has a fair tradeoff between paying for convenience and supporting the developers.

[JohnProdman]

Any form of platinum generation outside of paying customers is unacceptable.

 

Daily login platinum is excluded of course, due to rarity.

[StinkyPygmy]

Forma? Does exactly what potatoes do just takes time.

Potatos are just a time saver and not essential by any means.

 

Seeing as potatos are likely one of DE's top selling items making them credit items would be a bad move.

Did I mention unnecessary? Because forma?

Edited November 4, 2014 by StinkyPygmy

[Rekkou]

If potatoes are farm able and can be bought with credits then the potatoes itself won't exist in the first place. Because potatoes are items specifically designed for the sake of generating income.

[Void.Soul]

If potatoes are farm able and can be bought with credits then the potatoes itself won't exist in the first place. Because potatoes are items specifically designed for the sake of generating income.

Exactly.

 

Don't expect DE to change potato aquisition. That would be like asking them to reduce their revenue(actually thats exactly what you are asking), dont expect them to be open to the idea.

[Ska-boo]

Potatoes and slots are among the things that will keep this game down the most. It will reject some percent of new players and spoil first impression. Keep in mind, also, that a lot newcomers wouldn't know about potato alerts and trading system, so the game will look like pure p2p for them.

 

This may stay for now, but once (or if?) game comes out of beta, they gotta get rid of it and concentrate on cosmetics and different cash-only stuff, like Prime accesses and such

[Harestation]

[...] Because potatoes are items specifically designed for the sake of generating income.

Then i've made a good choice by simply stop playing Warframe. Potatoes are so important in the game the fact they're not farmable is wrong to me. Sure you can get them with trading or with rare random alerts (that could ever last as little as 1h30), but for me it should be directly obtainable. Even if you need an intense farming, it should be possible.

There are enough way for them to get an income already, imo. But hey that's okay. Not every F2P can have a so awesome business model than Path of Exile for instance.

 

Sorry for the up btw, i just had a comment to say related to potatoes so instead of a new thread, better to use an old one. Maybe not the best one though, because i don't ask to get potatoes with credits here.

Edited January 2, 2015 by Harestation

[fadeinlight]

There are more ways to get Reactors and Catalysts than just waiting every two weeks for a Devstream:  they also show up as Invasion rewards on higher-level planets, occasional alert rewards (besides the ones associated with the Devstreams), gifts for various reasons (like the one we received during Christmas), outright giveaways (see the latest Wikia giveaway, where ~40 were raffled off for free), rewards for various events, compensation when DE feels like they've wronged us...this latest dry spell notwithstanding, you can probably expect to get, on average, about one every week if you're diligent.

 

I highly recommend players get some sort of alert app for their smartphones that will let them know when an alert has come up, and keep an eye on mission tracking websites such as deathsnacks.com.  The invasions in particular tend to end quickly--as little as forty minutes from announcement in some cases.

 

If that isn't enough, you can always farm for mods, keys, Prime components or beacons that you can sell for platinum.  In my earlier days I found Nightmare mods to be a reliable source of income, until I graduated to Corrupted Mods and Prime parts, which can earn you one or more reactors in a single drop.

 

In my opinion, keeping the price at 20 platinum is incredibly generous of DE, and I'm thankful they've done it.  With the 50 starting platinum a player is given they have an opportunity to buy two potatoes, with change to spare.  While I understand that some people don't want to have to farm for other players, the fact of the matter is that people often spend platinum to avoid having to farm themselves...so you either provide them a service in return for plat, or you continue to wait.  I have to say, farming is really the best way, though.

Edited January 2, 2015 by fadeinlight

[spaceninjaaaa]

Go anywhere in the game. On the planets, in the void, in the derelict
Find rare mods or prime blueprints
Trade them for plat

There's your free potatoes. 20p is nothing.

[InoxMaximus]

no.

[geninrising]

I have to say no to this as well.

 

Honestly it IS frustrating to not have them, however there are enough ways in game already to acquire them without paying a single dollar. If you love a weapon enough to want to potato it in the first place then you should also want to forma it right?

 

The process of farming EXP to level the weapon and various other things in your arsenal can often net you the necessary rewards to acquire the plat you need and barring those runs you can definitely earn some plat from Vault runs easily(given the proper luck, but the way RNG works in this game, everything is just luck other than killing enemies).

 

Additionally as a tip to anyone with difficulty in trading, you can change your region in order to have access to a much larger customer base and thus increase your chances of selling things. Seriously almost anything can be sold if you are willing to go cheap with your prices. 

 

Also if you are desperate for a potato or plat for WF/weapon slots remember this. Beggars can't be choosers and you might just have to swallow your pride and offer a better deal than is strictly within the bounds of fair trade to get what you want out of the transaction(ie: plat right NOW versus getting a better price later).

[Harestation]

[...] I have to say, farming is really the best way, though.

That's the problem. You can't directly farm potatoes. You've to trade for it, or all the alerts (that should last more than 40 minutes minimum btw).

 

I think all the stuff related to trading & currencies in games always bored me. So an item as important as a catalyst in this game is (without you can't barely do advanced planets & t3/t4, you do nothing with 1k5 dps), if you can't have it directly in the game without a guy who paid somewhere, i just stop playing. Not a good enough F2P for me. But that was fun for the 100h i passed on it. Just a concept i disapprove here, but it's probably not going to change.

 

About the 50 starting platinum, they are mainly for warframe slot and weapons slots. And you'll need a lot of platinum for that.

Edited January 2, 2015 by Harestation

[fadeinlight]

That's the problem. You can't directly farm potatoes. You've to trade for it, or all the alerts (that should last more than 40 minutes minimum btw).

 

I think all the stuff related to trading & currencies in games always bored me. So an item as important as a catalyst in this game is (without you can't barely do advanced planets & t3/t4, you do nothing with 1k5 dps), if you can't have it directly in the game without a guy who paid somewhere, i just stop playing. Not a good enough F2P for me. But that was fun for the 100h i passed on it. Just a concept i disapprove here, but it's probably not going to change.

 

About the 50 starting platinum, they are mainly for warframe slot and weapons slots. And you'll need a lot of platinum for that.

DE has to pay their employees just like anybody else.  I don't know how much charity work you do, but if you aren't full time then I'd suggest you lower your standards a bit on the F2P games.

 

I played Path of Exile, and I stopped pretty quickly due to it not being up to the standards I've come to expect in an mmorpg.  The graphics (at the time) looked like they were taken straight off of an Amiga.  This game, on the other hand, is well within the range of comparable over-the-shoulder shooters.  I was actually shocked when I saw it being played for the first time, because I already knew it was free and I'd assumed it was going to be some garbage.

 

I suppose DE could throw up a few advertisements for "Space McDonalds" every once in awhile, or maybe have us fill out a few surveys and donate blood...but instead, they give us a (near) weekly chance at getting items that aren't necessary to play the game (just necessary to play it at the highest levels), or let us buy it via platinum we can earn within a few hours of dedicated farming. 

 

Considering how many man-hours have gone into the construction of this game, I'd say they're being pretty damned generous...and to hear people say otherwise (when it comes to the Reactors and Catalysts, at least), it comes off as being a little bit spoiled, imo.  If you can't put in three hours to farm, why should they dedicate tens of thousands of hours into making a game for you?  Don't you think they deserve a little more incentive than your happiness?

 

I am by no means rich...but even without a coupon, 20 platinum translates to about $1.33 if you buy the lowest amount, barely enough to buy a pack of gum.

 

I'm sorry that you're "bored" by the stuff relating to currencies and trade.  I'm "bored" by the fact that I have to give anything in order to get anything.  I often wonder "why are people so damned selfish that they won't just give me what I want for free?"  When you can appreciate the irony in that statement, maybe you'll come to appreciate this game enough to give it a second look.  Until then, have fun :)

[PookieNumnums]

all they need to do is that a small video or an animation from the Lotus that says hey to know I know you just woke up but I highly recommend spending your starter platinum on an Oregon catalyst in Oregon reactor here's why doubt settle it that'll get them through long enough to actually last long enough to rank up to trade and make plat to continue onwards. Bear in mind that for a long time there was no trading and orokin stuff wasn't as common excluding gradivus

[CaveCricket48]

Forma? Does exactly what potatoes do just takes time.

Potatos are just a time saver and not essential by any means.

 

Seeing as potatos are likely one of DE's top selling items making them credit items would be a bad move.

Did I mention unnecessary? Because forma?

 

A non-potato'd, 8 forma'd weapon won't be able to fit the mods that a potato'd+forma'd weapon can.

[OneMember]

We so need more alerst for catalyst/reactor as haven't seen one in a loooong time.

[Vadrigos]

Moderator, please lock this thread. This person does not know what he's talking about.

[SquidTheSid]

Moderator, please lock this thread. This person does not know what he's talking about.

 

Anyway, I think a fair solution would to let the blueprints drop in the Void, like Forma. That way, you could get a reliable supply of potatoes if you're patient. Nothing says that DE can't still sell potatoes for plat (you'd still be saving a lot of time).

Edited January 3, 2015 by SquidTheSid

[UltimateSpinDash]

Then i've made a good choice by simply stop playing Warframe. Potatoes are so important in the game the fact they're not farmable is wrong to me. Sure you can get them with trading or with rare random alerts (that could ever last as little as 1h30), but for me it should be directly obtainable. Even if you need an intense farming, it should be possible.

There are enough way for them to get an income already, imo. But hey that's okay. Not every F2P can have a so awesome business model than Path of Exile for instance.

 

Sorry for the up btw, i just had a comment to say related to potatoes so instead of a new thread, better to use an old one. Maybe not the best one though, because i don't ask to get potatoes with credits here.

 

You don't have to put a potato on EVERYTHING you know. Put it on stuff that you like.

Also, wasn't Path of Exile made by a few gamers who wanted a dark Diablo-style game? I don't think there is a company behind it.

[IfritKajiTora]

When I started to play Warframe UP6-8 I don't remember Orokin Catalyst and Reactors where around 2 per 2 weeks so it wasn't that hard to get, but now they are Rare as hell, waiting even Month for one Catalyst or Reactor.

[UltimateSpinDash]

When I started to play Warframe UP6-8 I don't remember Orokin Catalyst and Reactors where around 2 per 2 weeks so it wasn't that hard to get, but now they are Rare as hell, waiting even Month for one Catalyst or Reactor.

Devstreams are every two weeks, although they took a break due to christmas. They also gave out a completed catalyst on christmas for logging in.

 

I suspect the devstreams will begin either this or next week.