Tsukinoki Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) @Phoenix86With the right builds the Supra, Gorgon, and especially Gorgon Wraith, are decently powerful.The Supra can approach 20K burst dps, 12K sustained.Thats with punch-through, good fire rate.The Gorgon can approach 18.5K burst dps, 9.5K sustained.Only a 14.62% status change, but with how many bullets you fire that is going to proc quite often.The Gorgon Wraith can get a 12.2K burst dps, and 12.4K sustained.Thats with a 40.42% status chance, meaning that your proccing all day.Give any of those unlimited ammo without any *large* drawbacks and they become too powerful compared to other weapons.We would either need:A) MUCH higher recoil and MUCH lower accuracy.Even with a maxed Heavy Caliber the guns are decently accurate in most encounter ranges in WF.B) Lower damage.If it had *low* damage, and not 'mediocre' as you refer to it, then it might not be too powerful with infinite ammoC) *Very* low ammo regen.As to the point that its impractical to use it as often as you can currently having to rely on ammo drops.If it regenned ammo anywhere near as fast as the imperator does, they would definitely be OP because you would pretty much never have to stop firing. Edited November 4, 2014 by Tsukinoki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Right. Have unlimited ammo. So you can sit in a corner forever. You'll never need to find pickups. You'll never need to use other weapons. Nobody will ever need other weapons anyway because unlimited ammo ones will be superior. Archwing has unlimited regenerating ammo because of how it is designed. Pickups WOULD NOT WORK given the speed and scale of the mode. It's a crap idea and is the reason limited ammunition is a thing. oh come on... you'll never sit in a corner forever... you'll go around for: resources/mods/affinity/credits/health globes/energy gloves and once the weapon's ammo drops to 0 u'll need it to refill and maybe u are getting swarmed and u'll need ur secondary ready you'll surely need other weapons for harder contents because both those weapons past lvl 50 do not pump enough DPS, they have crap accuracy past 20m, even more if u use HCal. and, all in all: did u ever ran out of ammos? i personally not (well maybe except with twin vipers and such) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 @Phoenix86 -snip- DPS are inflated by accuracy and player's skill, paper DPS arent everything and btw you havent an infinite clip... you got 90 bullets (around 5 seconds non-stop fire) then u gotta wait a second for it to start refilling and, arguably 3 seconds, to a full refill (which is, in the end, the same time u spend reloading manually them right now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidsteel Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Supra ammo is unlimited. Each shot drains X point(s) from your shields/health. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 and, all in all: did u ever ran out of ammos? i personally not (well maybe except with twin vipers and such) Yes. Frequently, in survival mostly. My main weapons are the vectis and the nukor and heavy use of both chews through ammo faster than it drops. Supra ammo is unlimited. Each shot drains X point(s) from your shields/health. Simples. Makes it an extreme hindrance in anything larger than a small skirmish Can't kill enemies with it cos they'll kill you cos you shot at them etc. Makes it useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Makes it an extreme hindrance in anything larger than a small skirmish Can't kill enemies with it cos they'll kill you cos you shot at them etc. Makes it useless agree, mmh i've never ran out of ammos, especially with snipers, even in 60mins survival runs. whatever, cant really argue with personal experiences, those are too subjective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidsteel Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Makes it an extreme hindrance in anything larger than a small skirmish Can't kill enemies with it cos they'll kill you cos you shot at them etc. Makes it useless Just means you're forced to run with some form of regenerator - which replaces ammo. And you're telling me 1 tick on your shield per shot makes it useless? I'd recommend getting closer to your targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'd be interested in them trying it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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