BelieverZ Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Anyone else think we should have some indication to who is the host? Like a Gold name? or some symbol next to their name to show who the host is? With host migrations happening and losing some of your bonus exp and rewards, shouldn't we have the option to leave with the host so we don't risk losing everything. (See when the host is leaving) In most if not all MMO's we can clearly see who the party leader is? So, why can't we have the same to identify who the host is? I recently lost some rewards in a archwing interception as my previous round rewards was lost after the host left including less bonus exp. I would happily leave when the host leaves as i won't lose the bonus exp/rewards or mission failing because of failed host migration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajule Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 yes, I would like that so I know who to berate when I'm getting lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfectStranger Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) it's RNG...too. Edited November 4, 2014 by perfectStranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryp2Nite Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 That has been suggested for a long time, still nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennoninjahunter Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Anyone else think we should have some indication to who is the host? Like a Gold name? or some symbol next to their name to show who the host is? With host migrations happening and losing some of your bonus exp and rewards, shouldn't we have the option to leave with the host so we don't risk losing everything. (See when the host is leaving) In most if not all MMO's we can clearly see who the party leader is? So, why can't we have the same to identify who the host is? I recently lost some rewards in a archwing interception as my previous round rewards was lost after the host left including less bonus exp. I would happily leave when the host leaves as i won't lose the bonus exp/rewards or mission failing because of failed host migration. i think the real solution here is to fix the bug that drops our rewards and some exp during the host migration, but we could use a indication of host in the mean time ( fixing it could be weeks or months,who knws) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Some indicator would be awesome. I mean if you see the host leaving a defense/interception mission you should go with them. +1 for you OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kachocalvo Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) it's RNG...too. Not really. But sometimes uses a weird system to choose. Anyway, it's a good idea. Right now, only indication is that every mission I have played this last month, only the host could skip the second intro to the mission (the deploying, not the lisets one). Edited November 4, 2014 by Kachocalvo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Agreed entirely. I can understand not giving a Ping display (or even a "bar" indicator) since both of those can deter players from joining or playing through missions, but I can't exactly find any reason to not indicate who the host is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftMeat Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 That has been suggested for a long time, still nothing... This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_Brick Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 yes, I would like that so I know who to berate when I'm getting lag. How is it the host's fault? Do you think he/she is choosing to make it laggy? Do you think he/she chose to bring you into his/her session? Do you think he/she chose to be host? The answer to all questions except the first is "No.". Unless you're joking and i'm completely missing the point, you should be ashamed for actually doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 How is it the host's fault? Do you think he/she is choosing to make it laggy? Do you think he/she chose to bring you into his/her session? Do you think he/she chose to be host? The answer to all questions except the first is "No.". Unless you're joking and i'm completely missing the point, you should be ashamed for actually doing that. Pretty sure he's joking and you're completely missing the point. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfectStranger Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Not really. But sometimes uses a weird system to choose. Anyway, it's a good idea. Right now, only incation is that every mission I have played this last month, only the host could skip the second intro to the mission (the deploying, not the lisets one). ...forgot the "/sarcasm off" end line .) Edited November 4, 2014 by perfectStranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inversus Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 This would be good, they also mentioned the possibility of the game choosing the lowest lag host rather than the one that joined first/created the group - I would really like this. A lot of the time playing missions (e.g. void) I, and my whole team, find the game unplayable due to low ping - I and others in the team on the other hand would have made suitable hosts if the game had chosen them. This usually leads to the host dc'ing and the game ending... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egregiousRac Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 This would be good, they also mentioned the possibility of the game choosing the lowest lag host rather than the one that joined first/created the group - I would really like this. A lot of the time playing missions (e.g. void) I, and my whole team, find the game unplayable due to low ping - I and others in the team on the other hand would have made suitable hosts if the game had chosen them. This usually leads to the host dc'ing and the game ending... It tries to do that currently, it is just really bad at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kachocalvo Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) This would be good, they also mentioned the possibility of the game choosing the lowest lag host rather than the one that joined first/created the group - I would really like this. A lot of the time playing missions (e.g. void) I, and my whole team, find the game unplayable due to low ping - I and others in the team on the other hand would have made suitable hosts if the game had chosen them. This usually leads to the host dc'ing and the game ending... The game already do that (no matter who forms the squad in my clan, I almost always end as host). But only if you all enter the mission at the same time. Once the mission has started, host is fixed to prevent host migrations whenever a new player joins in. And it do not always works right. Edited November 4, 2014 by Kachocalvo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inversus Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 It tries to do that currently, it is just really bad at it. People said it does this in missions that I asked and some said yes, so I almost added in 'I'm not sure whether this feature is in already...' but yeah, then, it really does not work right yet. They also mentioned an option (pretty certain this one at least isn't in yet...) to opt-out of hosting, which would help players with worse connections since often, as you say, it really doesnt work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelieverZ Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 That has been suggested for a long time, still nothing... I really hope they do add a indication to who the host is, or atleast fix the rewards being lost doubt it will happen dueto connectivity issues. But I would leave the game if i saw the host exiting so i don't risk losing my rewards earned during that mission (defense/interception) Maybe with more awareness they'll add this to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiegraf Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Before the mission starts, the best host is (usually) selected for the group to play with. However, if you start a mission with a few slots open, then only one of those in the seat when the missions starts will get host and late comers will likely be all over the place in term of connection quality. But yeah, we'd need a ping display at least. No 'cell bar' thing, an actual, numerical ping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kachocalvo Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 ...forgot the "/sarcasm off" end line .) My fault. But is amazing how many people write that kind of things with no sarcasm in mind :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Atroxium Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 A little crown next to the player should be. Best Answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryp2Nite Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 It tries to do that currently, it is just really bad at it. The system determine the host by a simple latency measurement at the lobby. Which is mostly insignificant. A good host needs at least a upstream bandwidth of 1 Mbit/s (~100 kB/s). At least for missions like Survival, Defense and Mobile Defense... It doesn't matter if the idle ping is 50 ms or 500 ms - as soon as the game is under load and the net code is trying to shove 1 Mbit/s through the 0.1 Mbit/s line, the host/client latency skyrocket into the thousands to the point where the connection drops. This is why the max ping settings in the options is almost useless. It only works if you join a running game under load. The really sad thing about this is: I highly doubt there is a 1:3 (host:clients) ratio of people with connections >1 Mbit/s and people with connections <1 Mbit/s. That means there will always be heavy lag in public matches, as long as the current upload requirements aren't changed. We really need a better system to choose (and display) the host - to counter that a bit. That is the least thing DE should implement, if they aren't able to optimize the net code by a large portion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelieverZ Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Just curious? How do hot topics become the community discussions? As in, staff take a look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSpite Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Dedicated Servers. For Plat. 1 Plat allows you to host 5 games, saves all your progress, no migration problem, and allows any dropped player to reconnect by waiting at the end of a wave, by pausing the game, if everyone agrees. Then we can add Gold Tier Dedicated hosting. Which costs human blood. God Tier hosting requires a human Soul. But not necessarily yours (NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK) ... anyway, It would make more sense to eventually have a system that migrates sessions better then to add kludges like "color the host", since they can just yank a cord out and nothing will save the game anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone154769 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I feel bad for anyone joining my games, I bet you lag like a mother.If there was a setting to never host, I'd flip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphyx Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Probably belongs in feedback rather than general but yes, I'd like to know who the heck is running on dial-up still so I can avoid joining their games in the future. Would also be fantastic if, as the host, you can manually change the host with a slash command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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