IfritKajiTora Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Today I saw this: http://i.imgur.com/pzq8LCi.jpg SCINDO VS GRAMSCINDO and GRAM have this same damageGram have 15% status chance Scindo have 10%Gram 200% critical multiplier, Scindo 150% critical Multiplierand Gram have attack speed 1.0 , Scindo Have 0.9 attack speedEverything else is the sameAnd these two weapons are RANK2 so ofcourse GRAM WINS! Why I would like to get Scindo while Gram have everything better than Scindo?GRAM have 3 better things than SCINDO and SCINDO have nothing better than GRAM. THE HEK IS THIS?!It tooked so long time to enter a numbers into the heavy meele weapons so I though Devs are balancing, so it so OK, but NO not balanced. Pleasy balance it more.If Scindo is slower than gram, then Scindo should get little more damage. And something else better than Gram. Edited November 7, 2014 by IfritKajiTora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevar22g Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 because diversity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromeos-Prime Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 In any game with hundreds of weapons, there will be weapons that are bound to be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Can anyone say Manticore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 And OP is the reason why people should use what they like, not what has highest numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrumitsumi Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) why would every weapon have the same stats? And OP is the reason why people should use what they like, not what has highest numbers. all of my this^ Edited November 7, 2014 by Kurrumitsumi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviantis Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 So....go get a scindo prime if you care so much about stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 So....go get a scindo prime if you care so much about stats? I know than Scindo Prime is better. But these are just stupid numbers and they could not even calculate that for balance? seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 why would every weapon have the same stats? all of my this^ I'm not talking about the same stats. I don't want to Scindo get the same stats so what are you even talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Can anyone say Manticore? Slightly better damage but slowing down Scindo too much -_-. And even it is stupid that you need to have skin to be balanced weapom compared to other heavy. And Manticore makes Scindo more worst. I would like to use Manticore skin without changing stats. Edited November 7, 2014 by IfritKajiTora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) because diversity? I don't know what to write, because this is one of the stupid answers. Oh I got it. Diversity is when weapons are balanced and you need to chose which one will be better for you. NOT because of having everything better. it have no sense to chose the worse weapon. Edited November 7, 2014 by IfritKajiTora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Why have any weapon if it's not the best weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyEnneract Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Well in the case of Reaper Prime and Hate, the same weapon types, all the stats are the same except that RP has .2 more attack speed, and a 6 meter slam. While Hate only has 5% more status chance. Sometimes I feel that DE doesn't even pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Why have any weapon if it's not the best weapon? For someone it can be the best weapon for some not. Fang Prime are the fastest meele weapons in the game but short swings distance Dragon Nikana have good damage and its preety fast Orthos Prime have long distance Slide attack decent damage and its faster than Dragon Nikana Dual Ichors have the best Critical chance and damage of all weapons but damage is little weaker and distance of attack is shorter Bo Prime preety fast, damage good, distance medium I really don't know which one of this weapons is better because I think these weapons are balanced. Have them and love them all, use them randomly. Edited November 7, 2014 by IfritKajiTora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 For someone it can be the best weapon for some not. Fang Prime are the fastest meele weapons in the game but short swings distance Dragon Nikana have good damage and its preety fast Orthos Prime have long distance Slide attack decent damage and its faster than Dragon Nikana Dual Ichors have the best Critical chance and damage of all weapons but damage is little weaker and distance of attack is shorter Bo Prime preety fast, damage good, distance medium And why do you bother having anything but those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyEnneract Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 And why do you bother having anything but those? I see that you keep asking questions because you have no valid argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I see that you keep asking questions because you have no valid argument. Yeah people always do like that. Or write that you need to learn english -_-, because they don't have their own good arguments and don't know what to write. Edited November 8, 2014 by IfritKajiTora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdart Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Some people prefer weapons for their looks. It's silly to me as well, but they do. Not a lot of people may like the Gram look, but loves the Scindo look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarlockk Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I answer in simple way: "Mastery Food" Scindo Prime and Galatine for the top tier heavy melee. Happy OP now? Mastery throw away get 1 of those. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis936 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 GRAM have 3 better things than SCINDO Here's where you're wrong. The Gram has 4 better things than the Scindo. It flat out looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaTails Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I see that you keep asking questions because you have no valid argument. *eyeroll* They're making the point that you should use what you like, not whatever has 1 more attack point than something else. Even if it is just a knee jerk reaction to how spazzy the OP sounds, it's a great point considering enemies die in one hit anyway, no matter what you use. The OP is making the point that weapons shouldn't be so similar, or have marginal direct upgrades, which is... arguable lol Some people prefer weapons for their looks. It's silly to me as well, but they do. Dual Ichors look like turds, so I never use them. I dont like swinging turds, I don't know, YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dualstar Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 And OP is the reason why people should use what they like, not what has highest numbers. But people like the highest numbers. I dont know what to think anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyEnneract Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 *eyeroll* They're making the point that you should use what you like, not whatever has 1 more attack point than something else. Even if it is just a knee jerk reaction to how spazzy the OP sounds, it's a great point considering enemies die in one hit anyway, no matter what you use. The OP is making the point that weapons shouldn't be so similar, or have marginal direct upgrades, which is... arguable lol Dual Ichors look like turds, so I never use them. I dont like swinging turds, I don't know, YMMV. As far as Melee go, I don't see enemies dying in one hit anywhere past level 30. People in this thread also don't seem to know what variety actually means: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/variety?s=t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaTails Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 As far as Melee go, I don't see enemies dying in one hit anywhere past level 30. Then you're doing it wrong. *arrogant sniff* rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazeth Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Why hate the buff? Without it, people wouldn't even consider using the weapon before. Now we can see some people using the weapons. Hate using the Gram over Scindo? Use the Scindo. Hate people using Gram over Scindo? Why? Hate that the Gram is better than the Scindo? We can see the same thing happening for Swords, Dual Swords, etc., and I see no one else b*tching about that. :l Find that it's illogical that the Scindo is weaker? Look at the Halikar, or Daggers, or etc. Warframe is full of irregularities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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