Tacritan Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 well.. Now we have to grind Months to achieve ,, endgame '' syndicates... Thats what they call endgame - more grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zavienh5 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 the nerfs :'( or :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paplo Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) wow :( Edited November 13, 2014 by paplo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkamiMilo Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 why the change in nyx is totally unnecessary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGDM Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Really not liking all of these line of sight changes. For some abilities it makes sense, for others it is ridiculous. Explosions and wavelengths don't just stop because something is in a way, they just struggle to get past them. And because of all the fast-paced movement in Warframe you will more than likely encounter enemies behind walls/objects quite often as you blitz room to room. Reduce the range upon hitting line of sight, don't completely stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clats01 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/52117710372033878/51F5107084658016975B919B6CF79E5D16E722A9/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasumi- Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Warframe Changes: Enemies targeted by Nyx’s Mind Control no longer take friendly damage until the duration of the ability ends, at which point all accumulated damage to the target is applied at once. Vauban’s Tesla beam from the Tesla Link Mod has received an improved visual effect to reduce visual clutter when cast multiple times and Vauban’s Tesla beam from the Tesla Link Mod should now properly deal Slash damage. Excalibur’s Radial Javelin and Mag’s Shield Polarize will now check for line of sight when targeting enemies. Trinity’s Energy Vampire now only benefits teammates who can see or can be seen by the targeted victim (victims remember who they have seen for a short duration). Banish / Rift Walk will no longer stack energy regeneration when used on targets in a Cataclysm bubble. Line of sight in another bad way. Shield polarize=useless. Radial javelin=useless. Energy Vampire=Useless and now so is Trinity. I've never sold a Warframe (except to replace it with its Prime version), but it's time to sell Trinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagrax Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 So, why are there no refinements to the whole ROOT of the viver problem, which is the stupid grind for syndicates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fait Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) So instead of fixing something you nerf warframes as a scape goat towards the failure. K. Edited November 13, 2014 by Fait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruchtpudding Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Kneejerk reactions around real problems that are not adressed and repeatedly ignored. Letting the entire rest of the game suffer because you can't admit to having made mistakes. Very little thought went into these changes. Rooms were never designed with LoS in mind, abilities weren't either. To me as a paying player it is extremely disappointing that you as paid professionals can't come up with better solutions to obvious problems. EDIT: Also did you not just change Radial Javelin to be less affected by line of sight to allow for better targeting? Ah, found it: Radial Javelin: All enemies within radius of this ability will now be hit with a javelin. Instead of having this ability radiate out from Excalibur, javelins will now spawn directly around opponents. Javelins will optimize to find a point on each enemy that is safe to be hit, bypassing enemies that may be holding shields or otherwise in cover. There is also no longer a target maximum for this ultimate, meaning anyone in the radius will be an eligible target. Additionally, if the javelin does not kill the enemy, each target that survives will be put into stun for a brief period of time.Going back on that after announcing what a great change it was. Another example of pure reactionary 'balancing' in an attempt to solve a problem that lies much deeper that you are admitting to see. Edited November 13, 2014 by Fruchtpudding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEEBOSS Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 We knew the nerf was coming and it is just what i thought. Added line of sight to Mag and Excaliber. Thanks. Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blayden275 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 What about john prodman? he's too op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xingyuasong Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Instead of fixing viver and/or the rep system You nerf 4 warframes Good job DE Good job.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFOLoche Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Trinity’s Energy Vampire now only benefits teammates who can see or can be seen by the targeted victim (victims remember who they have seen for a short duration). Man, I like how the only time Trinity gets any attention is when she gets nerfed. Seriously? Edit:No, I can't just let this go, you guys are nerfing frames over ONE NODE. One of, what, 200? Yes, the node was easily exploited, but this is NOT going to fix anything, it's going to make things slightly more complicated when there are plenty, PLENTY of other, better ways to fix this than just bashing poor Trinity's head into the ground. Edited November 13, 2014 by UFOLoche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDACTED Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Excalibur’s Radial Javelin and Mag’s Shield Polarize will now check for line of sight when targeting enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifted Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Get Rekt, Viver. Nice patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephalonShy Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 So trinity got nerfed to hell and excal is now basicaly garbage tier. Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shehriazad Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Aaaaaaand Excalibur is S#&$ again. Thanks for nothing. Why do you always give Excalibur a buff that lasts for 1-2 weeks and then nerf him beyond recognition. That his blades were now basically auto seeking targets was his one cool feature. The stealth jump is buggy and useless, sword dash is inferior to every other skill and blind already checks line of sight. Sheesh DE.....It's not like Excalibur has some crazy strong imba scaling damage abilities....remove line of sight check for his ult.Furthermore you gave Nyx a buff...a frame that already has a S#&$ ton of goodies. DE seriously...can you stop touching things that aren't broken? I guess Exca Prime can be shelved again...after all he's now once again just a normal shooter character again with his skills all being generic, weak, and blocked by all obstables. Edited November 13, 2014 by Shehriazad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LethalRayne Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The rep system is what needs to be fixed not Viver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaKai Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Awesome fixes :D Shame Excalibur got a nerf after it got a buff. Then again, line of sight doesn't really affect it comparing it back to old javelin, so I'm not butt hurt. Time to swim in the tears of Viver grinders Edited November 13, 2014 by DeltaKai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--PyralisTT Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 yay excal is useless once again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorsContraction Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Great changes for Nyx <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackShield Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 dont get it why for shield polarize you need to see the enmy or the enmy need to see you ._. same about radial javeil you change it again back to his old still btu with new animation D: i dont like that same for energy vamp never saw a energy wave or wave in generell only hits targets it can see of a wave can see ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNonApplicable Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Hahaha, oh man, more trinity nerfs. Goddamn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halser Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 better buy those affinity boosts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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