Twilight053 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) I just read the update today and, sorry to say: Wow, really? Really? You just made a restorative ability check for LoS? You mean I have to look at ugly Hek everytime to heal myself? Look, we know you want to nerf our farm, but you don't do it by breaking abilities like this. Shield Polarize isn't just an offensive ability, it's also a support ability. And a support ability doesn't deserve this kind of nerf. Please, at least make us able to restore our shields freely. Edited November 13, 2014 by Twilight053 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Agree completely. i would like to see a response about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-IX Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 But you are able to restore your shields, you just have too see them, through i don't know why they did it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tveoh Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 sounds like a bug if you can't even restore you own shields, without being in LoS of an enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhenbarn Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Don't worry guys ; giving the storm this update gave birth to, DE wil have no choice but answering us sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Don't worry guys ; giving the storm this update gave birth to, DE wil have no choice but answering us sooner than later. "We feel like we're doing the right thing and this change we've done is to remove the unintentional exploits, and the LoS mechanic will be looked into further to make it suitable in Warframe and acceptable by the players." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhenbarn Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 "We feel like we're doing the right thing and this change we've done is to remove the unintentional exploits, and the LoS mechanic will be looked into further to make it suitable in Warframe and acceptable by the players." Where does this come from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Where does this come from ? Naw, I'm just randomly quoting what they are likely to say if they try to defend the nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuangZilong Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Naw, I'm just randomly quoting what they are likely to say if they try to defend the nerfs. I believe you mean when they defend it. If they don't defend it then they will look mildly incompetent, essentially admitting they messed up bad. If they do defend it... well I'm sure other video games have had worse PR moments, but not by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelSD Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 They had every change to make it right in the case of the Excalibur. Check out the vote in hot topics! It was obvious that the majority was not happy with the changes. They even accidentally once put the RB nerf in and they saw the outrage. Yet, they implemented it. So no, they ARE self-righteous and I do not expect a reasonable explanation, because franly, I do not think they have one. Nor for Excalibur nor for Mag, or Trinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 sounds like a bug if you can't even restore you own shields, without being in LoS of an enemy. It's probably because you're not in LoS with yourself. I'm serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Shield Polarize requires you to be in LoS with an enemy to work? That doesn't sound right at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I believe you mean when they defend it. If they don't defend it then they will look mildly incompetent, essentially admitting they messed up bad. If they do defend it... well I'm sure other video games have had worse PR moments, but not by much. I can name far, far worse (and well-known) PR moments in the history of video games. The backlash from this update is just the playerbase finally waking up to how haphazard and uncertain DE is when it comes to fixing problems in their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Shield Polarize requires you to be in LoS with an enemy to work? That doesn't sound right at all. As of yesterday it does. This is to prevent Mags on Viver from making the entire map go boom by pressing 2 over and over in the center. I'm fine with LoS changes on certain abilities, but not the ones changed today. What needed to be addressed were the Corrupted mods that let Mag use this strategy in the first place, among other things that Corrupted mods allow players to do. Syndicate farming itself needs an overhaul as well. Edited November 13, 2014 by Noble_Cactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 As of yesterday it does. This is to prevent Mags on Viver from making the entire map go boom by pressing 2 over and over in the center. I'm fine with LoS changes on certain abilities, but not the ones changed today. What needed to be addressed were the Corrupted mods that let Mag use this strategy in the first place, among other things that Corrupted mods allow players to do. Syndicate farming itself needs an overhaul as well. Sorry, I meant specifically it seems strange that the Shield restoration part of the skill requires an enemy to be in your LoS. I can understand the damage part (although I don't agree with it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaumatos Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 This wasn't meant to be intelligent. I have a feeling 15.2.0 was meant to be an immediate stop while they find a better way of fixing things. I choose to believe that DE isn't that stupid...but if it turns out I'm wrong, I'm done with DE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockscl Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 more skill needed no stay alive, great, i like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onida_a Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) This wasn't meant to be intelligent. I have a feeling 15.2.0 was meant to be an immediate stop while they find a better way of fixing things. I choose to believe that DE isn't that stupid...but if it turns out I'm wrong, I'm done with DE... <angry about Excal changes> I know, how about you decrese the spawn rate of enemies on Viver to match other interception spawn rates or is this an intelligent move that DE was staying away from? </angry about Excal changes> Viver runs had to be changed since it "broke" the game. Edited November 13, 2014 by Onida_a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Trinity nerf is worse. Triny only provided support. Now she only provides support if people look at the enemy she is looking at. Thsi requres absurd ammount of coordination, making trinity almost unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight053 Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Bumpity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's probably because you're not in LoS with yourself. I'm serious. "Tenno, you know, we may not always see eye to eye... well, you don't have eyes but I'm pleased we've found common ground in our fight with these Grineer dogs." - Salad V Alad knows what's up. And it is implied by some that inside the Warframe are actually energies :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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