Grimm Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl_Facehugger Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 This looks to be correct as per Build Notes: Find Mutalist Beacons through Infestation Outbreak rewards. Currently have eyes glued to new Outbreaks, as that's where they can be expected (as a reward like Fieldron/Detonite/etc is now). I hope these outbreaks have a lot of health? Otherwise we might end up with a situation similar to what happens when potatos are offered for invasions - The conflict is over in minutes as thousands upon thousands of Tenno locusts descend upon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartin Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) These Beacon Reward Outbreaks are going to need to Health the size of Normal Invasion missions (probably more). Or it won't actually be possible to get Mesa in good time at all. Also, there should probably be a more consistent way of getting the beacons. Maybe Eris Missions or something. Edit: Seems like it's got a ton of health. Edited November 28, 2014 by Spartin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylia Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I miss the days when bosses were on nodes, without needing keys for this, keys for that. Having to farm yet more keys is just "bleh". Can't say I like this decision, to be honest. I'd rather we expand the star map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydexon Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) This looks to be correct as per Build Notes: Find Mutalist Beacons through Infestation Outbreak rewards. Currently have eyes glued to new Outbreaks, as that's where they can be expected (as a reward like Fieldron/Detonite/etc is now). I hope to get an platinum discount in the login rewards, because i gonna purchase her instead, i'm really, really TIRED to grinding to the depths of the hell, i NEVER know which those invasions has reactor/catalyst rewards, to get Vauban i had to wait like months to get it via alerts, Vay Hek keys is another thing...... (PS about the event: i hoped for an event weapon and all i gonna get is an useless skin, what a disappointment). Edited November 28, 2014 by hydexon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7grims Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Everyone is stating its on invasions, and yet they have not got one single mutalist nav. this is starting to frustrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othergrunty Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Everyone is stating its on invasions, and yet they have not got one single mutalist nav. this is starting to frustrate. As it currently looks like, they are only rewarded as node rewards. Meaning that you run one node 3 times to get 1 Alad V. Nav Code once the node is cleared. Which means that you have to wait for a new outbreak and then that the outbreak contains at least one node which rewards the Nav Code and then that you can get the 3 mission limit for the reward in time. Once that is done wait for the next Outbreak. So yeah. Currently worse than Vauban and Hydroid. Edited November 28, 2014 by Othergrunty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khallisto Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) There's an infested outbreak at Neptune now, with one node rewarding 01 (one only) Nav Coordinate. Edited November 28, 2014 by Khallisto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleBomber Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 The current one is absolutely great since it's Defense. 30 total waves for 1 coordinate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koorinosekai Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 not sure if its because the US players are wolfing down their turkey, but the Halimede invasion node been running for about an hour and half and still got 75% to go, so at least it seems like they balanced it out so it doesnt go like the tatter invasions, as they force you to slow down with sheer number of waves >w>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckbilledcow Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 This is all a plot or something to make us spend money on the new frame. Make it dumb as hek to even fight the boss then buy a new key then restart and so on, so on Etc. Limbo was 200p when he came out and was not to bad to get now Mesa is 325p (all most 20$) and she is a huge pain to farm for. I really see this as a marketing scheme to make us spend money. Or I may just be paranoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacasper Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) To get Mesa, you have to do: 27 alert missions so you finish 9 invasions, giving you 9 coordinates/parts, than 3 hours to build 3 key each key, each key you go to alad to get 3 frame part... and hope all the 3 parts that fall are different And we got 2 invasions so far. (Subjected to alterations on mechanics and lack of information from forum or wiki at the time of posting) Edit: x3 and aligment Edit2:solo and 91 Edit3: I was sleepy, my math was bad, sorry! Edited November 28, 2014 by rafacasper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keensight Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Really not a fan of that mechanic.... Still, better than Vauban. Affirmative! very precisely expressed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAROG Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I miss the days when bosses were on nodes, without needing keys for this, keys for that. Having to farm yet more keys is just "bleh". Can't say I like this decision, to be honest. I'd rather we expand the star map. Yeah, while some planets don't even have the boss. Let's make every node key-locked and first keys plat-purchase only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacritan Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Why didn't you make Salad just a node boss? Why do all the new bosses have to be stupid key farms? ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzpian Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 They should at least change the mutalist nav reward to 3 instead of 1 while they're sorting out a much better way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiDroboto Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 So you make it so we have to do invasion missions to get the coordinates and then make it so the missions that are even on *hard* nodes only give one coordinate in the same update in which you make it double on other rewards...? At least make is so doing the missions give three coordinates so we can stick a key in the oven since they take a hour to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zentwo Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 So... Need to complete a lot of alerts, which one may just do not spawn when i play, to get another one key and pray for right part... Simple and unobtrusively - "just buy it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomicakes Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) This new grindwall is honestly, (and the math has been done, in a post above mine,) worse than Hydroid's. And that was bad. Why does this feel like a increase of the intensity of the grindwall/paywall... that DE promised us would NOT happen after the acquisition by SUMPO/PW? Edited November 28, 2014 by Nomicakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habataki Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Key boss is one thing. Farming mindlessly to get 4 different types of beacons to craft key, that's one other thing. Now, we need to wait for outbreak node to have nav as reward, did it as fast as we can to get it done 3 times before the outbreak end, and do this at least 3 times to get enough nav for crafting just one key, and try our luck with RNG again to get three parts of Mesa?This isn't challenging, Sir. This is insane! Why we have to suffer this much to get new warframe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietEbolaCola Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Please also add the Navs as drops from Eximus Infested or something, too. Maybe limit that to Hive missions only to fit the lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacasper Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) ^ Good idea Edited November 28, 2014 by rafacasper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) i dont see nav alerts too... i have intel cpu Edited November 28, 2014 by fuffi2milka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noponis Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 there are currently about 15 invasions of the infested type ONE of them contains a nav coordinate you need 3 of these for one key and at least 3 but most likely 10 keys to get the frame this is not even CLOSE to being acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer89 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) If this how it will go from now on, i say goodbye to the game, its beginning to feel that PWE has purchased a controlling interest. Hydroid key farming was/is good because you can farm it when you want how you want it, same with Nekros but with this setup they force you to buy Mesa with Platinum. After Evolve is released and as good as its seems to be i leave this game, i better buy a game and know what i get for my money, like with WOW 8 years of playing and i never regretted the money i spent on it, Warframe is only playable in moderate doses because its so repetitive grindfest Edited November 29, 2014 by Slayer89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Why didn't you make Salad just a node boss? Why do all the new bosses have to be stupid key farms? i wish that after we completed the key ourselfs we could go there anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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