GunDownGrace Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) . Edited January 10, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jylon Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 In short, this is the issue - with so many items being stuck in rotations B and C, dilution and the wondrous RNG hell we all know will need a huge tweak eventually. For survivals, interceptions, and defenses, it is probably soon time to stop single rotation instances and go to ABC-ABC-ABC rather than AABC. if it was my choice, i;d do it now as AA-BB-CC-AA-BB-CC and forma/fusions/cells have NO place being in rotation C where the more difficult to get items are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jylon Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 oh and to add...it is obvious some parts are given less of a chance to be rewarded...either increase rotation frequency as i have shown or give the damn parts a a more equal drop chance. i am also certain that map design and/or player account identifying information also play a role. there are instances a map looks totally different in design than the usual void outlay and i wind up getting a rarely-dropped part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomder Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Time and time again, de has made stealth changes. This is no big surprise. Good luck getting them to admit to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Time and time again, de has made stealth changes. This is no big surprise. Good luck getting them to admit to it. I can still hope :/. Seriously this is the first change I've felt honestly shafted by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Remember when the drop tables weren't obfuscated? I miss the Warframe of 1.5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 He isn't lying. Just today I did Archwing Uranus Interception mission, and on Wave 4 we received a T4Surv. Wait T4 Archwing Void Mission? hahahahahahahaha..........wait........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SALTLIGHT Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) yes OP is right, i have this issue yesterday as well here's the image: T1 Def supposed to drop forma in rotation A but it drops a t1 cap instead. the prime drop location is no longer true right? Edited December 29, 2014 by SaltLight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loswaith Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I just did a thorough search of the forums. NOBODY is noticing this rotation C change of the void tables. Are we really that blind? Im gonna guess 60% forma drop rate. It's fine to give me junk prime parts, but please remove cores and forma from rotation C. You guys at DE promised you'd work on the grind and you did right making rotation c a goal. Now you've REMOVED that and made it so much more tedious. Please change rotation C rewards back You will likely find players are noticing it, but given void tables get broken every time they add something most of us are tired of mentioning it to only happen again the next time around. This time is worse becuse of the holidays, as usualy they fix it otherwise within about a week (typically a day or two). The issue is more the system is inherently flawed. There are numerious ideas sugested, though given the void trader was one of the biggest factors that could of allievated the issue (rather than making it an incentive to make prime parts to be droped less, to limit ducat gain), I doubt any sugestions will actually be considered all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 yes OP is right, i have this issue yesterday as well here's the image: T1 Def supposed to drop forma in rotation A but it drops a t1 cap instead. the prime drop location is no longer true right? good drop table for 1st april :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 T1 tables have keys added into them. This was added waaay back for an unknown reason anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DotBeta Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 they need to fix this, im sick of getting S#&$ drops at c rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snydrex Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 This isn't funny anymore, DE. I'm drowning in R5's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Toycammander666 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I noticed this as well like i'm... This isn't funny anymore, DE. I'm drowning in R5's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 This isn't funny anymore, DE. I'm drowning in R5's. I need more R5s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 T1 tables have keys added into them. This was added waaay back for an unknown reason anyway. yeah, to t1s. Im also talking about t4s thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh0ck-Wave Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 To me this all seems linked into the appearance of the void trader .. As soon as 'random' parts you didn't need suddenly became useful to you, those random parts are now even harder to get. Maybe this is some kind of stealth 'gotcha' and in a couple weeks after everyone's thinned out their prime stash he'll rock up with something really awesome for 1,000 Ducat .. and suddenly everyone will be smashing tower missions for whatever parts the RND gods will let them have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 To me this all seems linked into the appearance of the void trader .. As soon as 'random' parts you didn't need suddenly became useful to you, those random parts are now even harder to get. Maybe this is some kind of stealth 'gotcha' and in a couple weeks after everyone's thinned out their prime stash he'll rock up with something really awesome for 1,000 Ducat .. and suddenly everyone will be smashing tower missions for whatever parts the RND gods will let them have. that's actually what I think they're trying to do but honestly? It's a TERRIBLE way to prevent us from getting ducats. they honestly RUINED rotation c, they are punishing their players and it is a toxic change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh0ck-Wave Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 that's actually what I think they're trying to do but honestly? It's a TERRIBLE way to prevent us from getting ducats. they honestly RUINED rotation c, they are punishing their players and it is a toxic change Hey I agree completely .. Ran a ton of tower runs over the Xmas holidays and got very few rotation C items. Was wondering what was going on there, so this thread has shed some light on a possible answer. However I now have more forma then I know what to do with .. so looks like the dojo's getting some new shiney things .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 This time is worse becuse of the holidays, as usualy they fix it otherwise within about a week (typically a day or two). The issue is more the system is inherently flawed. There are numerious ideas sugested, though given the void trader was one of the biggest factors that could of allievated the issue (rather than making it an incentive to make prime parts to be droped less, to limit ducat gain), I doubt any sugestions will actually be considered all that much. "Fix" implies that they made a mistake. You don't accidentally break the void drop tables - especially when it's supposedly "stable" (read: no new prime parts in the last few patches). No, this is deliberate - just like it was all the previous times. Exactly the same thing that made me ragequit nearly 7 months ago. Checked in 3 weeks ago, started to like the Buzlok and Archwing, but nothing's changed and I'll probably end up leaving again. Perhaps I'll see if I can take more of my clan with me this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyLoneZ Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Stealth changes? Ooohhh why am I effin surprised? *cough Mesa passive and TD mods on Mutalist Incursion cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZzVinniezZ Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 before x-mas update, i always get t1 keys at wave 5 xini. Now....not even a key just useless mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haolee510 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'll probably end up leaving again. Perhaps I'll see if I can take more of my clan with me this time. And why would you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennoninjahunter Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The rotations are ABCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC ^ is no where near the truth,please provide proof if u insist u're correct, show pictures with matching drops for matching rotations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 And why would you do that? To spare them the horrible grind and frustration of fighting through 3 layers of nested, rigged RNG. Or perhaps it's out of spite and hatred for the game I once loved. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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