Ishki88 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Not following. Is it cuz the archwing parts didn't drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Not following. Is it cuz the archwing parts didn't drop? Wave 4 dropped T4 Key. Why on earth.............nevermind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Wave 4 dropped T4 Key. Why on earth.............nevermind.. ahhh true, earth shouldnt even drop that. I see your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BagelBaronessKira Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I know DE is coming back from vacation soon, I wonder if they will notice this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinaker Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) I know DE is coming back from vacation soon, I wonder if they will notice this topic They'll laugh and thank God they encrypted the drop rates so they can't be called out so easily. Edited January 2, 2015 by Rinaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BagelBaronessKira Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 They'll laugh and thank God they encrypted the drop rates so they can't be called out so easily. sure they can, the rewards are there, clear as day. We don't need to know their %s, their very presence is WRONG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinaker Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 sure they can, the rewards are there, clear as day. We don't need to know their %s, their very presence is WRONG But without the actual drop tables they can spin any number of excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BagelBaronessKira Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 But without the actual drop tables they can spin any number of excuses. uh, no they can't. There is no excuse for random junk being in rotation C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chhkt Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Alright, I'll take your word for it then. On-topic Can you guys supply me with more screenshots of your junk rotation c drops? It'd greatly help my topic if we supply an abundance of evidence Every three topics there is a thread full of evidence. The best we can do is keep stuff like this bumped. Because the outcry is huge already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filas312 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) This has barely any relation to the topic. Again, Sumpo bought non-voting stocks, see Steves post somewhere for it. Look under the announcements or something. But please, stick to the topic, or else the Mods will remove off topic posts, or worse, delete the thread if it gets derailed too far. We're just talking about facts - they're owned by Sumpo as of now. I hope we're not getting any chicken wings on Rotation C... Edited January 2, 2015 by Filas312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Every three topics there is a thread full of evidence. The best we can do is keep stuff like this bumped. Because the outcry is huge already. Can you uh...show me said topics? I did a quick search of the forums and I ain't finding S#&$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haolee510 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Can you uh...show me said topics? I did a quick search of the forums and I ain't finding S#&$ I had screenshots taken, but when I turned off the game and see my picture folder, they aren't showing the end mission scene, just my Warframe standing there. Might be due to me having "Don't show UI on screenshots" checked in options. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filas312 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 OP, I hope you don't mind I've archived the thread as 11 XPS files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clovis15 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 To Filas312: I want Chicken Wing Prime, and Chicken Bucket Prime, to drop on Rotation C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHorseman Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I wonder what words DE has to say on this topic of the changes to Rotation C. It will be interesting to hear if/when this topic gets brought up. Or one of the Devs themselves comes out and says something on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBones Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Well, well. First off let's set a few things straight. Discussion about void rotation tables: Good. Sometimes old rotation data gets posted into a new build and is missed. This should be reported rather than turned into some kind of exploded conspiracy theory. Sumpo Foods / Delicious Chicken discussion: Good. It's fine to talk about information that has been released, but once again going into the realms of 'our new overlords' is tinfoil-hat-wearing idiocy. If you want to keep your thread open, then keep it on topic, talk facts and provide good feedback. Otherwise it's Klick-Klunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filas312 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Well, well. First off let's set a few things straight. Discussion about void rotation tables: Good. Sometimes old rotation data gets posted into a new build and is missed. This should be reported rather than turned into some kind of exploded conspiracy theory. Sumpo Foods / Delicious Chicken discussion: Good. It's fine to talk about information that has been released, but once again going into the realms of 'our new overlords' is tinfoil-hat-wearing idiocy. If you want to keep your thread open, then keep it on topic, talk facts and provide good feedback. Otherwise it's Klick-Klunk. :( I believe it's better to kick off conspiracy with jokes rather than warning the conspiracy theoretists, as they're just going to get their tinfoil hats on. The tables aren't old. They're broken. Edited January 2, 2015 by Filas312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinaker Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Well, well. First off let's set a few things straight. Discussion about void rotation tables: Good. Sometimes old rotation data gets posted into a new build and is missed. This should be reported rather than turned into some kind of exploded conspiracy theory. Sumpo Foods / Delicious Chicken discussion: Good. It's fine to talk about information that has been released, but once again going into the realms of 'our new overlords' is tinfoil-hat-wearing idiocy. If you want to keep your thread open, then keep it on topic, talk facts and provide good feedback. Otherwise it's Klick-Klunk. I dunno what we're not supposed to say about Sumpo Foods. One mod tells me all discussion is to be banned/locked. Another two tell me it is okay. The first two give me wrong information and then when I provide evidence from the contract that Sumpo and Perfect World has a majority in voting stock and nowhere in the contract is DE granted any creative control they feign ignorance and run away. ): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) I PERSONALLY think that Void Survival table C in particular needs help. 36 Frost Prime helms, 12 Forma in 18 runs (3 to 60 min, the rest to 40) and then FINALLY one Nova Prime Chassis. RNG it may be, but that was PAINFULLY like work. Not play. I have no opinion on the Perfect World stuff. I will wait and see what happens. From what I have read though, the company who shall remain infamous is not involved in anything to do in China and the parent company wants it KEPT that way. Can't really blame them. Some subsidiary companies are the same as the parent company. I don't see that here. Edited January 2, 2015 by Kalenath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHorseman Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I would like to see how the drops are weighted as of now, as in how they calculate it, or some explanation from someone in DE for it. So that we can see how it works and put some of this worry to rest. Or strengthen it, depends on what we find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filas312 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I PERSONALLY think that getting Void Survival table C needs help. 36 Frost Prime helms, 12 Forma. in 18 runs and then FINALLY one Nova Prime Chassis. RNG it may be, but that was PAINFUL I have no opinion on the Perfect World stuff. I will wait and see what happens. The company who shall remain infamous is not involved in anything to do in China and the parent company wants it KEPT that way. Small OT: Perfect World involved is said not to be the infamous Perfect World, as probably they're just giving Sumpo some insight onto what is happening in Warframe. RNG is not the only reason, the drop chances are purposefully set low so we won't get stuff too fast. Or some will and sell it overprice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyLoneZ Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 RNG is not the only reason, the drop chances are purposefully set low so we won't get stuff too fast. Isn't that pretty much the problem right now? As if the fact that drop table is diluted isn't bad enough, it's also skewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Small OT: Perfect World involved is said not to be the infamous Perfect World, as probably they're just giving Sumpo some insight onto what is happening in Warframe. RNG is not the only reason, the drop chances are purposefully set low so we won't get stuff too fast. Or some will and sell it overprice. Or it may have been bugged in one of the hotfixes. We don't know. The Chinese parent company is apparently fairly well respected in business circles. The North American subsidiary is scum and everyone knows it. The absolute BEST thing I have heard from any of my business contacts about the North American subsidiary is that they are not to be trusted. The comments go downhill from there. But, my contact was clear. They are NOT the same company. The money all goes up to the parent company, but the subsidiary is run by North Americans. Not Chinese. (I have left the acronyms out on purpose. They confuse people.) Edited January 2, 2015 by Kalenath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBones Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) :( I believe it's better to kick off conspiracy with jokes rather than warning the conspiracy theoretists, as they're just going to get their tinfoil hats on. The tables aren't old. They're broken. I agree, it needs to be looked at. All I am saying is that a stealth nerf may not always be the reason. Legitimate errors can be the cause. I dunno what we're not supposed to say about Sumpo Foods. One mod tells me all discussion is to be banned/locked. Another two tell me it is okay. The first two give me wrong information and then when I provide evidence from the contract that Sumpo and Perfect World has a majority in voting stock and nowhere in the contract is DE granted any creative control they feign ignorance and run away. ): I will ask the team and the devs so we can get on the same page. These cases are usually handled as they arise however. If someone is saying 'OMG SUMPO OVERLORDS' then it's gonna get locked or deleted, because it adds nothing, it's fundamentally false and does nothing bust spread BS. If it's about how publication of the game in China will affect the level of new players or how including the eastern hemisphere may add content to accomidate for eastern theology, etc. then that is good discussion and relevant. Again, this is very case-by-case though. Just be smart and be civil is all we ask. CLARIFICATION: The deal with Sumpo has nothing to do with void drop tables. You can drop the packages of tin-foil now. Anything outside of talk about the drop tables will be cleaned out of the thread as derailing. Edited January 2, 2015 by SilverBones Clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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