Nitrotetrazole Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 So since nullifiers came out, ive always wondered what would happen if they were to step into limbo's cataclysm. Doing a T4 survival with my clan, with had the unpleasant surprise of discovering the answer : They become invincible. In a strange twist of events, the nullifiers shield cancels out cataclysm completly making them stay in the material plane unlike other enemies, and this seems to make theire shield also stay in the material plane. Or something like that. End result is : a nullifier with his shield on walking withing a cataclysm bubble becomes invincible. We kept shooting at his shield but nothing happened. And given how theire bubble shield work, it made every enemy around them invincible too. Lets just say it was NOT a fun game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftMeat Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Even more reason to hate Limbo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminem2420 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Nullifiers are the most annoying enemy in Warframe imo. They become a big problem when they get to higher levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aktriaz Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Working as intended. Ugh... Arc Traps all over again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 +1 OP Even more reason to hate Limbo ... actually, even more reason to demand that DE fix Limbo, there has been no word on fixing Cataclysm and several patches have gone out... additionally Nullifiers shield should NOT be invul to weapons AND abilities, the shields should be more vulnerable to gunfire and thrown melee =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShardsSuperior Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Wait. What if you jumped OUT of Cataclysm and keep shooting him? Edited December 19, 2014 by ShardsSuperior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txzeenath Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 What a suprise. When you combine the most annoying warframe in the game with the most annoying enemy. You get this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrotetrazole Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Wait. What if you jumped OUT of Cataclysm and keep shooting him? absolutely nothing, still dosent do anything. it seems as long as nullifier is in the rift plane, he's absolutely invincible +1 OP actually, even more reason to demand that DE fix Limbo, there has been no word on fixing Cataclysm and several patches have gone out... additionally Nullifiers shield should NOT be invul to weapons AND abilities, the shields should be more vulnerable to gunfire and thrown melee =/ I agree. nullifiers right now nullifies everything. the shield should only block power use, not weapon too. High level voids have become amazingly annoying when more than a single nullifier is around at the same time. When they start overlapping shield, you basicly need quadruple the firepower because you must get rid of all of them at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbadeus Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 +1 OPNow that we can toggle Cataclytsm off but this is a real problem that needs to be settled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerHappyWhiteGuy Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Wait. What if you jumped OUT of Cataclysm and keep shooting him? then the bullets would get lost going into the void. From what I would assume no one could damage anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitalis_Inamorta Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I have a couple of interesting thoughts about this, having to fight through wave after wave of these guys as a defense limbo build. #1: What happens if you go inside their shield while remaining in the catacalysm? Is it an entire bubble of non-rift space, or just them? (We already know that nullifiers have some kind of secondary "skin-field" inside the bubble that protects them in odd ways...). #2: What happens if a nullifers is brought into the rift while his shield is down, then his shield activates? Does he become a riftifier that cannot return to the material plane while bringing anything inside the bubble into the rift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) absolutely nothing, still dosent do anything. it seems as long as nullifier is in the rift plane, he's absolutely invincible I agree. nullifiers right now nullifies everything. the shield should only block power use, not weapon too. High level voids have become amazingly annoying when more than a single nullifier is around at the same time. When they start overlapping shield, you basicly need quadruple the firepower because you must get rid of all of them at the same time What I am about to say -does not defend- Limbo in any way. ... How about -not using- the Rift Plane when they're in the same room...? They won't become invincible, right? After all, they're on a different plane. It would be perfectly natural for weapons on a different plane not affecting the enemy (or enemies) that are actually on a different plane. Also, why shouldn't their shields blocking ordnance thrown at them? With each touch, their nullifying shields shrink. Instead of relying on Limbo to do the job you and/or your team can't do (which is to damage the Nullifiers, go figure), how about you and/or your team members prioritize them as the most dangerous and shoot their shields with rapid fire weapons? Even IF the weapon does 1 damage or 10000000, the shot still gets blocked, so the more shots hit their shields, the faster will they drop... Even if there are multiple Nullifiers. ... Also, enemies like to think the Nullifiers are like an Eximus enemy. They grow a large sack when a Nullifier appears, but scatter around quickly when the Nullifiers are dead. ... so, Limbo, stop putting the Nullifiers into the Rift and everything is fine. Grow a sack bigger than the enemies that go "escort" a Nullifier and shoot them dead quickly instead of making them invincible with stupid tactics... ... And yes, because of such a stupid tactic, you ended up triggering a bug that I think isn't a bug but -almost- working as intended, minus the invulnerability part AFTER the effect of the ability ends... Edited January 22, 2015 by Uhkretor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrotetrazole Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 What I am about to say -does not defend- Limbo in any way. ... How about -not using- the Rift Plane when they're in the same room...? They won't become invincible, right? After all, they're on a different plane. It would be perfectly natural for weapons on a different plane not affecting the enemy (or enemies) that are actually on a different plane. Also, why shouldn't their shields blocking ordnance thrown at them? With each touch, their nullifying shields shrink. Instead of relying on Limbo to do the job you and/or your team can't do (which is to damage the Nullifiers, go figure), how about you and/or your team members prioritize them as the most dangerous and shoot their shields with rapid fire weapons? Even IF the weapon does 1 damage or 10000000, the shot still gets blocked, so the more shots hit their shields, the faster will they drop... Even if there are multiple Nullifiers. ... Also, enemies like to think the Nullifiers are like an Eximus enemy. They grow a large sack when a Nullifier appears, but scatter around quickly when the Nullifiers are dead. ... so, Limbo, stop putting the Nullifiers into the Rift and everything is fine. Grow a sack bigger than the enemies that go "escort" a Nullifier and shoot them dead quickly instead of making them invincible with stupid tactics... ... And yes, because of such a stupid tactic, you ended up triggering a bug that I think isn't a bug but -almost- working as intended, minus the invulnerability part AFTER the effect of the ability ends... You completly and utterly missed the point ive been making. I never once mentionned people relied on limbo in the group to do anything, i never once said we were specifically putting them in the riftplane (we never willingly did) and the occurence always happened when they were nowhere to be seem, using cataclysm seemed like a good idea and then they spawned and came in. Its easy to say now that cataclysm can be toggled, but before that it was a major problem. it still is in a way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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