Kaiser_Suoh Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) I write this before everyone get distracted by the new event. New hotfix (good event and news btw) and still not fixed the issue with Snipers/Bows vs Nullifiers. - Still the big radius. - Still they can recast shields. - Still not have sense in the game (not have Lore... Stalker´s Dispel fans) - Still Akzani without mods (13 of damage per bullet only) can melt the shield of a Nullifier lv30 so fast >>> "tested" - No more "feel like Rambo" in Voids. That is sad D: - Bows and Snipers needs a lot of time to destroy the Shield even if does a lot of damage (images below) Why so many hate against Snipers/Bows users? (maybe I exaggerate but that is what I feel) Do I have to be forced to use automatic weapons? (a dumb tank with Boltor/Braton/Soma or any automatic weapon) DE if you refused to fix the Nullifier... -sigh- im fine with it... i will not protest more... im tired. Well... maybe i can protest only for the Sniper thing : ) Lanka doing high damage: Dread doing damage (the Nullifier is corralling me btw) FORGET SECUNDARY WEAPONS. What about if i go with not automatic weapons?: Sniper + brakk + any melee. Would be more hard than when i go with purely automatic weapons? Is not about being LAZY OR NOT. WHY I CAN NOT CHOOSE WHAT I WANT WEAR??? I can think and go for the easy option that DE gave us, only automatic weapons in voids. That is the complain in this thread!!! EDIT: In short, nullifing the powers aside, Nullifiers are an ANTI-SNIPER unit. You say "Snipers not kill them? no problem... just use another automatic or secundary weapon" but that does not solve the Sniper/Bow problem. How you would feel if in the future DE releases an ANTI-AUTOMATIC unit? Like a Sniper/Bow user i feel annoyed. EDIT2: In another of my posts i said: "people are adapting to the problem" but still is a problem. Are people who are so desperate for difficulty in this game (i dont know why, but maybe they have reasons) that they accept without doubting a broken enemy. And not even think for a single second how it can affect the rest of the game. Is easy to say "its a challenge, just change your beloved Sniper and choose another good weapon" or "use your secundary you fool" Its not about only destroy the Nullifier, is about "why Snipers/Bows are a bad option now?" And what about my Synoid? it can destroy the shield (same with the Unranked Akzani), i know, but the problem is with the Snipers. PLS DONT RESPOND "Use your secundary" because i dont want just kill a Nullifier... i just want use my Lanka without disadvantage compared with an Automatic reapon. >>>Example?: "in 2015 the new enemy have an anti-automatic weapons mechanics" then the answer to solve that is "Stop using Snipers automatic weapons" "use secundary you fool"... that is ok? that is a challenge? No, THAT is absurd. Absurd Mechanics in a enemy = Broken enemy <<< (how i can make this more big? oh nevermind) EDIT3: If I can not use my sniper, why bring it from the beginning? <<< My point. Edited December 20, 2014 by Kaiser_Suoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dualstar Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Oh come off it. Youve plainly got a Synoid Gammacor as your scondary, you couldnt just microwave them? Too lazy to press F and go on as normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Oh come off it. Youve plainly got a Synoid Gammacor as your scondary, you couldnt just microwave them? Too lazy to press F and go on as normal? But i love my Sniper and Bow : ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery8 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Nullifiers have been in the game for like two weeks, chill out. New units always have problems for a while, they'll be tweaked like the rest. You have a synoid, so stop it. You can break the bubbles rather easy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranks21 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 just about given up on this game once was very appealing now it's just meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery8 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 just about given up on this game once was very appealing now it's just meh. Then quit? Every game becomes unappealing if you play it long enough, come back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Nullifiers have been in the game for like two weeks, chill out. New units always have problems for a while, they'll be tweaked like the rest. You have a synoid, so stop it. You can break the bubbles rather easy now. I have Synoid yes, but i want use my Lanka. Stop saying "use good weapons", i am complaining about the problem with snipers and nows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judgebanks Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Or you could melee them, then we could get back to the real topic of WHY CAN'T WE DO MISSIONS WITHOUT A WARFRAME EQUIPPED, GOSH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClowdyHowdy Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Why are you being so dramatic? You're acting like DE are sitting on their thumbs because they haven't spent their time adjusting the game to accommodate the style you want to play the game in. DE have been pushing massive updates for months, adding content for a lot of people. They add arching missions, syndicates, new sigils, ten no hubs, new frames, excavations, all kinds of stuff and you're saying you give up because they are not making it easy for you to sit still in your ninja suit shooting people across the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snydrex Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Priorities, priorities, priorities. DE's going to to it. But they have more significant things to do first. Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery8 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I have Synoid yes, but i want use my Lanka. Stop saying "use good weapons", i am complaining about the problem with snipers and nows. I'm not saying use good weapons, I'm saying you should use all of your resources. Melee and secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranks21 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) the op wants to use his weapon of choice he feels comfortable with and what is so hard to comprehend in that? not everyone wants to jump on the rickety bandwagon, some as myself chooses our own path. I love my Cernos bow more than any other weapon in this game and I outright use it through every mission, but now that will be put down because of this one enemy which just renders it obsolete. no one is telling you how to play or who to follow or what to use so don't try to impose that on anyone else. weapons are there for everyone to find their preference same as frames, for some its just bows for others its rifles, and when you blatantly cut out the use of a class or in this case two classes of weapons might aswell take them out the game because they are of no use against these enemies no matter how hard you try. Edited December 20, 2014 by ranks21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapClown Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 the op wants to use his weapon of choice he feels comfortable with and what is so hard to comprehend in that? not everyone wants to jump on the rickety bandwagon, some as myself chooses our own path. I love my Cernos bow more than any other weapon in this game and I outright use it through every mission, but now that will be put down because of this one enemy which just renders it obsolete. no one is telling you how to play or who to follow or what to use so don't try to impose that on anyone else. weapons are there for everyone to find their preference same as frames, for some its just bows for others its rifles, and when you blatantly cut out the use of a class or in this case two classes of weapons might aswell take them out the game because they are of no use against these enemies no matter how hard you try. well said +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery8 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 the op wants to use his weapon of choice he feels comfortable with and what is so hard to comprehend in that? not everyone wants to jump on the rickety bandwagon, some as myself chooses our own path. I love my Cernos bow more than any other weapon in this game and I outright use it through every mission, but now that will be put down because of this one enemy which just renders it obsolete. no one is telling you how to play or who to follow or what to use so don't try to impose that on anyone else. weapons are there for everyone to find their preference same as frames, for some its just bows for others its rifles, and when you blatantly cut out the use of a class or in this case two classes of weapons might aswell take them out the game because they are of no use against these enemies no matter how hard you try. I fully agree with this, I'm sorry to OP if I came off as saying "get gud". I only meant using all of your arsenal at a time. The nulifiers do need work, that's no question. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Jam Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 -suggesting other methods- Maybe the guy doesn't want to change his play-style for a single enemy type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunRii Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Maybe the guy doesn't want to change his play-style for a single enemy type? Then most games will end up making the person quit. There will always be one mob type that requires adaption to kill effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Jam Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Then most games will end up making the person quit. There will always be one mob type that requires adaption to kill effectively. There's a difference between 'adaptation' and 'rendering an entire weapon class useless'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaynArgyr Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 There's a difference between 'adaptation' and 'rendering an entire weapon class useless'. Which is not one, but at least 3: Sniper Rifles Bows Not Automatic Rifles Or how the hell you call the ones like the Latron Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Redwire Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Not Automatic Rifles Or how the hell you call the ones like the Latron Prime. I think the term you're looking for is semi-automatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoolgirls Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Maybe the guy doesn't want to change his play-style for a single enemy type? Switching to your sidearm that is perfect for taking down those shields doesn't constitute a change in play style. Especially when you've got it equipped and it's right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaF0rce Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Semi-Automatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draciusen Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 A full auto bullet hose like the Soma doesn't take down the shields effectively either because you can't crit on them. I switch to my secondary weapons to spray into them, no big deal. It's not cheating, quit acting like it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaynArgyr Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I think the term you're looking for is semi-automatic. Semi-Automatic. Aren't Semi-Automatic the 3-shot small burst ones? (Ignorant at guns...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Redwire Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Aren't Semi-Automatic the 3-shot small burst ones? (Ignorant at guns...) Not in the case of Warframe. 'Semi-automatic' describes the trigger mechanism, in which the trigger has to be pulled in order to fire a round or several rounds but the magazine isn't completely expended. Since all burst-fire weapons in warframe fire their rounds in specific burst counts no matter how you shoot them (ie. the Hind will ALWAYS fire 5 rounds at a time no matter how long or short you hold the trigger), they are also semi-automatic just as a weapon such as a Latron for instance. Edited December 20, 2014 by DJ_Redwire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkillo32 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Which is not one, but at least 3: Sniper Rifles Bows Not Automatic Rifles Or how the hell you call the ones like the Latron Prime. semi automatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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