Senketsu_ Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Being a prick isnt exactly going to get people to agree with youwhile he was harsh about it he did bring up some good points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexlars Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) while he was harsh about it he did bring up some good points The guys 3 below bring up some even better points. About zephyr, this concept was around BEFORE zephyr was. Zephyrs abilities blow excal out of the water, as does rhinos. Mirage's hall of mirrors destroys loki's decoy. And yet DE made them anyway. Also no one cares about your negative nancy opinion. And by the way almost all frames have a crazy PP ability or two. But thanks for the free bump. So by what your saying, there is already a huge aoe aggro pulling tank that can sustain himself through regen, taking the attention of ALL enemies around him and off allies in need of dire help, all while increasing his own defense and damage while tanking for the team!? Why haven't I seen this frame in the game yet then? Just because some skills are similar, does not mean they are clones entirely. Some of them could use tweaks, but they're more of a hindrance to unskilled players. Let's see how many people can "fly" while having the attention of EVERYTHING in the room. Staying still is no option here. But since we're talking about cloned skills.. Let's see: Slash Dash, Rhino Charge, Tail Wind, Tidal Surge. Pretty much all forward dashes.. Super Jump and Tail Wind. Oh look at that, Tail Wind just took over TWO abilities at once. Radial Blind and Prism.. I think you get my point? Just because Dragon is going to be a tanky bruiser, doesn't mean he's just going to be another clone. His design is meant to be more active and mobile, taking the attention of all enemies so that his team has room to breath, and survive. He will for sure be one of those frames for the skilled. With limited CC, the player will need to pay maximum attention to their surroundings, even further more when in a room with multiple flanks, or just plain being up in the air. You can't call him overpowered, can't call him underpowered either. There will probably be a cap to his regen abilities. They'll be high enough to sustain him, but not make him immortal. Flying can't really be called overpowered either, unless overpowered means getting shot down by 25 grunts, 3 bombards and 2 heavy gunners. I can understand where your coming from with not wanting another clone, but it's not like Frost and Rhino play the same, neither do Excal or Zephyr. Edit: Typo Edited August 9, 2014 by Rexlars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) The guys 3 below bring up some even better points. While the original Dragon concept was made in April of 2013, Dragon 2.0 seemed to have started being thought of back in April of 2014 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/37089-a-warframe-concept-the-dragon-20-—-major-art-update-6162014/?p=2463713 and is the one being compared to Zephyr which was started in October of 2013 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/121272-warframe-concept-zephyr-the-wind-elemental-artwork-included-resolved/, and Rhino and the only real reason he is being compared to Rhino is becasue he has the same Physique and size as Rhino. Edited August 10, 2014 by Senketsu_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avicou Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Awesome concept, but the ult needs to cost way way more than that. On a full energy pool his ult could be 30 seconds long. Maybe be like Banshee's: 25+12 a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentPorpoise Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Great idea! The whole story is well thought out and the idea of the Warframe it's self is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuuro Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) You know. Speaking story wise. I was thinking about this, but wasn't too sure about it until now. So, we all should know, that there are ranks all the way up to rank 30. (Check your challenges if you didn't know) Among those ranks, is the rank called, you guessed it! The Dragon Rank. So, wouldn't it be a unique way to unlock a frame? After hitting Dragon rank, you could embark on a long, and excruciatingly difficult quest to unlock the dragon frame. Why should it be so hard? Dragon rank IS a high rank, so therefore, you SHOULD be skilled, and have your abilities put to the test to obtain this frame. This could fit lore wise, as a Tenno, you slowly gain in rank, attesting to your skills of Gun&Blade. When you reach the high ranks of the Tenno, you embark on a quest to become one of the elite few to have access to the Dragon Frame. Becoming one of the elite few who wish to protect his fellow Tenno, and bring all harm onto oneself, to see your brethren live to fight another day. Well? Thoughts? Edited August 10, 2014 by Shuuro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrian Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 I apologize for the long delay between updates, but I have actually been hunting for work. No promises, but I'll try to have concepts for the next iteration of Dragon up tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuuro Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I apologize for the long delay between updates, but I have actually been hunting for work. No promises, but I'll try to have concepts for the next iteration of Dragon up tomorrow. Take your time, rushed work usually never turns out the way you want it. Good luck with work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitle Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 +1 i like the concept, and would like a litle more mindful tank class....main a rhino atm, second is valkyr :) And even if the style breaks a bit from the norm, id really like to see it mixed up a bit and this style is amazing! maybe they could add a spear weapon class with him, or an actual defensive sword and shield! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I apologize for the long delay between updates, but I have actually been hunting for work. No promises, but I'll try to have concepts for the next iteration of Dragon up tomorrow. As Shuuro said, take your time, don't rush it and good luck with job-hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophax Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 A quick rough sketch of the small changes I'm considering. Also, as far as names go, if I do a "dual-stage" Warframe, he might well have two names, and if he does: Siegfried while grounded (with a more "knightly" set of abilities), Fafnir while in Rising Dragon (with the more appropriately "dragon" abilities). Maybe. Everything is always in a state of "maybe, maybe not, we'll see." WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT GIVE ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okamibanshu88 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT GIVE ME i hope not. i liked the original dragon the best. slim sleak, the whole thing behind a dragon is that their scales are waht gives them so much invulnerability. making him big and bulky kinda goes awsome from the steam line i liked of him. But regardless, still awsome art :) i just hope they keep draogn more thin, and kinad lancerish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livarpyl Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 amazing work especially the plasma element if DE make him i think he and Rhino will be a big combo cuz they are both tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSITH Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hmm..... It's ... It's ... Beautiful . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Well... I said "Take your time"... But it would be nice if you post something... Endrian... Edited August 14, 2014 by Drejzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veryk Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 All DE staff needs to be PM'd this everyday until they put it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 better not, that would more than annoy them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beas7ie Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Well... I said "Take your time"... But it would be nice if post something... I agree, let's get started. Also lets post this thread on every Warframe youtube video and every stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 It might bring more harm than good... and i fixed a mistake in that post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) HA! In U15 we will be flying in space! So, dragon could get a unique Archwing... Or Archwing for use in environment with gravitation (which causes use of warframe's energy)... Edited August 15, 2014 by Drejzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero.No.Hikari Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Guess Dragon's special accessory should be a Archwing skin, that would be killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Oh yes! If only DE allowed us to go for a walk fly outside at any time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Have anyone seen Endrian recently? It's getting quiet here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)fredfredzarion14 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Amazing idea very talented, I actually hope this makes it into the game, you should do weapon designs too if you haven't already, dragon specific or otherwise. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)fredfredzarion14 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Pretty cool idea dude... stats wise hes a bit too tough thou i think.. plasma breath sounds dope thou...sorta like the fire breath helmet in Dark Souls haha i agree plasma breath would....be....AWSOME!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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