Nosferagon Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 What no dragon breath? or plasma breath. would the first power end with wings going foward (from abupt stop) thus releasing the shockwave or jet beams? Love the ideia. kudos :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrian Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 What no dragon breath? or plasma breath. would the first power end with wings going foward (from abupt stop) thus releasing the shockwave or jet beams? Love the ideia. kudos :D The way I see the Winged Lancer attack coming, he'd arrive at the end point of the flight, supercharge his jets, then do a quick 360-degree spin, spraying the plasma fire everywhere before landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannamancer Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 SO YEAH DE ADD THIS NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferagon Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 The way I see the Winged Lancer attack coming, he'd arrive at the end point of the flight, supercharge his jets, then do a quick 360-degree spin, spraying the plasma fire everywhere before landing. hmm... admitedly i like that. but wouldn't a charge plus AOE dmg attack be a bit too much for a first power? maybe instead of doing dmg the aoe atk could just stun? or a 100% proc of the plasma elemental type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Winged Lancer does dmg ONLY at the end, and there is no Plasma element - it's a theme, like water antimatter etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferagon Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Winged Lancer does dmg ONLY at the end, and there is no Plasma element - it's a theme, like water antimatter etc. my bad i misunderstood. awesome job then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavocWolf Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) I don't think he should use jets in his attacks... They feel too fighter jet, plane-like (or at least that what it makes me think of). He should also have plasma coming from his mouth to relate more to a dragon. In addition, there are a few changes that could be made to Winged Lancer and Rising Dragon. For Winged Lancer, Instead of jets, give him his wings back, but made of plasma. So he has plasma wings. This would also relate to WINGED lancer, not jet lancer. He would dash forward like excalibur (with its own animation) and at the end (or when stopped) would do a 360 AOE swing with his melee weapon. The swing could take into account the melee weapons range (+reach mod on melee weapon). While doing the 360 swing, instead of plasma coming from his gauntlets/jets, they would come from his mouth. So you would have him dash (doing dmg while dashing like excalibur) and when stopped, 360 spin attack with melee and plasma breath. The dmg done from the 2 attacks could be balanced very easily. For his Ultimate I think it should involve a bit more skill. As of right now it seems like its a dmging aura that u can fly with. INstead i think this would be more appropriate: Again, instead of jets, give him plasma wings as this would make his more "dragon-like". He deploys his plasma wings (doing AoE plasma dmg) and flies into the air with his wings and moves like you would on the ground (without the walking/running animations, replaced with flying) aka the free movement you mentioned. The ability is also toggleable like u said/wanted as well. He equips his melee weapon and can do combos and stuff. You can fly faster by using the sprint button which would use up stamina, and u can slide kick in the air (adding a bit of martial art type stuff), if this uses stamina to do this while on the ground and in the air, slide kicking would use up stamina as well. In addition to using melee, you can breath/shoot plasma balls/bolts or plasma breath (preferably balls or bolts since you already have melee for close range and breath would be close range as well, balls/bolts give you a long distance attack). Maybe they would be AoE when they reach their target destination? You would fire them like you do your gun (left mouse button (default)). The plasma balls would have travel time like the lanka and wouldnt be hit scan. Having the plasma balls have travel time adds a skill curve that some/most frames dont have because you have to account for target movement and such. Yes, i know that since the plasma balls would take away energy channeling and i am trying to figure out a way to have that as well. You wouldnt have ADS for the plasma balls since you would have blocking on the right mouse button (default). IF the balls do AoE dmg apon reaching the target having an ADS wouldnt really be necessary, and most people i see dont use channeling that much, so those to things may not even be needed. However, im still trying to think of a way to have these things in there so that nothing is taken away. To sum everything up; Winged Lancer: same concept just more added to it and some changes. Rising Dragon: same concept just more added to it and some changes. Adding wings instead of jets would make the frame much more inline with the "dragon" arch-type. However, if you REALLY want to have jets in there, you could compromise and have the plasma wings come from the jets. Anyway this is just some more feedback from me to make this the best frame ever. Sorry if its a bit confusing. If you have any questions about what i mean just quote this and ask. Hope you like my ideas Endrian:D Edited May 29, 2014 by Brawleee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zryel Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Omg I love it!!! Please DE, Please ME WANT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 ... Maybe something like this: . Please Endrian, give him back his wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ddragon117 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Now thats not too bad, I still think he would be fine without wings. Or even give him a synanda that resembles a dragon's wings or something. I have at least two ability ideas but I want Endrian to hear them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It's hard for me to picture a wingless dragon... Why do I have a deja-vu feeling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halphyos Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Well your post inspired mine a lot! https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/214425-17-04-2014warframe-concept-crystal-based-wyvern-themed-warframe-updated-matazirana-artneeded/page-5#entry2751524 I just changed the type of dragon and the element and voila. and added some cool abilities and stuffs Edited May 29, 2014 by Halphyos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrian Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Now thats not too bad, I still think he would be fine without wings. Or even give him a synanda that resembles a dragon's wings or something. I have at least two ability ideas but I want Endrian to hear them out. If Dragon is indeed implemented, his "normal" wings would most likely only be available as a syandana. I still want him to have skeletal/symbolic energy wings like in the concept for Rising Dragon, though, regardless of syandana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ddragon117 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Energy wings is a good one too, just look at Valkyr with her claws. Same deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavocWolf Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) If Dragon is indeed implemented, his "normal" wings would most likely only be available as a syandana. I still want him to have skeletal/symbolic energy wings like in the concept for Rising Dragon, though, regardless of syandana. I really love this frame idea. I spend a decent anmount of time over the day and while i play thinking how it can be better. My post a few posts up has some great ideas that I think would push the uniqueness of the frame farther. It even solves the wing issue. I probably sound annoying right now but i really love this idea and want it to be the best it can be. Edited May 30, 2014 by Brawleee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 If Dragon is indeed implemented, his "normal" wings would most likely only be available as a syandana. I still want him to have skeletal/symbolic energy wings like in the concept for Rising Dragon, though, regardless of syandana. Yup, most likely. That would be most appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synville Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 All of my yes. Every single one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GStonez Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Well this concept is quite cool but, when I see the word dragon, I think of high damage and speed since dragon can fly. So probably instead of tank, make him an attacker since warframe already have 2 tankers. Maybe the design colour/skin for dragon can be black/maroon/red and a lil bit less rough. If not he will look like a croc lol. But still, nice concept :) i think it can be used as a awakening or something like a once every hour move where you just go beast like a kind of rage mode style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I love when someone quotes posts from firsts two to four pages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraOuroboros Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I dreamt tonight that Dragon was added to the game! It was so cool and noone could stand up to his might! The only difference was that he had some weird demonic ALT-helmet with horns... I seriously want this Frame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 If you could try to draw it... Btw, did you know that dreams can show the future? Not specified future, but still sometimes they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)lll_Natsu_lll Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 When DE uses this idea i just hope they keep the concept the same, really don't want them to turn it into a female frame like they did with zephyr :/ i can't immerse myself in the game if I'm playing as a female, just feels weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter126 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 how bout name maybe Dracon? and one of the powers (mainly last cause i thought of a dragon one and this was my last power) ?)Oblivion- Summons a group of dragons to bring oblivion and darkness to enemies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter126 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) sorry i ask this but is it the power of dragon taming, dragon man or plasma Edited May 31, 2014 by Hunter126 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drejzer Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 how bout name maybe Dracon? and one of the powers (mainly last cause i thought of a dragon one and this was my last power) ?)Oblivion- Summons a group of dragons to bring oblivion and darkness to enemies sorry i ask this but is it the power of dragon taming, dragon man or plasma Err... what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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