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Holeypaladin

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Just an observation, and definitely not true in every single case.  Rhino is a beast of a warframe, and Mag is now weaker than Excalibur...

 

But I've noticed that most of the more powerful warframes currently are female.  As far as damage goes, the top damage dealers seem to be Mesa, Mirage, and Nova, in that order.

 

Valkyr has so much armor and health that she doesn't need shields, and Zephyr has the highest shields+health.

 

These warframes are all really awesome.  They set the standard that I'd like to see all of the warframes buffed to.

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I highly doubt gender has anything to do with how good the frames are, when modded and used well, any frame can be the best at certain parts of the game, it's up to the user to make them as powerful as they can be, mesa, mirage, nova and perhaps valkyr are simply the easiest frames to do that with as they require slightly less effort and commitment than some other frames do to reach their full potential, at least for now

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Limbo actually disappointed me... perhaps because he's really tricky to use.  To be honest it seems his cataclysm ability trolls the entire team since you can't shoot in or out of it.  And when he banishes enemies and I try to kill them, obviously my bullets go right through him.

 

He's a really interesting idea but... the way it's implemented makes it difficult to work with.

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Chroia

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Gender roles are an interesting thing.

 

Offense. Defense.

Which would you attribute to which?

 

Now let's think about it:

Imagine a standard medieval setting.

There are 2 characters holding off a band of raiders: The 'plater' holding the line and keeping the enemy's "agro", and the archer, holding back and popping heads in the safety afforded to them.

We have offense and defense. We have male, female.

Which is which?

 

 

(Not even going to touch on the Fate/ series.)

Also:

Hilde. Probably my aesthetically favorite Soul Calibur character.

 

 

Also also:

"Would you hit a girl?"

Having a female character be the one constantly taking hits is... somewhat problematic, on several levels.

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you can't buff all warframes to the 'standard' created by a frame, because it just wouldn't be possible.

No matter effective or not, all frames are essentially different, so you can't 'buff' them along the same line.

 

I do agree there are some frames which just need some more attention, but they shouldn't be buffed 'to be more like frame X or Y', that just doesn't work.

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Makya

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Also also:

"Would you hit a girl?"

Yes

 

Having a female character be the one constantly taking hits is... somewhat problematic, on several levels.

Sayrn has one of the highest EHPs in the game, Valkyr has the highest and is a Melee focused brawler frame.. How is she problematic?

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TheErebus.

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Also also:

"Would you hit a girl?"

Having a female character be the one constantly taking hits is... somewhat problematic, on several levels.

Yes, I would. But only if they are deserving of it. Same goes for men/boys.

 

And it's not really a problem, if the character isn't weak in any sense then it's fine.

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Yes, I would. But only if they are deserving of it. Same goes for men/boys.

 

And it's not really a problem, if the character isn't weak in any sense then it's fine.

Pretty much this. I would rather not feel the need to resort to hitting anyone, but if I have to I would happily hit a girl/woman. I see no way that it is different from hitting a boy/man.

I see no reason at all why women can't be frontline fighters like men.

I don't understand what this thread is trying to accomplish. There are a number of warframes that for whatever reason are "subpar". There are a bunch that a situationally strong or require more specialised builds. Some of these happen to be male, some female. DE can only look at so many frames at a time, I'm sure they will all get the buffs or changes they deserve.

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Just an observation, and definitely not true in every single case.  Rhino is a beast of a warframe, and Mag is now weaker than Excalibur...

 

But I've noticed that most of the more powerful warframes currently are female.  As far as damage goes, the top damage dealers seem to be Mesa, Mirage, and Nova, in that order.

 

Valkyr has so much armor and health that she doesn't need shields, and Zephyr has the highest shields+health.

 

These warframes are all really awesome.  They set the standard that I'd like to see all of the warframes buffed to.

^ mesa is one of the top damage dealers....but not the highest....

 

in order for mirage to deal high damage...she requires the weapons to do so....prism isnt that strong compared to other abilities.....

nova ill agree (only if you count antimatter....i dont count MP because it is a support ability)

 

zephyr having high shields and health has nothing to do with making her powerful.....valkyr with high armor and health doesnt really fall into the powerful realm either

 

can you be more clear about what powerful means to you? because i am not understanding this right now....having higher base stats doesnt make the warframe.....if you want to put utility into the equation of powerful frames then just keep reading

 

i feel like you fail to mention other frames as well....saryn and nyx are two of the more powerful ones in terms of their abilities

 

excal does more damage and covers more ground than mesa, nova, or mirages abilities (just talking about radial jav here)

 

volt has one of the most useful buffs for speed runs and a completely impenetrable shield (unlike frost globe which has health)

 

frost isnt entirely necessary but has more utility than mirage in defense (unless your a blind spammer)

 

limbo is pretty powerful because he can practically be untouched....he can take virtually no dmg and shoots who he can take down easily

 

loki disarm is extremely useful and powerful because it negates ridiculous gun damage, grenade dmg, and missile dmg....not to mention he can become invisible for a good 30 seconds and not take damage at all (if youre smart)

 

vauban can troll all enemies with his abilities....

 

ash bladestorm is significantly stronger in terms of damage compared to mesa and mirage....

 

 

 

also trinity used to be a powerful frame but now shes kind of only used for some heals...but mainly EV....i dont see her getting love in your post...you just conveniently posted about damage dealers...but slightly touched on support characters like valkyr and zephyr

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Chroia

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Valkyr says 'Hi'. 

Sayrn has one of the highest EHPs in the game, Valkyr has the highest and is a Melee focused brawler frame.. How is she problematic?

And are they the exception or the rule?

 

 

Yes, I would. But only if they are deserving of it. Same goes for men/boys.

 

And it's not really a problem, if the character isn't weak in any sense then it's fine.

Which is very impartial of you.

And ideally I agree.

But not everyone views it that way.

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every frame is designed around a theme, this gives the frame some weaknesses and some strengths on certain situations, either this be offense, defense or utility and a random gender
now frames come f-m-f-m-f-n, but the theme is a fixed one, de works like "ok now we'll make a rock themed frame" and since its male time, its gonna be male, if its female turn, its gonna be female, gender has really no impact on gameplay or a frame's powers, its just random|
also, since you wanted pure strength, the strongest defense frame is limbo,makes defense targets completely invulnerable
the strongest offense frame is volt, gives you like 321392136219321% bonus electic damage while protects you from enemy fire
SHOW ME A STRONGER FRAME THAN THIS

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Strongest utility frame is vauban vs trinity, but i'd take vauban cause the CC
i just showed you that in 3 "strenght" categories top frames are males

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And are they the exception or the rule?

There /isn't/ a rule. It's a mix. If you want to look for the 'most frail' frame.. You should look at Loki. A male. If you want to look at one of the top face roll tanks.. look at Rhino. A male. Warframe care little for gender.

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Which is very impartial of you.

And ideally I agree.

But not everyone views it that way.

Who cares? If they want to give special treatment to others, then they just contribute to the whole sexism idea that women aren't as strong as men. I know I sound like a brute or an uncaring &#!, but I'm not. If someone is deserving of a punch, I'll give it to them regardless of their race/sex/gender. 

 

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^ mesa is one of the top damage dealers....but not the highest....

 

in order for mirage to deal high damage...she requires the weapons to do so....prism isnt that strong compared to other abilities.....

nova ill agree (only if you count antimatter....i dont count MP because it is a support ability)

 

zephyr having high shields and health has nothing to do with making her powerful.....valkyr with high armor and health doesnt really fall into the powerful realm either

 

can you be more clear about what powerful means to you? because i am not understanding this right now....having higher base stats doesnt make the warframe.....if you want to put utility into the equation of powerful frames then just keep reading

 

i feel like you fail to mention other frames as well....saryn and nyx are two of the more powerful ones in terms of their abilities

 

excal does more damage and covers more ground than mesa, nova, or mirages abilities (just talking about radial jav here)

 

volt has one of the most useful buffs for speed runs and a completely impenetrable shield (unlike frost globe which has health)

 

frost isnt entirely necessary but has more utility than mirage in defense (unless your a blind spammer)

 

limbo is pretty powerful because he can practically be untouched....he can take virtually no dmg and shoots who he can take down easily

 

loki disarm is extremely useful and powerful because it negates ridiculous gun damage, grenade dmg, and missile dmg....not to mention he can become invisible for a good 30 seconds and not take damage at all (if youre smart)

 

vauban can troll all enemies with his abilities....

 

ash bladestorm is significantly stronger in terms of damage compared to mesa and mirage....

 

 

 

also trinity used to be a powerful frame but now shes kind of only used for some heals...but mainly EV....i dont see her getting love in your post...you just conveniently posted about damage dealers...but slightly touched on support characters like valkyr and zephyr

I did not know excaliber can one shot stalker with javelin I know saryin can 1 shot stalker with miasma tho

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Just an observation, and definitely not true in every single case.  Rhino is a beast of a warframe, and Mag is now weaker than Excalibur...

 

But I've noticed that most of the more powerful warframes currently are female.  As far as damage goes, the top damage dealers seem to be Mesa, Mirage, and Nova, in that order.

 

Valkyr has so much armor and health that she doesn't need shields, and Zephyr has the highest shields+health.

 

These warframes are all really awesome.  They set the standard that I'd like to see all of the warframes buffed to.

Ok wait

 

No mention of saryn?

 

Ash destroys every female frame except maybe Saryn and Nova in terms of damage

 

Frost can actually output a surprisingly high amount of damage but its ineffective as far as elements....

 

In mags case

 

She has polarize that destroys corps and corrupted and gives her a shield

 

Crush against corpus is actually really strong against corpus and viable on corrupted but not really amazing

 

Also the infinite shields she gets...

 

Valkyr has super high armor because she doesnt have shields

 

Theres a cause and effect there

 

 

Theres also utility thats not being looked at....

 

Loki and vauban trivialize enemies

 

Volt and frost are the top tier position holders

 

Nekros has soul punch

 

Theres just more than damage to it

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