gkuoni Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) As the title explains: do you think Mag is Over Powered or Under Powered (or just right) I'm doing this because I want to know what others think of Mag and her scaling with other enemies. Personally I find her overpowered against Corpus and Corrupted but terrible against infested and ok against Grineer Edit: I don't mean it as she needs to be changed, I mean it rather as how you use Mag, what you focus on, etc. Edit2: and as to common request I'll add a 'just right' Edit3: Try to focus the discussion more to: 'What of her abilities could be changed so she wouldn't just be excellent against corpus and really good against the corrupted, instead also have viability against the other classes?' Edited December 28, 2014 by gkuoni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyssa Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 We don't have a "just right" option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyxCrab Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 When it comes to the Corpus, MAG is not really op in the sense that she breaks the game. She wrecks them, but that doesn't make her op. Same with her vs the corrupted. She's not a damage dealer there except for when the corrupted bring in their drones, but her pull works well. Infested and grineer she can't really deal damage with her shield polarize, so she focuses on pulling them and marking the heavier units with bullet attractor to kill them faster. I personally think she, as Llyssa said, is just right. She's in a good place ATM, no need to change her any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkuoni Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 We don't have a "just right" option? I meant it more in the sense of how you use her and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryshok Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) We don't have a "just right" option? ^^ +1 this is the right answer Every frame (except Limbo -.-) can be built to be OP or UP its all about how you mod to fit your playstyle Edited December 28, 2014 by Kryshok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyssa Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I meant it more in the sense of how you use her and such. Oh, then the answer is OP. Everything is OP when I use it, and it's fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
es.iiden Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I meant it more in the sense of how you use her and such. thats subjective isnt it? the right build and weapon setup can effectively turn anyone including mag into an absolute monster and vice-versa. she has her strengths and weaknesses so i dont see how she's OP in that matter. She slaughters corpus because her powers are more attuned to doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elenortirie Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 honestly in my opinion Mag is one of those phew well internally balanced warframes the only thing I can tell bad about her is that grineer have no shields to deplete and same with infested.... [though infested usually dies from pull] and that crush in late game is kinda useless. on mid level with nearly +100% power strenght it doesn't even clear grineer trash.... so If I was to tinker in her at all I'd point crush as stuff to tinker on. but except that its good frame - situational but good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuva_Kebab Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Mag is a shining, glorious example of what a balanced frame looks like. Oh, then the answer is OP. Everything is OP when I use it, and it's fantastic. [EGO INTENSIFIES] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 One trick pony, but a diamond one. Shield Polarize works wonder against corpus, pull decent CC. other two skills for are useless most of the time, the damage of ultimate is not that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FrostByte- Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 imo mag is the most useless warframe in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinDevil Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 One trick pony, but a diamond one. Shield Polarize works wonder against corpus, pull decent CC. other two skills for are useless most of the time, the damage of ultimate is not that great. This. Shield polarize is where it's at. Otherwise there is no real point in bringing her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Like most other frames, she has a couple of skills that work really well vs certain enemies, and a couple that were designed by the interm's pet hamster. Her base stats are pretty average, so she comes over as a mostly passible, not really good for much later on unless it's corpus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaerieBanshee Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 She used to be excellent against anything with shields. Now she's even better after Shield Transference. It's actually my favourite augment mod at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarash2110 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 i look at it as if she is giving up her ability to be useful against 2 of the game factions to be amazing against 1 and decent against 1, at least with shield polarize. the other skills are fine on all factions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryshok Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 It still comes down as to how you use her abilities. Example using her in a defense mission with a Vaughban, with Vaughbans vortex running use Mag and pull to yank most of the enemies at the vortex for quick kills. So as with any frame it is all in how you use her to begin with. that being said if you're looking to use her as a solo frame she has certain missions shes built for and others it is a pain, but same could be said for 90% of the other frames as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernkastal Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Highly specialized, a corpus killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosyn Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 One trick pony, but a diamond one. Is it named Buttstallion? Curse you Handsome Jack!!! But anyway.....Mag's good. I haven't used her much ( I have other frames to rank 1st)but she doesn't let me down when I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtZefar Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 With the Syndicate mod she can survive against Corpus for a long time due to that you can keep buffing up that extra shield. Also because they don't have that many explosive weapons either. But going against any other race than Corpus is just not worth it. Maybe Void though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidaku Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Mag extrelmely powerful vs corpus Usless and underpowered vs other factions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyxCrab Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Mag extrelmely powerful vs corpus Usless and underpowered vs other factions she's not really useless against the other factions. Sure, she may not be a huge damage dealer, but she has enough utility from her other first 3 abilities to make her worthwhile (pull for CC, Shield Polarize to keep ally shields up, Bullet Attractor to single out heavier units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letir Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 She is a very strong, scaling nuker vs Corpus. She is decent nuker vs Corrupted. She is decent support vs Grineer. She is weak support vs Infested. The only good power of Mag is Shield Polariztion. Without shields she can only help with Pull and Bullet Attractor, which isn't best moves in the game. OP as shield nuker, UP in everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elenortirie Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Mag extrelmely powerful vs corpus Usless and underpowered vs other factions nah she's good against corrupted too especially considering orokin drones giving shields to unshielded enemies...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) I guess on a skill-by-skill basis: Pull- Not really sure if it needs damage at all, and it does have trolling potential due to how easy it is to spam, but overall I wouldn't call it broken OP. I do wish it pulled enemies towards you more neatly though, instead of throwing them wherever Shield Polarize- Definitely the best ability in her arsenal. Can potentially wreck the Corpus and Corrupted (as well as restore some shields to boot), but it's nearly useless against the Grineer and Infested and isn't always guaranteed to wipe everything off the map, so I'd say it's fine Bullet Attractor- Pretty underwhelming, not so much because it's a bad skill, it just suffers the curse of being a single-target skill in a game that focuses heavily on mobs of enemies. It doesn't help that newer bosses have specific weakpoints that render BA nearly worthless against them. It could use the ability to jump between targets, or a scaling explosion to get some reliable AoE out of it Crush- Not quite as underwhelming as BA but it still does suffer the issue of all pure damage skills in that it falls off eventually. It's also not that impressive by comparison to other damage-oriented ultimates either. The upcoming augment mods may improve it, but to honest I wouldn't mind a complete mechanic overhaul since at it's core it's a lackluster "press 4 to kill" button. Although the visuals are pretty cool. So in short, her 1 and 2 are fairly balanced, and her 3 and 4 are functional but do feel a bit outdated and could use some alternations to make them more fun and effective to use. She could use some changes/improvements here and there but I wouldn't say she's in desperate need of a buff or nerf. Edited December 28, 2014 by Paradoxbomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone154769 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 With the Shield polarize augment, Mag is god mode Vs Corpus and Corrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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