[DE]Rebecca 187,618 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Endless and infinite Tower IV Void Keys within Syndicate Offerings is something we offered with many iterations of the Syndicate system. There is no doubt this was used by many (recent 30-page PSA thread + a lot of us here as well), but we are making changes. The ramifications of the initial access caused skews in progression/difficulty and the exposure of massive loops of 'perpetual motion' of earning/spending Standing. Please cast your vote in this poll to assist in the pending decision. Please note Keys will be removed (coming in 15.9) until this poll concludes and we discuss results. Which Offering would you like to see? 1) Cycle in 1 x TIV Key for 15K Standing. Mission type will follow existing assignment.2) Cycle in 3 x Random Void Keys, 1 x guaranteed T3 or T4 for 25K Standing. Sabotage Keys will included in the Random option. Poll ends Friday, January 9th at 10 AM. Link to post Share on other sites
Halser 3,561 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) things were fine the way they were, not going to choose between two similar 'screw yourself, player' alternatives. Edited January 7, 2015 by Halser Link to post Share on other sites
sekushiiandee 2,847 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) is it truly random? or is it random as in prime parts in the loot table kind of random? or natural talent vs T4 keys in interception rewards kind of random? things were fine the way they were. ^ in all honesty they were not fine because the keys were a tad bit too cheap granted they just increased the pricing per T4 key to 12x their normal value im not entirely sure if they understand what balancing means....having ONE and just one T4 key at 5k rep is more reasonable imo than 15k.....but thats just me not going to choose between two similar 'screw yourself, player' alternatives. ^ that i complete agree with....they totally screwed us with the pricing Edited January 7, 2015 by sekushiiandee Link to post Share on other sites
Sudri 373 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 This is actually a difficult choice.. Link to post Share on other sites
Absens 2,592 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 2nd one obviously.I like the chace of getting t3 keys. Link to post Share on other sites
Dualstar 4,098 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) I gotta say, those prices seem a bit steep. Regardless, ill take a random key bundle since we need more than just T4 keys. And actually, why would anyone vote for the first one? I dont see how selling the exact same stuff at a 15x markup is an attractive option versus a chance at non-T4 keys that we might need for things. Edited January 7, 2015 by Dualstar Link to post Share on other sites
armedpoop 6,468 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Id love to be able to have a guarantee of one key at the very least.I havent actually used standing for any keys till today, I only JUST noticed that they were 5 packs! I figured they were just 1 for 5k which even still seemed cheap. Edited January 7, 2015 by armedpoop Link to post Share on other sites
AdFinitum 943 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I think many players would agree that we would be very glad if random meant an even chance for any key type ( not e.g. 0.1% for a Sabotage key ). Link to post Share on other sites
PsiWarp 8,101 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Hmm. Instant access to a T4 mission, or take your chances with 3 random keys... Link to post Share on other sites
Alyzia 602 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Whoa that crazy the price range are so horrible did u even try -_- or atleast ask our opinion before make only 2 "horrible" choice for us to killourself first u gave everyone 5k for 5 key and now 15k for 1 t4 key and 25k for 3 random key so another deal with S#&$ty RNG again? a bit much don't you think? Atleast 10k for 1 chooseable key would be more reason than this really... Judging from the void drop chance that player find it and post here i dun think u gonna make it equal chance to get sabotage RIGHT? we probably get bunch of t1 and t2 and full of useless key even guarantee 1x t3 or t4 probably a interception for sure! Edited January 7, 2015 by VioletX Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSabre 80 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 the first option sounds the best, because less rng Link to post Share on other sites
Jahadaya 4,971 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I was hoping they would be replaced by R5's... Link to post Share on other sites
--Q--JoeTheBanshee 2,056 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) How about 3 random for 15K? -- This is a decent price for getting 3 completely random keys. and 3 guaranteed T4 keys, with their types random, for 25K? -- This is also a decent price for getting T4 keys easily. Edited January 7, 2015 by -CM-JoeTheBanshee Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The second option sounds good to me. It means every person will have potentially equal access to all keys regardless of the syndicate they have chosen, and also that the newer Sabotage keys will be included in said rewards. While I'm not much a lover of the RNG that will be behind this system, I believe these two benefits I mention outweigh that. Link to post Share on other sites
Deckers 484 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 This is a terrible idea. I now have no interest in ever purchasing the keys in syndicates with those prices. Link to post Share on other sites
Xalev 487 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I appreciate the inclusion of sabotage, and the feeling that, with it being random, that there isnt just an infinite source of keys being chewed at by a syndicate. Link to post Share on other sites
Hopakkiin 503 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 It is a great idea to give out random keys.Thank you for showing us that the Syndicates are also great friends with RNGesus, Lotus. Jk. I love to have some RNG, since I have enough T4 Keys for a while. Link to post Share on other sites
Nydaewyr 29 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 secondary, please secondary option is just awesome ! Link to post Share on other sites
spybot121 43 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Guys the only reason i chose to vote for a single key is because there is too much RNG in the game at least one thing should be certain Link to post Share on other sites
CRCGamer 711 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 If those are the only two options, the second is preferable. However, considering it is random it may well not be worth the 25K entry fee if the two other keys are both T1's. Link to post Share on other sites
xNegikunx 440 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'd rather take the 3 random keys. Chance at getting t3 and sabotage keys is more worth than a T4 key which I can easily get from Interception. Link to post Share on other sites
ngrazer 2,594 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 If the keys are going to be as 'random' as prime parts in Void - then no, thanks, I'm choosing 1st option. Link to post Share on other sites
kubbi 5,463 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Im inclined to go for the second option because of the sabotage keys. But why does there have to be a chance for sabotage keys only? I want to go for option 1 and buy my keys for 15k rep. But why can't we buy sabotage? Why make them so rare? Its not fair. That aside the prices are outragous. 15k for only 1 key? Or 3 random for 25k? Gotta be a joke. 2nd edit: Deleting relevant complaints is not cool. Edited January 8, 2015 by kubbi Link to post Share on other sites
Fruchtpudding 1,111 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Neither. Give us balanced guaranteed access to all void keys finally, I'm sick of stupid RNG walls on top of the ridiculous grind walls. Edit: Deleting criticism shows you haven't learned anything from Viver. That post had more than twice the approval of the OP. The community hates what you're doing, instead of censoring that how about listening for once? The rate at which you keep making terrible decisions astounds me. Edited January 8, 2015 by Fruchtpudding Link to post Share on other sites
thelastpwnr99 2,094 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I have no preference as I never bought keys. This is crazy stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
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