Banshee Sonar 'duration' & Turrets

[Arcalane]

This is annoying to explain, but I'll try anyway. The Sonar power has an essentially indefinite duration when used based on the targets you pinged; so long as one of the things it highlights remains alive it can't be used again.

 

Obviously, this has problems when one of those things happens to be a turret that is in the retracted invincible state that you can't pop out of said state because all of the cameras nearby are dead.

Edited May 9, 2013 by Arcalane

[Thingofmyth]

This is hard to explain, but I'll try anyway. The Sonar power has an essentially indefinite duration when used based on the targets you pinged; so long as one of the things it highlights remains alive it can't be used again.

 

this can have problems when one of the effected enemies is a turret that is in the retracted invincible state and you can't pop it out of said state because all of the cameras nearby are dead.

the bold text is edited. I suggest you use this edit instead of the original post as it seems a little less ranty. =)

Edited May 9, 2013 by Thingofmyth

[Shion963]

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/28696-banshees-sonar-power-in-use-bug/

 

I've already sent in a support ticket

Shion963
May 01 11:39 (EDT)

Banshee's Sonar power gets locked after being used in corpus tilesets containing a security camera and/or turret, and prevents any future use in that mission with a "Power In Use" message, similar to the one that appears while attempting to cast an ability while casting that power's animation is running or while its duration has not expired yet (e.g. Silence).

Sonar can be repeatedly used while in Corpus Tileset boss rooms, open areas without any security cameras and/or turrets in range (assumption), and any other tileset (Grineer asteroid base, Infested corpus tiles without Corpus enemy generation).

 

And here's their email response:

DEJames (WARFRAME Support)
May 03 13:55 (EDT)

Hi Shion963,

Thanks for the bug report! The dev team is already aware of the issue and we'll have it fixed as soon as possible, but I'll follow up if we have any additional questions.

Be sure to check out the Update notes posted in the forums to see when this bug is fixed (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/forum/3-update-build-notes/).

Thanks again for the report- we really appreciate it!
DEJames

 

AFAIK the DEvs are working on fixing it. Seriously hope it'll be fixed in one of the future hotfixes.

[Arcalane]

Good to know. Here's hoping they get it sorted out soon!

[Shion963]

I try as far as I could to not use Sonar whenever there's Corpus enemy generation in play.

 

Which leaves me with spamming Sonic Boom or Sound Quake, latter of which doesn't improve other player's views of Banshee players at all. :/

 

 

Folks it's not like all of us like to just spam Sound Quake, it's just that sometimes we plain can't use Sonar at all.

[Kattefjaes]

the bold text is edited. I suggest you use this edit instead of the original post as it seems a little less ranty. =)

 

Not only is this incredibly patronising, but it's poor advice, as his grasp of English seems markedly better than yours. By the way, since this seems to be patronising hour, it's affected, not effected, in this context. Have another day.

 

OP: Yep, it's a royal pain in the space potato- but as someone said above, they're working on it.

[Thingofmyth]

Not only is this incredibly patronising, but it's poor advice, as his grasp of English seems markedly better than yours. By the way, since this seems to be patronising hour, it's affected, not effected, in this context. Have another day.

 

OP: Yep, it's a royal pain in the space potato- but as someone said above, they're working on it.

Not my fault the devs made a section just for whining about not being able to get stuff. It sounded extreamly whiny to me so I mad a suggestion on how to make it sound like he's B#*@#ing less. Don't correct me I know what i'm saying ;p it doesn't hurt to try and help people get more replies.

In the end it's not like sonar is even useful if you're any good at this game.

[Shion963]

In the end it's not like sonar is even useful if you're any good at this game.

 

Sir I'll have you know that I greatly resent this statement.

[FoxnEagle]

I have been following another topic about ability combos. If they could get Mag's Bullet attractor and Sonar to have the bullets be attracted to their weak spots... OVER POWERED FTW. Even without it, sonar is still nice, even if you memorize where to hit, like Ancients arms, it is still nice to have more of a target from sonar.

[Kattefjaes]

It sounded extreamly whiny to me so I mad a suggestion on how to make it sound like he's B#*@#ing less. Don't correct me I know what i'm saying ;p

 

I'm very glad that someone does.

[Thingofmyth]

Sir I'll have you know that I greatly resent this statement.

Honestly I can solo pluto just using sound wave with my flow and steamline maxed =) talk about OP

[Shion963]

Honestly I can solo pluto just using sound wave with my flow and steamline maxed =) talk about OP

 

Sound Quake being an uber does not mean that Sonar isn't useful. It's a lot less useful while playing solo for sure, as you'll still have to manually aim and shoot at the weakpoints.

 

People I play with appreciates it more when I use Sonar and have the team kill everything faster compared to just blitzing it spamming Ubers.

[Thingofmyth]

Sound Quake being an uber does not mean that Sonar isn't useful. It's a lot less useful while playing solo for sure, as you'll still have to manually aim and shoot at the weakpoints.

 

People I play with appreciates it more when I use Sonar and have the team kill everything faster compared to just blitzing it spamming Ubers.

With banshee's speed combined with it's range, sound wave is quite superior to sonar even when in a group of rushers. the only use for sonar that I have seen is on boss fights.

Edited May 10, 2013 by Thingofmyth

[Shion963]

With banshee's speed combined with it's range, sound wave is quite superior to sonar even when in a group of rushers. the only use for sonar that I have seen is on boss fights.

 

Haven't been in a group of rushers for a long time, I usually play with a nice team that actually prefers to use their equipped guns instead of spamming ubers all day err'day.

[Thingofmyth]

Haven't been in a group of rushers for a long time, I usually play with a nice team that actually prefers to use their equipped guns instead of spamming ubers all day err'day.

If it works why not use it? It's way better than sonar if you're in the middle of an ambush. Honestly I can get a group of four guys to go through a pluto mission without even firing a shot (or using an ability) so there isn't even a point in having guns or things that can damage enemies, they could turn this into a racing game if they wanted to.

[Shion963]

If it works why not use it? It's way better than sonar if you're in the middle of an ambush. Honestly I can get a group of four guys to go through a pluto mission without even firing a shot (or using an ability) so there isn't even a point in having guns or things that can damage enemies, they could turn this into a racing game if they wanted to.

 

Yes sir you are absolutely right. I will strip all of the mods on my useless weapons post haste, and consign them to the rubbish pile ASAP. I'll only equip my Banshee, Frost and Volt with Reach, Streamline, Flow, Focus, Rush, Marathon, Quick-rest, and their respective Ubers. Toss away all manner of team play and strategic thinking, "Keep Calm And Spam 4".

 

Now excuse me, dear sir. I have a few planets to Uber.

 

 

 

Seriously and honestly though, ubers are good panic-buttons. For when "you're in the middle of an ambush", so to speak. Spamming it is a viable strategy, but just not a smart one as I'd prefer to play at a reasonable pace, and use tactics that actually utilises my brain instead of just repeatedly nuking everything.

 

But to each their own, one man's trash is another man's treasure, and all that proverbial talk. Have a good day! o/

Edited May 10, 2013 by Shion963

[Thingofmyth]

Yes sir you are absolutely right. I will strip all of the mods on my useless weapons post haste, and consign them to the rubbish pile ASAP. I'll only equip my Banshee, Frost and Volt with Reach, Streamline, Flow, Focus, Rush, Marathon, Quick-rest, and their respective Ubers. Toss away all manner of team play and strategic thinking, "Keep Calm And Spam 4".

 

Now excuse me, dear sir. I have a few planets to Uber.

 

 

 

Seriously and honestly though, ubers are good panic-buttons. For when "you're in the middle of an ambush", so to speak. Spamming it is a viable strategy, but just not a smart one as I'd prefer to play at a reasonable pace, and use tactics that actually utilises my brain instead of just repeatedly nuking everything.

 

But to each their own, one man's trash is another man's treasure, and all that proverbial talk. Have a good day! o/

I guess I will have to record some gameplay to show you what I mean.