(PSN)Draconis1981 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 ok so brass tacks here it costs. 210k credits, 7 orokin cells, 4 neurodes, 2 morphics, 1900 polymer bundle, 850 ferrite and 300 alloy plate to make with a total construction time of 4 days. has it set warframe on fire? NO Its a slash damage weapon, not incredible, high recoil, long reload and the best thing going for it status, yay. The only use is infested but they are still bad for the time and cost. for what they are this cost is a joke. the recoil makes them almost unusable, just go use them and try to give me a op build for these horrible guns that doesn't involve 7 forma. please do something about this weapon for its cost its a waste of time and no one is going to use this as a go to gun. As it stands its horrible and broken. The akjagara needs some damage and love to make them anything even vaguely usable. Kill the recoil, sort out the reload, give them some heavy damage or something but really do something please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It is indeed a disturbing trend that was continued with Ripkas... they're disappointingly average and have a similarly expensive/convoluted build cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FV-Metheria Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 If you had a Nekros, you'd love these babies. Take a look into its special properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Draconis1981 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 I have been playing for a while and yes I know about the cutting enemies into to halves gives two loads of loot on desecrate. I'm still not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trieuazn0 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 pistole also has a built in 100% multishot. which is nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Draconis1981 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) I took them into an infested match at rank 30 and barely scratched the chargers. Even with forma it can hardly be described as a game changer. Edited March 23, 2015 by (PS4)Draconis1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted.Oreo Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 You seem to forget you can mod it to proc viral, which cut enemies hp into half, and with the addition of bleed procs it can kill them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Draconis1981 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 I have to mod it that specifically to make it useable. Ah well this changes everything......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Draconis1981 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) every gun I have ever modded uses multi shot, damage and the a choice of corrosive, viral, gas, blast etc then and / or crit and/ or status. I have never seen a gun so expensive and so useless straight off the 30 rank. Edited March 23, 2015 by (PS4)Draconis1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted.Oreo Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Then what about Soma Prime? Paris Prime? Dread? Synapse etc, you have to mod them specifically for crit, what's the difference if you mod it for status? and i really don't know how the hell you modded it that made it useless on rank 30's i go against lvl 50+ and it's killing just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Draconis1981 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 recoil is bad, the spread is horrible with multi shot and finally the accuracy is hopeless. It is a close range gun at best and shotgun at worst. I'm not saying you cant bring it up with effort but really this is a poor weapon for its cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted.Oreo Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I ain't going to say it's cost isn't high cause well it is, spread is not bad, recoil is manageable and if you are having trouble you can put on steady hands - that's currently my build Seeker, Frost Bite, Pistol Pestilence, Steady Hands, Barrel Diffusion, Lethal Torrent, Hornet Strike and Maim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I ain't going to say it's cost isn't high cause well it is, spread is not bad, recoil is manageable and if you are having trouble you can put on steady hands - that's currently my build Seeker, Frost Bite, Pistol Pestilence, Steady Hands, Barrel Diffusion, Lethal Torrent, Hornet Strike and Maim None of what you said disproves that the "cost isn't high" since, factually, it is the most expensive gun to build in Warfarme, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi-kun Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'm keeping the AkJagara. Might need it to build another weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirin9 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) r u kidding. these beasts r quite good. without any forma you can bring it up to about 1,5 dmg a single shot. with that fire rate and the multishot you mostly throw five rounds at your target... with cor dmg this one shots all normal grineer on every planet/node. if aimed well its a good midrange weapon. and damn, it feels and sounds really cool. Edited March 23, 2015 by kirin9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Draconis1981 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 I like the reload animation and yes it sounds cool, but any gun that needs steady hands when it costs this much out the gate? its a wasted slot. We should be able to focus on dps. And its slash damage 1,5 dmg a single shot with a reduction to fire rate after the last u16 update this weapon is worse not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZzVinniezZ Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 overall the gun has insane recoil, it need to nerf recoil down a bit, the damage is pretty good for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirin9 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 why complaining about recoil... its manageable get used to it. i do not use steady hands. just pull down after every shot very quick. its abou compemnsate the recoil by your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Draconis1981 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) because its just one of the things that wrong with the most expensive in the game. And yes I have been playing long enough to be able to self compensate for this irritation but thanks. Edited March 23, 2015 by (PS4)Draconis1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneu Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Build pure Viral/add punchtrough, 3-4 shot heavies on Law of Retribution (with 4x Corrosive Projection of course, although it only took 5 shots with 3 auras). Plus the gibbing is so satisfying. I will say that the recoil could use a tiny reduction though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperhill Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Have akjagara... without forma and only catalyst its capable to easily shread trough anything i thus far was able to face. I have idea what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suthurn Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 r u kidding. these beasts r quite good. without any forma you can bring it up to about 1,5 dmg a single shot. with that fire rate and the multishot you mostly throw five rounds at your target... with cor dmg this one shots all normal grineer on every planet/node. if aimed well its a good midrange weapon. and damn, it feels and sounds really cool. with max mods you can bring just about any weapon up good enough to take on the planet level missions. my lex prime does around 2800 dmg a shot and is pin-point accurate at the farthest possible ranges my vaykor marelok does around 5700 dmg a shot, but it starts losing accuracy much passed maybe 30 meters. just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Draconis1981 Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 once again the build is not the problem. I have many high forma builds over many weapons. I've been here a long time. This is not the issue. I can MAKE these guns good, sure but I feel that this is the problem. For the most expensive guns in the game period they should be monster out of the box. Make this type of weapon mastery rank 10 or 15. Start looking at weapon restrictions for low rank players. just like it was when I started ahem soma etc. Give us high rank guys some value for our credits and grind to get this, not so, monster weapon built. I want to see some end game content. Most of all if your going to charge us this amount for a weapon like this make it completely worth it with no bugs, kinks, recoil issues etc. OK is not Ok for this sort of expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MrNishi Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Most expensive Resource wise, excluding Clan research But technically Clan Tech weapons are the most expensive if you include building a Dojo and all the resources required for each prerequisite....especially if you do it solo (I did all research labs solo...a lot of time to even get labs built and you cannot rush research for prerequisites) Platinum wise-Soma, Ballistica, Vectis, and Buzlok are more expensive. But I agree they slightly miss the mark for the required weapon sacrifices. -Panthers takes the cake for most underwhelming as I would prefer the Miter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeSorcerer Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 ok so brass tacks here it costs. 210k credits, 7 orokin cells, 4 neurodes, 2 morphics, 1900 polymer bundle, 850 ferrite and 300 alloy plate to make with a total construction time of 4 days. has it set warframe on fire? NO Its a slash damage weapon, not incredible, high recoil, long reload and the best thing going for it status, yay. The only use is infested but they are still bad for the time and cost. for what they are this cost is a joke. the recoil makes them almost unusable, just go use them and try to give me a op build for these horrible guns that doesn't involve 7 forma. please do something about this weapon for its cost its a waste of time and no one is going to use this as a go to gun. As it stands its horrible and broken. The akjagara needs some damage and love to make them anything even vaguely usable. Kill the recoil, sort out the reload, give them some heavy damage or something but really do something please. You can buy it with plat. They are making grinding harder so you are more inclined to pay with plat. Its not more expensive then other new weapons. This is all I can say about it. It should be better though. I havent tried it but its numbers look weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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