faustias Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) The syndicate system is borderline p2w, especially given the power and health regens. Orokin reactors and catalysts are rationed hardcore, they are always needed for frame and weapon progression yet they put them on the syndicate rank system. Blatant and i guarantee this caused a massive increase in cash shop sales of those items. but now you can only do it once. if you want to up-and-down with any syndicate for some reason (like new OP weapon on a syndicate but you're -2 Rank), you can only clear the offerings once. Unless, I miss something about this. Your only problem now is dealing with daily rep cap. Edited March 27, 2015 by faustias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo58 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 No it isn't... This forum is just recently getting filled with trolls and whiners from other trash games forums it seems, like LoL, STO, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionntan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 but now you can only do it once. if you want to up-and-down with any syndicate for some reason (like new OP weapon on a syndicate but you're -2 Rank), you can only clear the offerings once. Unless, I miss something about this. Copy & Paste for clarity: Syndicates no longer require multiple sacrifices if players drop from a higher tier to a lower one. Players will only need to make one sacrifice ever when moving between tiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contiguous Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Op wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindle99 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 but now you can only do it once. if you want to up-and-down with any syndicate for some reason (like new OP weapon on a syndicate but you're -2 Rank), you can only clear the offerings once. Unless, I miss something about this. Your only problem now is dealing with daily rep cap. True they did seem to fix it, it was there for a while though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zer01990 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 warframe is pay-to-gain-faster and it is not problem for me also you could have like 6 syandanas this year for no plat Problem are recent nerfs,afk timer that steal your mana and similiar qality of live downgrades Now i really want just to afk-farm but it is result of this farm-nerfing that does not seems to ever stop i think DE needs to take one long looong step back take 1 huge breath and think about 2 minutes about ''is it really best idea to constantly nerf things and make ppl sad without fixing game-breaking bugs'' I think nerfing e-gate was good thing but nerfing all game modes , many builds n S#&$? for example I can not play nyx anymore because of afk timer some time ago it was cool deffense frame and now She droped from top-tier into low-tier with ember this is resulting in this: ppl want:loki,trinity,vauban and for survival add nekro leaving all frames ingame behind not because they were bad but because they were nerfed on the GROOOOOOOUND Wait, What? Bro, the fact that you think Nyx is low tier because of the AFK system is really, really sad. If the AFK system is making it hard for you, that doesnt mean Nyx is bad, it means YOU are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustias Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) True they did seem to fix it, it was there for a while though. yeah... sucks to be those players who went up-and-down with syndicates and rushed the sacrifices with plat purchases. looking on the bright side, it was there not too long. glad DE changed it to one-time sacrifice only. Edited March 27, 2015 by faustias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitchrea Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think you have no idea what Pay to Win is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)bra1ndead101 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 OP, try some of the real PtW games first then come back to Warframe. It seems people get spoiled by DE:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) OP, try some of the real PtW games first then come back to Warframe. It seems people get spoiled by DE:( True. They seem to have NO clue what they are talking about. Try World of Tanks/World of Warplanes, LOL or ANYTHING by Ubisoft these days if you want to see REAL Pay2Win. Pay2Win in WARFRAME????? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL @OP I do not see Warframe going that way. Warframe is Pay4Convenience (That SO needs to go into Internet slang somewhere) Edited March 27, 2015 by Kalenath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntpuffer Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It's always been this way and it's the reason most people complain about nerfs and stuff. Sadly the other half of the community that 'loves' their 1000 hour grind for a single frame always have smartass remarks to it. So they got what they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X5934-078FR1 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Those who are able to, should definitely pay, at least out of appreciation and support. If ever you see a game turning towards pay-to-win, part of the reason is most likely because of too many parasites and not enough supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechNexus Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Welp, time to officially add "pay to win" to the list of terms that are meaningless due to people overusing the term without knowing what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustias Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Welp, time to officially add "pay to win" to the list of terms that are meaningless due to people overusing the term without knowing what it means. like those trending stuffs on tumblr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DanteVincent Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Let me clear something for you, every time we pay for something in life, we win something, even when gambling, we pay for the thrill, wherever there is money, there is something to be won. Now I'm sorry the DE staff and rest of eastern civilization are not communists or slaves who work free of charge for you. Also, everything some1 pay for in this game can be acquired by a non paying person at an obvious slower pace, and that's what you gain: Time. You pay for time in this game, because presumably you already lost some in real life to earn this very money. If you're not satisfied, go 'lose' more time in real life to be able to 'lose' less time in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_One Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 i read your post and i still say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Knight Raime Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Only way I could see WF being a pay to win is if the prime frames/weapons are vastly better then their normal counterparts. And while both nova and volt prime have broken the trend DE set with prime frames you can still farm to get these. Pay to win only applies when you can't get said OP item without buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 There's no "win" to pay for in Warframe. You can buy all the stuff you want in the game, but none of it will affect me as a fellow player. There's no win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painovoimaton Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Well, you can get plat by trading mods and prime parts, which are free. So if you trade enough, you can buy those syandanas et cetera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH_PRIME Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Even if it WAS tied to Market only Syandanas (Which its NOT) all Market Syandanas are CHEAP and the plat needed can easily be made by trading mods and prime parts, you don't need to pay a CENT for this game if you really don't want to..Syndicate Syans, Void Trader Syans,Helmets can also be used and are regularly up FREE as alerts...Here's an idea! spend 5 mins researching this stuff before posting huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuk1ya Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 No! :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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