Hildebert Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Title is self explanitory. Just proposing the chance to unlock colors for your warframe as a possible log-in reward, one color at a time. It frustrated me that the color extension pack was so expensive and this would bring in an alternative without undermining the cash-shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raejin99 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I would love the option to unlock all the shades of a specific color for a cheaper price. Maybe 10 plat or so? dunno what would be good for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced- Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) No. They need to make money, you're already even in terms of power with the payed users. Customization is exactly how they should do it. Customization = Pay. Also, the color pack is $5. $5 is expensive since when? Edited January 15, 2013 by Bboy500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyboi Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 since you where like me and have no job and are living with your mom because you are having trouble with getting a job and you feel depressedish so you go online and kill stuff to make you feel better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgas Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) No. They need to make money, you're already even in terms of power with the payed users. Customization is exactly how they should do it. Customization = Pay. Also, the color pack is $5. $5 is expensive since when? For me personally it's not the point that it's $5, it's that they could make skins and sell them instead. However, limiting colours seems to just be greedy. Skins I can understand, colours I can not. I think that they need to seriously think through their business model and how they're going to gain money from this, because there are some problems now. I have a hard time seeing how this game will survive after the open beta. Edited January 15, 2013 by Gilgas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced- Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) since you where like me and have no job and are living with your mom because you are having trouble with getting a job and you feel depressedish so you go online and kill stuff to make you feel better... Well, then live without gettign special colors. You dont need them. You want them. Get $5 and pay the developers, or live without em. It costs money to make games. For me personally it's not the point that it's $5, it's that they could make skins and sell them instead. However, limiting colours seems to just be greedy. Skins I can understand, colours I can not. I think that they need to seriously think through their business model and how they're going to gain money from this, because there are some problems now. I have a hard time seeing how this game will survive after the open beta. What? Why not do both? It isnt greedy. It's character customization! This is how the proper way to do a F2P game is sopposted to be. How do you expect them to make money if they make everything free? Customization to make your character more unique then others should always be payed for as long as it doesnt unbalance the game. Same thing as the other guy, you want this. You don't need this. And you should pay for little things like this. They should not make this free because its an extra and this alone will bring them some nice deserved revenue. The only thing "greedy" is players askign to get every single thing for free. I was all for the pro upgrades for free, because it unbalanced the game. But never something as un-important as this. What would the incentive to buy stuff be then? This was the main reason I bought my founders package (And the fact I wanted to support them)! Edited January 16, 2013 by Bboy500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raejin99 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 $5 is expensive for such a minor cosmetic upgrade. Sure, it's nice, but not $5 nice. If I were going to spend that money, I'd rather have it unlock different physical options for my warframes, like different options for helmets, chests, shoulders etc. $5 for just some color swaps, much as I like said colors, is just a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirbuncle Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Charging a relatively small amount of cash for character customisation, I'm fine with. What bothers me is the extremely limited range of colours available. There is absolutely no reason why we can't get the full range of colours in a palette. I'm not sure why it would even be difficult to implement. Edited January 15, 2013 by Kirbuncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKieran Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 ok to be honest the colour palate is the only thing in the game you can't get without paying right? you already start with the middle shades of all the colours and that is alot the devs could of just let you have the default colours for the frames and they didn't just drop a few dollers ( or in my case pounds ) and buy the colours if you want them so badly they shouldn't really be handed out freely because this basicly means now no one has a point of paying the lowest payment option to obtain these... this whole "I want this and this and this to be daily login or alert or blueprint or bla bla bla" is getting a little out of hand the devs have already given people 50 free plat to start with and the middle shades of the colours 8 weapon slots and 2 war frame slots they should keep things "cosmetic wise" locked out to plat only because you're paying for the colours to stand out you shouldn't be given them for (someone is gonna kill me for this ) "free" anyway to sum it up Cosmetic items shouldn't be given out freely. there should be a way to only unlock a line of colours for that shade though like all the reds etc for a cheaper price like what Raejin99 said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yitani Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 For me personally it's not the point that it's $5, it's that they could make skins and sell them instead. However, limiting colours seems to just be greedy. Skins I can understand, colours I can not. I think that they need to seriously think through their business model and how they're going to gain money from this, because there are some problems now. I have a hard time seeing how this game will survive after the open beta. look I agree with the person that replied to you.Anything cosmetic colors palettes ,skins , etc should be paid or else I don't even see the point of selling skins neither .Cosmetic = colors ,skins like I said . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rynax Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Honestly, you can't really call it greedy. DE just removed the final barrier seperating paying customers and free players. Every non-cosmetic item is now obtainable by any player through normal means, and the pro system has been removed. Is five bucks a bit steep for a little extra customization? Maybe. Regardless, so far DE has proven themselves more than deserving of your pocket change. Consider the extra cash a donation to help cover developement costs. If the colors aren't worth the $5 to you, then don't buy them. It's that simple. No need to complain about the price of vanity items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFusion Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 i hope they implement the idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced- Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Honestly, you can't really call it greedy. DE just removed the final barrier seperating paying customers and free players. Every non-cosmetic item is now obtainable by any player through normal means, and the pro system has been removed. Is five bucks a bit steep for a little extra customization? Maybe. Regardless, so far DE has proven themselves more than deserving of your pocket change. Consider the extra cash a donation to help cover developement costs. If the colors aren't worth the $5 to you, then don't buy them. It's that simple. No need to complain about the price of vanity items. This ^ I bought the founders package not because I can afford it right now or whatnot. I bought it because this company showed me that they listen and care about making a fair game for the free players. But if they had no color pallete, I wouldnt have justified purchasing it because I didn't want anything else. There would be no incentive to spend money. They need something to get people to spend money. Looking unique is exactly what they should be aiming for. So again, you have the basic colors and for free players those should be more then enough. If you want something deeper, dont buy lunch one day and spend $5 on the color in-game. If you think that's too high, then live without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr3dd Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If you want some colorz... hustle 5bux and dish out some cash for this "fine.. game" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joos Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If you can't eek out $5 from washing your moms dishes i'm sorry to say you got bigger issues then to worry about getting colors in this game. Most F2P models use colors/skins/convenience as a way to profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildebert Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 While I can respect their will to make money on the cash shop, I find a CHANCE to get a SINGLE colour out of the daily Log-in reward is slow and inconvenient enough that people will still be willing to pay for every color at once whilst giving time devoted players the chance to show off their experience. Even if you were to get one color a week it would still take more than a year of logging on every day for you to complete your entire palate. Seeing people running around with the same dozen or so colors is boring anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiters Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If it costs money it's too much money, and if it's a little thing like this it's not worth money, but if it's not worth money, why do you want it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr3dd Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Im buying that color pack right now because of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAN3MK Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Giving away customisation is a big no-no, otherwise whats the point of even having an MT system. Worst case scenario, once we get further into development and we start getting more and more costumisation options in the form of skins or decals, we can have some sort of discounts every now and than ala League of Legends, but thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raejin99 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If you can't eek out $5 from washing your moms dishes i'm sorry to say you got bigger issues then to worry about getting colors in this game. Most F2P models use colors/skins/convenience as a way to profit. It's not really the fact that $5 is a high price in general, it's just that it's high compared to the relatively small return you get. Yes, other games sell cosmetic items in their cash shop, but those games also tend to have more options for visual customization, and they have a lot of cheaper options. As it stands now, Warframe has only the color pallete as the only way to customize an individual frame's appearance, and a lot of people aren't going to be that thrilled to drop $5 on such a small thing. That means DE gets no money from them, in this case. If they had a cheaper option, or if they made that $5 investment go a little farther, they might have gotten something. And as anyone who's familiar with f2p games knows, it's a lot of little somethings that pays the bills for the developers. Now, I don't think customization should go the way of pro where it's available as well through the game, but offering some lower priced options won't break the bank either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzioNda1337 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 You dont want this awsome game to earn any kind of money for its awsomeness? :) no ty if there is one thing i would like them to do it would be more like heroes of newerth. That warframes is a lot cheaper to obtain later on and that the new:est one is only obtainable thru irl money cash for a month or so before it unlocks for blueprints and stuff for other ppl. More weapons and do the same here, no it does not become pay to win anyway since all weapons should be equal good in their own way. and if it would been competetive its easy to do it like they do in other games heores classes not obtainable will be banned until its obtainable for ppl who not pay for it, if it comes some sort of pvp ladder system later in the days. This system works well for hon, and suits this system really well, aslong as they never throw away the progress and crafting system in this game it would only motivates more players to pay to support the game and not to win. I bought founders not becuse i wanted to be more powerful but to try all the classes, and becuse i want to support this awsome game! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlockHolmes Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Actualy does the color extension unlock the colors for all the warframes you have, including future ones? Or is it a consumable item that you can only use on one warframe at a time? Because the former would be pretty baller and worth the $5 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced- Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Actualy does the color extension unlock the colors for all the warframes you have, including future ones? Or is it a consumable item that you can only use on one warframe at a time? Because the former would be pretty baller and worth the $5 imo. Unlocks it for all warframes, forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikab Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 You guys with this "i have a suggestion, let's add XY to Reward system" are getting out of control. Devs show you their little finger, you want their whole arm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsmeha Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Why would you even complain about not getting free colors, they're just colors. Mabinogi is an MMORPG that made tons of money off just selling colors for clothes. Some people don't even pay for their premium. But I guess everyone just wants everything to be free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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