Prepoznator Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Not impressed not even abit,who ever is advising u give him a boot DE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodEmperor Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 DE are u with the Tenno or against us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loydster Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 They should have never touched him in the first place.... ya liked my Rhino, should not have touched him, not sure he will be able to help the team now, I could put up with him being slow keeping up, cause he could help the group get up close. Guess he is done . Trinity can take his place. hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicanfly Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Wow! You moved a lot of things to Blueprints, good thing that I bought literally all weapons before. same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilReFlex Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Ok, now Rhino is useless, Q_Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdenagincourt Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Sure, they're easier to come by for you. The thing is, new players can't get to the places where the good credits are at, and they have the same problems with getting all materials. This change screws over new players a ton. New players can't play alert missions with high credit rewards on Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Uranus or Neptune? Enemy damage/survivability scaling doesn't even begin to noticeably kick in until level 30 or so. Even Earth, Europa, Ceres and Sedna are pretty accessible after a few dozen hours of play, and Redirection and Vitality drop like candy from lower mobs now. In any case, even for a player who only has Mercury, Venus and Saturn unlocked, credit acquisition is significantly easier now than it would have been for the same player a couple months ago when I started playing, due to credit rewards from alerts scaling up from the base amount. There's really no arguing that point...it's simply math. There was no scaling for credit rewards before, and now there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoG69 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The update for me was 8\10, and i really disliked the Rhino nerf, because it was the only good thing that TANKER did.....real pitty :( Maybe the DEVs will retract on their decision with sooo many complaints from us, ill wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liftedsoul Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Please explain how an ability that is pretty much outclassed by the abilities of most decent frames ruins gameplay. Iron-skin outclassed? Why because it does no damage? Invincibility is one hell of a perk. The fact of the matter is that when you are playing Rhino and nothing is a threat to you ruins gameplay. Literally nothing. The biggest threat is either running out of energy or forgetting to use iron skin. Lasers? Iron Skin. Disrupters? Iron Skin. Boss Fights? Iron Skin. Shockwave Moas? Iron Skin. Rollers? Iron Skin. 50 enemy surrounding you? Iron Skin. Damage? lol nope, Iron Skin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potatofamine Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 OMG WHAT DID YOU GUYS DO TO THE GRAM SOUND? IT SOUNDS AWFUL NOW! WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarozian Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) Invincibility lasts only 8 seconds now with a maxed out mod.......still not pleased. Make it 15 seconds. =,= Oops nvm false alarm invincibility isn't there anymore, they just nerfed 12 seconds to 8 seconds, that's all. Just freaking wonderful.....>.> Edited May 17, 2013 by Zarozian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsualla Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) 1. Please. Please. Please stop balancing everything in PvE game. What's the point of it anyway? If you want to make everything equal then just don't give us powers on the first place, then we are back to classic FPS games where we could just shoot with our gun. That is the ultimate balance if you are looking for that. Instead, Buff some of those skills so that the user would feel there is something special with their frames they are using. Rhino is special for his Immunity, Banshee's also have the longest range and temporary immunity. Frost's globe is a realiable obstacle. That is the X-Factor we should emphasize, so people could talk that they are proud to use their frame because of this, and that. Nerfing this and other things would make those "feeling" gone, and even broke the frame. PvE is not something that heavy balancing is needed because we are actually helping with our skills. 2. I have faith in you, DE because you are one of a few that have an active and communicative Developers, having regular updates, and even livestreams. But with the recent so-called market price balancing, I would have a bad judgement toward you. I really don't want to think that you kind of indrectly, and softly "forces" us to use platinums now to buy things (its like calling it "market price balancing" is dishonest while is it a bit obvious what DE have in mind). The problem with the economy ingame is that the credit is in inflation. There are so much unused credits piling up in many players. The logical conclusion is to increase the prices, and making credits limitedly tradable and not making most of it to blueprints. I know this is a bit hard to achieve, but with this strange changes to market, many players would be skeptical toward you (or at least, I did) I still have faith in you, DE and I know that you could make this better. Edited May 17, 2013 by Tsualla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kray465 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I have to agree with everyone else who's complaining about the Rhino nerf. If the duration of the skill was reduced or the cost was upped then it would have balanced it out just fine and he'd still be useful. Especially considering his other 3 powers which are rather lacking in damage dealing and only distrupt incoming damage briefly. Luckly I have other frames that I enjoy playing as well but Rhino was always my favorite for being able to handle whatever is thrown at it without the use of an AOE skill. Truely a disappointment though everything else besides the banshee issue is just fine. Cant wait to play with the new frame, it looks rather interesting. Still a rather fun game that I can't seem to get away from. Reminds me of my addiction to PSO: BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4G4M4K1 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 index.php?/topic/45944-warframe-officially-pony-cannon/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrobbingPoonSlayer Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 overdue nerf. Rhino was way too good. Now he's just barely too good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-..- Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Wow. So you just turned everything to blueprints? "Pricing balance" my dead grandma. That is NOT a way to "balance" pricing. That is a way to extend gameplay by making it more farm heavy. Bad move, DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovyll Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 y cant warframe crawl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar66 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 How so? with the range upgrade you can still kill everyone without taking damage, yeah i did experimented it in 3 runs i only got shout 3 times for 200 shield damage. Did anyone take more damage with banshee while casting SQ? I got flat out killed while doing SQ.. I'm hopeing it's a bug and they'll fix it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxImpact Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Nice bug fixes and frame, but what in the world were you thinking of when you made those pricing changes!? 17.5k Strun now is 75k?! Now beginners like me have little choice but to grind on the game for over 6 hours to get one weapon, and some of the ones you hiked (eg. Strun, Furis, Bo, etc.) aren't really that great! I'll keep playing, but I'm not happy with the insane price hikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 overdue nerf. Rhino was way too good. Now he's just barely too good not even. everything he does is done better by someone else. tanking? trinity/ember. CC? vauban or mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronicks Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I have over 300 hours of game time played and I play with a group of players who have played a lot longer than I have and the general consensus is that the Iron Skin nerf was over-due. Don't get me wrong, I can sympathize with everyone missing the fact that you can ignore everything as long as you had a pool of energy but the fact of the matter is that 17 seconds of complete invulnerably ruins gameplay. Do you believe that Iron Skin was a balanced ability? Being able to ignore all types of damage and get in any enemy's face without any concern? Solo fighting a boss without taking any damage? The point of balance changes in a PVE game is simple; to keep the game challenging. As far as your prediction, I expect it to go a little differently because I enjoy every frame that is currently in the game. (even the ones that most complain are under-powered) But hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Game and so complicated, because the 500-600sht monsters per level. and this is the norm. And it is difficult when toxic ancient surround you. Rhino was the only one who could stand against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenwing Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 "Balance the weapon pricing"? That sounds like a funny way of saying "Almost everything is a blueprint now!" I understand money is important to making the game grow, but please don't disguise something like that as "pricing balance". It's dishonest. Everything else about the update is fine, I'm just annoyed by how so many weapons - not even really remarkable weapons at that - are now becoming blueprints. It makes getting into the game that much more difficult, since almost all the intriguing weapons now take you about twelve hours to make. Who wants to stop playing for twelve hours? Not the newcomer, that's for sure. Good one DEvs This game is becoming less free to play and way more pay to win -.- you are screwing the game up so STOP. And the Rhino nerf was s**t -.- other than that its a average update Especially considering how many upvotes these tools got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostWTF Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 why not one necromancer/mechromancer warframe? =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ends Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I do not believe this is lost. Continue onward with knockback immunity. does that i mean i will still be able to not get drained by ancient disrupters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 does that i mean i will still be able to not get drained by ancient disrupters? nope, they drain you still I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarozian Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I have to agree with everyone else who's complaining about the Rhino nerf. If the duration of the skill was reduced or the cost was upped then it would have balanced it out just fine and he'd still be useful. Especially considering his other 3 powers which are rather lacking in damage dealing and only distrupt incoming damage briefly. Luckly I have other frames that I enjoy playing as well but Rhino was always my favorite for being able to handle whatever is thrown at it without the use of an AOE skill. Truely a disappointment though everything else besides the banshee issue is just fine. Cant wait to play with the new frame, it looks rather interesting. Still a rather fun game that I can't seem to get away from. Reminds me of my addiction to PSO: BB Immunity= Removed Damage reduced = 80% Duration at max = 12 seconds After that small patch we had now: Duration = 8 seconds Oh they are so rubbing it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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