Dreadwire Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Good bye super jump. you save my life countless time. Hello new ultimate. I heard its gonna be suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka_Qrow Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Will his ult scale melee wep atk spd? If so then Dragon Nikana everywhere. If it only scales base dmg, crit chance, and crit dmg like Valkyr's ult, then prepare to see a bunch of Excals runnin with Scindo Primes and Jet Kittehs+^_^+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Azeizel Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 yes ERMERGHERD *mind explodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriviagene Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 the only thing i'm a bit antsy about is the fact that we've been given no info at all on how RJ will function now that separates it from RB as radial CC^Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) Exactly. We only saw how the new powers gonna behave/look. All the enemies were melee only (so they weren't shooting at excal) They seem to be low or middle tier (so they are fragile) So yah, I wasn't impressed at all, since I didn't see his ultimate have any CC, or have any-other effect to compensate the melee only fight style. Then change your original statement, please. You said "All we've seen are animations so far" and "I don't know how you people know so much about this rework." We know enough about it now, we've seen more than animations, so your "Exactly." statement makes 0 sense. We've seen how it behaves, how it functions, etc. That's more than animation. Edited June 14, 2015 by LazerSkink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INeedMorePotato Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I did it , it was hard but I masterbated to this rework 10/10 would fap to again.<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 yes Still waiting for our tramp stamp autographs, mr Dan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalcyonH66 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 His ult will be effect by the melee weapon that is equiped. I think that enough >.> That's not a passive. That's simply how Valkyr's ult works. Since Excalibur is getting a sweet rework,he`s basically gonna turn into the king of melee...... I hope. I'm pretty damn sure that Valkyr is still going to be FAR more effective than him but I suspect he'll be much more fun. Will his ult scale melee wep atk spd? If so then Dragon Nikana everywhere. If it only scales base dmg, crit chance, and crit dmg like Valkyr's ult, then prepare to see a bunch of Excals runnin with Scindo Primes and Jet Kittehs+^_^+ If it works the same way as Valkyr's (which is what I'm scared of) then yep it'll be most effective in terms of his ult to run with Scindo Primes. That would sadden me greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicSlaver Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 What if his ultimate turned out to suck and its only utility is to use his spin attack for energy free blinds? I'm just imagining the end game Excalibur playstyle is just him spinning around like a top. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climatiseur Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) The "melee weapon affects how the ult behave" could be interesting, if they don't just make it simply affecting the damage like Valkyr. It can be done by different melee types giving the ult different effects, similar to energy color affecting Chroma's skills, Eg. Hammers and Heavy Blades: Sword waves are largest in range, ragdoll enemies in the path, but are slowest in speed (and maybe shortest distance.) Normal swords / Dual swords: The basic waves form. Normal wave range and speed, guaranteed slash procs. Dual swords will split the waves into two in half wave range etc. Scythe / Whip : Larger than normal wave range, normal speed, affected enemies will be pushed and grouped into a point. Polearms etc: Normal waves range, faster than normal speed, small stagger just like impact proc daggers / dual daggers: Smallest in wave range, fastest in speed. Innate punch through, puncture proc. Greater critical damage. Thrown melees : Smaller than normal waves range, furthest in travel distance. Slight homing effects and has a tendency to U-turn. Sth like this would be great and fruitful in varieties, not like "one type of melee will be the best" IMO. ps. I probably missed some types, but that's the basic idea. Edited June 14, 2015 by climatiseur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyEnneract Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 All frames are getting passives. One new thing we learned about Excal's ult from last stream is that it auto parries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 the only thing i'm a bit antsy about is the fact that we've been given no info at all on how RJ will function now that separates it from RB as radial CC The same? They just said its going down as his third ability. ps. I probably missed some types, but that's the basic idea. Interesting idea and it would be cool to see DE implement that. BTW how would you do it with the redeemer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climatiseur Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Interesting idea and it would be cool to see DE implement that. BTW how would you do it with the redeemer? I am not sure, since I haven't intensively used it for many times. But at this moment I probably would group it into the dagger type. Because to me its signature is the bullet-firing feature, and that somehow resembles to daggers in my mind. But I can imagine other people would have different impression of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadowfoxx307 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I must be the only one who wasn't impressed by what they showed of his rework on the devstream :/ Nor I understand how you ppl already know so much about his rework, since only animations were shown so far. YOU are the reason why people say you can't please everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangofett Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Exactly. We only saw how the new powers gonna behave/look. All the enemies were melee only (so they weren't shooting at excal) They seem to be low or middle tier (so they are fragile) So yah, I wasn't impressed at all, since I didn't see his ultimate have any CC, or have any-other effect to compensate the melee only fight style. He has auto parry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfScrugging Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 The same? They just said its going down as his third ability. they said they were changing it to differentiate it from RB. just moving it down isn't really changing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ATreidezz Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Ooooh. If his ult is affected by the weapon equipped then I know which weapon I will be using constantly on him : ) Le Dwagon Nikurna Plot twist: Prime Nikana is coming Soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lethalbman10119 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Plot twist: Prime Nikana is coming Soon... dragon nikana is already basically the prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ATreidezz Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) dragon nikana is already basically the prime No its not.... does prisma gorgon/skana basically a prime? Its not a prime until it has "PRIME" on its name..... Edited June 14, 2015 by (PS4)ATreidezz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemeticRepo Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) Or maybe +50% channeling effieciency when a melee is equiped? What's the point of +50% channeling efficiency if no melee is equipped? Edited June 14, 2015 by MemeticRepo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7grims Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Then change your original statement, please. You said "All we've seen are animations so far" and "I don't know how you people know so much about this rework." We know enough about it now, we've seen more than animations, so your "Exactly." statement makes 0 sense. We've seen how it behaves, how it functions, etc. That's more than animation. =_= We seen how it works, as in we seen reb playing, as it we seen the animation of the abilities... So what else have we seen that you all know so much, and all are talking about since there is no info? You are the one making zero sense, what else have you seen besides what reb showed??? Many ppl here are already assuming buff in this or that, is abilities working like valkyr etc etc, all conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Still not hyped until I see actual thing in game. Too scared of gimmick powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7grims Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) YOU are the reason why people say you can't please everyone I actually liked the old-old exca, then it was stupidly destroyed because of whatever reason they thought RB was too OP, then they made him into a OP spam frame, then they destroyed it again when he became the god of draco. And now I'm seeing after all that, we still getting a frame that isnt good. All you ppl are already happy and cheerful like little school girls, I prefer to stay on the fence, until they prove that the new ultimate haves any use at all. If he only becomes a buffed melee mode, then what kind of ultimate is that? A bad one I would say, since the myth of "melee only is viable in high tiers" as already been debunked as bullsh*t. Edited June 14, 2015 by 7grims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogManDan Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 ERMERGHERD *mind explodes might need some towels to clean up the mess Still waiting for our tramp stamp autographs, mr Dan... I am sure they sell some stamps of dogs at the local thrift/dollar store ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZzVinniezZ Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 ulti base on weapon melee this forced me to use dragon nikana or scindo prime or any other high damage melee instead of proto glaive with my proto excalibur :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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