Doughalo2 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Basically a bunch of warframes shoulders and/or armour plates are blocking guns completely, and on the other hand look at the success of the ability to toggle in starwars battlefront, for PVE it would be fine ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalimir Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Wait are they blocking the guns from shooting or blocking you from seeing them outright? Also, DE has stated they have no plans for a 1st person mode at all in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)theelix Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 There is no good reason why we'll ever need a first person mode, end of story. Would you rather be able to, you know, turn your camera and look at your gun, or only constantly be able to see 50% of your gun from the top angle only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Adding first person isn't as simple as sticking the camera in your face. Everything has to be made proportional to you, including the naps, items, enemies and basically everything else. Ask for a change to the shoulders, not FP view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn11715 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Personally, i would like to see a hybrid system, which uses first person while aiming and third person at the rest. Wait are they blocking the guns from shooting or blocking you from seeing them outright? Also, DE has stated they have no plans for a 1st person mode at all in the future. Just because stated it, doesn't make it impossible... Yes, its unlikely, but not impossible. From all I've noted, the main problem are the guns textures, and that making them better for first person would be too much work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyddedaallan Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Another 1st person thread.... DE have stated themselves that they are NOT adding 1st person at any point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahcruna Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) First person is sorta' already in the game, it's just not very pretty with stuff clipping all over the place. :p Yes it's an old bug, but still fun when it happens. :) Edited June 26, 2015 by Ahcruna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Adding first person isn't as simple as sticking the camera in your face. Everything has to be made proportional to you, including the naps, items, enemies and basically everything else. Ask for a change to the shoulders, not FP view.actually the glitch that puts you in first person, shows that it's almost as simple as moving the camera. Seriously it seems perfectly do-able. Do I think they should drop everything and do it? No, but I feel when they have more time they should look into it. And remember, they also said PvP wasnt going to happen either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillbrookWest Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 How would DE convey a backflip in first person? A forward roll? how do you time your wall run flips when all you see is wall? Does the warframe break it neck to allow you to see behind it? FPS in gaming incurs a massive hit to peripheral vision. If a FPS viewpoint was added, it would be sub-par and of very poor quality....which begs the question: why add it at all if it's going to be half arsed? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IX-44 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 actually the glitch that puts you in first person, shows that it's almost as simple as moving the camera. Seriously it seems perfectly do-able. Do I think they should drop everything and do it? No, but I feel when they have more time they should look into it. And remember, they also said PvP wasnt going to happen either. How would DE convey a backflip in first person? A forward roll? how do you time your wall run flips when all you see is wall? Does the warframe break it neck to allow you to see behind it? FPS in gaming incurs a massive hit to peripheral vision. If a FPS viewpoint was added, it would be sub-par and of very poor quality....which begs the question: why add it at all if it's going to be half arsed? :/ Simple. Do what most FPS's do and have the camera move in a silly way that resembles a person doing a forward roll but don't have it change direction. Also, as it was stated. there's already a glitch that puts you in first person. This all said, I don't think we need first person. This ain't a FPS kinda game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordel Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) actually the glitch that puts you in first person, shows that it's almost as simple as moving the camera. Seriously it seems perfectly do-able. Do I think they should drop everything and do it? No, but I feel when they have more time they should look into it. And remember, they also said PvP wasnt going to happen either. Okay, let's pretend for a second that you're right, and that DE moves the camera. Everytime you move, you'd see some type of clipping from your frames' movement. Your parkour would go from barely doable -> nearly impossible, because of the way WF's current parkour works. Animations ie. stealth kills would be instantly wonky. DE would have to make first person textures for every gun (of course, unless you'd like to see your gun clipping into a wall/enemy/whatever in first person). Visual debuffs would be the most annoying thing in the world from first person. Oh yeah, and let's not forget that WF's current camera is free movement. It's not based on the frame, it's based on your own movement. (unless you're aiming and/or using a directional skill). If all they did was replace the camera, then we could be owls and turn our eyes 360 degrees without actually moving our head. That's not really something an FPS is meant to do. Point is, it's not as simple as moving the camera. It is doable, sure, but it's alot of effort for a small feature. And it's not as simple as "moving the camera". Besides, WF isn't really the type of game you play in first person. ./endrant Edited June 26, 2015 by Ordel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronyn Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Having an option for the game to go into first person view ONLY while aiming down sights would be a solid answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahcruna Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 How would DE convey a backflip in first person? A forward roll? how do you time your wall run flips when all you see is wall? Does the warframe break it neck to allow you to see behind it? FPS in gaming incurs a massive hit to peripheral vision. If a FPS viewpoint was added, it would be sub-par and of very poor quality....which begs the question: why add it at all if it's going to be half arsed? :/ It's surprisingly playable when that bug pops up actually. the camera doesn't flip out when you do rolls or back-flips. The only major issue is that when it goes to first person mode, the cosmetic armours and some helmets clip in to the screen. (like you can see on the first screenshot I posted) The only other thing would be, if you go in to an idle animation you can circle the camera and that just makes you clip through the whole frame you are using. other then that the game is playable and very fun in FPS mode. :p makes it feel like a dev test mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordel Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Having an option for the game to go into first person view ONLY while aiming down sights would be a solid answer. I could get behind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronyn Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I could get behind this. Right on. Most of the difficulty with converting warframe to first person view is relate to all of the acrobatic movement. In ADS mode we can't do those fancy moves anyway or it knocks us out of it. Also we already have weapons that zoom in during ads... it seems like the right solution for those pesky shoulder-pad-blocking-our-view issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Okay, let's pretend for a second that you're right, and that DE moves the camera. Everytime you move, you'd see some type of clipping from your frames' movement. Your parkour would go from barely doable -> nearly impossible, because of the way WF's current parkour works. Animations ie. stealth kills would be instantly wonky. DE would have to make first person textures for every gun (of course, unless you'd like to see your gun clipping into a wall/enemy/whatever in first person). Visual debuffs would be the most annoying thing in the world from first person. Oh yeah, and let's not forget that WF's current camera is free movement. It's not based on the frame, it's based on your own movement. (unless you're aiming and/or using a directional skill). If all they did was replace the camera, then we could be owls and turn our eyes 360 degrees without actually moving our head. That's not really something an FPS is meant to do. Point is, it's not as simple as moving the camera. It is doable, sure, but it's alot of effort for a small feature. And it's not as simple as "moving the camera". Besides, WF isn't really the type of game you play in first person. ./endrant actually no. it would just need to make specific thing be invisible from the inside. Like the glitch with the Karak Wraith that you could only see the tape dangly from one side. Next with the first person glitch its clear that they wont have to optimize the looks of guns to fit with the PoV seeing as the guns are already VERY detailed anyway. Next Parkour would be simply having the camera follow the croshair and would probably look like Mirrors Edge. and with rolls and such, as stated above the camera would just remain level with the ground. I never said it would be easy to do. But with the First Person glitch it is clear that with some polish and time, it is as simple as moving the camera. this is simple realistic thinking. Edited June 26, 2015 by Senketsu_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxh Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 :/ Sounds to me like a lot of effort for next to nothing of value to WF. I mean really, what would it actually add? Why not simply not use armor pieces that annoy you by getting "ïn your way"? Seems like a far more sensible solution then to add to DE workload for a superfluous feature that has no practical benefits. If someone is worried about "stuff" blocking their view, playing a third person game seems kinda odd to begin with. Since that's the entire point, of being able to see you char and cosmetic stuff. I could understand it if it's suggested for a pvp oriented game, in order to avoid corner wars. But in the context of WF, I don't really see the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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