Venarge Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 11 (13 if you don't count the dagger skins) of the 53 weapons rely on RNG (heat dagger, heat sword, dark sword, dark dagger, glaive, dagger axe (scindo, zoren), manticore, brokk, ceramic dagger, plasma sword, pangolin sword, and jaw sword.) 1 warframe, all the artifacts, and all the alt helmets on the alert system (just facts more or less) ok 11 out of 53. I dont see why people should get these items just like that. I had to work for my dark sword. I had to be patient and look for it in the alert section. I missed 4 of the alert and the 5 was finally mine. I dont see why something like this is wrong. You dont need those items. You just want them. You could easily play something else. If you want to enjoy special items, you have to be patient. If you cant be patient, well, thats your problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodywing Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Is that really that important, to get stuff NOW? If you want WF, weapon, catalyst, or anything else IMMEDIATELY you have to pay. That's the cost of not being patient. I'm here since closed beta, and I played 2 warframes (two warframes), and maybe 2 or 3 rare weapons. And I'm not crying, because I want HERE NOW EVERYTHING. Patience is the key. Not being patient? Who said about not being patient? Some people have been waiting for weeks in some cases even months. I play about 4-6 hrs a day, mostly at night and I religiously watch the twitter feeds on my phone at all times and I still missed maybe 4 alerts that I needed because I was asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venarge Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Every single Frame depends on some kind of RNG, whether that be Random mission rewards, alerts, or boss drops. You can farm every one of them. The only two that really rely on rng(alert) are banshee and vauban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angius Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Well, devs are currently reworking RNG, so maybe it will change. But what is your proposition? alert mission is an alert mission, not "optional task". It pops up randomly, that's the thing about being alert.Unless we will have second type of mission - optional tasks, as I said earlier. Let's say - up to 5 different tasks per day, available for 24 hours, each day new set of rewards (randomly generated), so each day you will have a chance to find a blueprint. Edited May 21, 2013 by Angius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodywing Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Mate, patience became the ultimate super power. Even more rare than common sense. If it would be a mod, it would have the rarity of thunderbolt..... I have like 7 spare Thunderbolts and a whole bunch of Flow :) Edited May 21, 2013 by Bloodywing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I have like 7 spare Thunderbolts and a whole bunch of Flow :) argh I'm jelly :/ (trade ya a glaive(bp) or something for a thunderbolt if trading comes out in U8 (depending on the type of trading)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argoms Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I always have the same thing to say on alerts, so here's all the other threads that share similar views. tl;dr: alerts system is flawed (as a method of content distribution) and needs changing. However, your idea is quite different from all the others. I'm not sure how well it would work, but it seems original, at least ^^ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/44923-why-the-alerts-system-needs-changing/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/47142-alert-mission-overhauling/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/47421-suggestion-change-alerts-to-tenno-research/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45916-fixing-alerts-101/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/46894-the-current-drop-system-and-how-to-improve-it/?hl=alert#entry476412 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/46953-not-ok-with-the-alert-system/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/46773-remove-or-overhaul-alert-system/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45414-suggestion-token-alerts-instead-of-alerts/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45386-selectable-rewards-from-alerts-probably-treading-old-ground-here/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45200-idea-completing-an-alert-mission-gives-intel-on-enemy-activity/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48203-why-i-think-the-alert-system-needs-to-change/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48254-vauban-drop-is-kind-of-unfair/?p=494511 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48150-omg/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48036-oh-man-just-my-luck-xd/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48235-and-2-of-vaubans-parts-in-alerts/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45104-the-all-or-nothing-nature-of-alerts-is-a-problem-that-needs-to-be-addressed/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45104-the-all-or-nothing-nature-of-alerts-is-a-problem-that-needs-to-be-addressed/page-3#entry451660 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/44546-how-to-miss-3-catalysts-in-6-hours-edited-feedback/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/43415-orokin-fragment-idea-allow-incremental-upgrades-to-mod-capacity/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/46894-the-current-drop-system-and-how-to-improve-it/?p=476416 There has been suggestions of ways to improve the alerts (adding a token system, generating Alerts based on time logged in, etc), and these are being seen. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48245-suggestion-flashback-feature-for-alerts/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElementLordofMilk Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 You can farm every one of them. The only two that really rely on rng(alert) are banshee and vauban.The boss drops are still RNG. You can get the Blueprints you need in 3 runs or 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodywing Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I always have the same thing to say on alerts, so here's all the other threads that share similar views. tl;dr: alerts system is flawed (as a method of content distribution) and needs changing. However, your idea is quite different from all the others. I'm not sure how well it would work, but it seems original, at least ^^ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/44923-why-the-alerts-system-needs-changing/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/47142-alert-mission-overhauling/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/47421-suggestion-change-alerts-to-tenno-research/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45916-fixing-alerts-101/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/46894-the-current-drop-system-and-how-to-improve-it/?hl=alert#entry476412 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/46953-not-ok-with-the-alert-system/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/46773-remove-or-overhaul-alert-system/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45414-suggestion-token-alerts-instead-of-alerts/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45386-selectable-rewards-from-alerts-probably-treading-old-ground-here/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45200-idea-completing-an-alert-mission-gives-intel-on-enemy-activity/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48203-why-i-think-the-alert-system-needs-to-change/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48254-vauban-drop-is-kind-of-unfair/?p=494511 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48150-omg/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48036-oh-man-just-my-luck-xd/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48235-and-2-of-vaubans-parts-in-alerts/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45104-the-all-or-nothing-nature-of-alerts-is-a-problem-that-needs-to-be-addressed/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45104-the-all-or-nothing-nature-of-alerts-is-a-problem-that-needs-to-be-addressed/page-3#entry451660 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/44546-how-to-miss-3-catalysts-in-6-hours-edited-feedback/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/43415-orokin-fragment-idea-allow-incremental-upgrades-to-mod-capacity/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/46894-the-current-drop-system-and-how-to-improve-it/?p=476416 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48245-suggestion-flashback-feature-for-alerts/ Good post man, thanks! I'd have to read 'em all there are some good ideas here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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