Troll_Logic Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Mag is generally useless. Sure, the shield restore is nice, but it certainly isn't a reason to bring Mag over generally any other warframe. Greedy Pull makes Mag worth equipping. Nerfing Greedy Pull means Mag is back to being useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)theelix Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 What are you even talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkathan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 They're not nerfing, more as remaking, I think it's going to be moved from a Pull augment to an Shield Aura augment, so when she walks by drops, they gravitate towards her. Correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zareek Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Mag needs a revisit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counterflux Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Tried shield polarize with more than 150% power and extreme range on corpus already? Tried the new crush (+ augment) with high efficiency build already? Mag is good, people just get always get GPULL as answer when they ask how to play mag, that's why people don't play her so much in other ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABAL Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 So Mag gets a built-in carrier? That sounds incredibly boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthal Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Mag, pre-Greedy Pull, was one of the highest damage outputting frames available. Two weeks ago, I was able to achieve 53% damage in a 40 wave T4 Defense, using a Mag, while another player was using a Peacemaker build Mesa. Mag's #3 and #4 could use some buffing to justify the energy costs, but even so, she is one of the most powerful frames in the game, even ignoring Greedy Pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDSK-NXS Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I don't know man, I have been doing missions with mag and she looks excellent form me. Sure I'm not gonna bring her to the most extreme environment in the game, but that's because I know her pros and cons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinxeverything Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Mag is generally useless. Sure, the shield restore is nice, but it certainly isn't a reason to bring Mag over generally any other warframe. Greedy Pull makes Mag worth equipping. Nerfing Greedy Pull means Mag is back to being useless. *facepalm* Did you know that Mag has that one ability that restore allies shields and at the same time EXPLODE enemies shields? Therefor she is perfect against 'shielded' factions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Might as well remove everything that isn't Mesa Gmag Hydroid Nekros Frost Saryn and Trinity then.... Oh wait. We can't do that! That would mean anyone with a modicum of skill would have to play with people who don't know what they're talking about like you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)WiiConquered Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Pull is second only to Mirage's Hall of Mirrors as a first ability, shield polarize is great against shielded enemies and a decent breather anywhere, and crush is a decent damage/cc combo (damage reduction should be innate though). No, Mag's not useless without greedy pull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredicament Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 TC obviously doesn't know of Mag's true strength. Greedy Pull does not add anything to the game that you can do by, you know, walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahrzerkire Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 So you want to talk about mags true power... greedy pull, but not the time she let the TennOs do a 7 hour survival doig 99% of all damage. One shotting level 300+ enemies with ease... sure okay OPsure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9tailboy Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Mag is already a great warframe for slaying corpus and has a little bit of superiority in the void, but nerfing greedy pull will be fine with me, maybe instead of 100% chance, it would be 50%, or just reducing the range, either way, mag is already degraded for being given a specific job(pulling loot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinxeverything Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Therefor, from everyone who commented here, your real problem isn't with Mag (And with Mesa later on) but with the Greedy Pull augment! Channel your hate right or you are wasting your energy, talk about bad efficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 One of these threads? Really? She was just fine before Greedy Pull was added (granted a bit below average but even so) and the only reason this argument exists (and its not a strong one at that) in the first place is because of how much of a crutch the community has made that mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 You all know about shield polarization and its augment right? It destroys corpus and once the corrupted start sending in shield drones the get destroyed as well. And the augment makes her a tank. I have hard carried a bad team in t4 survival with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubious.Wisp Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Click bait is click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chroia Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Granted, I like being my own personal 60m Carrier, my only issue with Mag is Nullifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokime Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 One of these threads? Really? She was just fine before Greedy Pull was added (granted a bit below average but even so) and the only reason this argument exists (and its not a strong one at that) in the first place is because of how much of a crutch the community has made that mod. You all know about shield polarization and its augment right? It destroys corpus and once the corrupted start sending in shield drones the get destroyed as well. And the augment makes her a tank. I have hard carried a bad team in t4 survival with her. ↑ This people, they use common sense, you should too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkuoni Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 The reason why people consider mag useless is because her abilities are magnetic based, and her second ability also only really works well against the corpus. It used to be where all enemies has shields, and back then mag was op with nuke damage of her second. She still has that with the void up to an extent. If her abilities had a better function against grineer and infested, then she would be in the top. Her damage however can't be underestimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGs_Knackie Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Absolutely not. Mag was not the most used because a lot of people don't know to play her. She needs to be release and this is a pretty good thing, don't say foolery please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jiwa- Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 create bait thread then run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autongnosis Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 The reason why people consider mag useless is because her abilities are magnetic based, and her second ability also only really works well against the corpus. It used to be where all enemies has shields, and back then mag was op with nuke damage of her second. She still has that with the void up to an extent. If her abilities had a better function against grineer and infested, then she would be in the top. Her damage however can't be underestimated. I still think that even on faction with no shields Mag is extremely strong. Pull is still a radial damage ability that costs NOTHING and ragdolls enemies on almost instant cast. On a huge range. A better version than the cast-decast Absorb nuke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 create bait thread then run... I apologize. I didn't realize that I had to sit, watch a thread, and reply to every new post. Sigh. Tried shield polarize with more than 150% power and extreme range on corpus already? Tried the new crush (+ augment) with high efficiency build already? It's nice, but I'm not sure it warrants the slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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