Erelas Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Dear DE,The coloration for Ash Prime's new amoured area both helm and shoulders, etc is not showing dark colors correctly. For example, if you give it the darkest black color from the Smoke set all you get is a matte black finish that gleams rather than the pure black that you should get. It's off, was hoping we could get a fix for it? (May want to take a look at the immortal skin on the Ash Prime too while you're at it, his butt looks weird again, like a diaper. Tenno out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadowfoxx307 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 The thing about it is that one whole color slot on Ash Prime is dedicated to coloring his ponytail and like hanging pieces on his face, and ... that's it. A. Why aren't those pieces prime gold ? B. An ETA on this fix would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoking-Ashes Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Noo...i have a badass looking ASH prime with tht grey blob... He's like a fing Bee type.... and i finally am able to color ash without black and white anywhere (grey doesnt count XP) AND im not using the immortal skin front: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1626157264337735&set=pcb.1626157397671055&type=1&theater side: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1626157271004401&set=pcb.1626157397671055&type=1&theater back https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1626157294337732&set=pcb.1626157397671055&type=1&theater i couldnt get them to paste here and it wouldnt let me show it in steam online screen shots we when i made them public :( Edited July 10, 2015 by Smoking-Ashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I just seen a full pink Ash Prime, i think his colorable areas are ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLordKogax Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 True story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 *ahem* Dat Ash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMelody Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Immortal skins have been taking gold off of primes since MAG, and they are going to take even more gold off of fresh that have trim that can be coloured, I don't hate the fact that prime trim can be coloured, but I want the option to have a standard primed trim already, also a way to keep that trim when you equip immortals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maimus Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 yep, i whish the gold trim was seperat to the butt, so now i have no gold trim ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynslustafir Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 My Vectis prime looks like a fisher price toy right now. I can't get a dark blue onto the primary slot because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erelas Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 My Vectis prime looks like a fisher price toy right now. I can't get a dark blue onto the primary slot because of this. Yup, both got shipped with this issue, just hoping DE recognizes it and can get a quick fix worked out, Scott usually notices these things. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kripion Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 1. When invis from Arcane Trickery is active the semiviseable body of Ash Prime has NO HEAD. 2. ASH performing Blade Storm SHOULD be untoucheable BUT enemies affecting energy (draining it) can make it even while BS. Sometimes energy falls down without a reason. (its like it was same mechanic like Peacemaker etc). its very annoying and dangerous. Sometimes my energy was drained from 250 to 0 before BS ended... and then with no ene to cast smoke bombo, teleport or another BS - it can be troublesome... 3. Sometimes there is no Combo Counter while BS is performed. 4. BS STILL (god this bug is as old as this game...) end in falling under map... especially when we use Worm Hole just before casting it... 5. Color issues of Ash Prime were mentioned in other topics (no black color avalible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci_Ant Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) DISCLAIMER : This is not a Ash Prime design bashing thread. This is only a thread for technical issues with Ash Prime. A lot of threads have come up in this forum section, in the 'Warframes & Abilites' section and in the PC Bugs sub-forum about Ash Prime's technical issues regarding his textures, mesh clipping etc. This is an attempt to [MEGATHREAD] these issues into one place and I will try to ask the mods to merge all the other threads here. I'm on PC but can add problems encountered by PS4 and XB1 players if they post screenshots here. All the issues, with images or videos > 1. TEXTURES > a. Texture Quality Issue - Area under the Prime armor area on the thigh showing original Ash texture part that has a jagged glitch when using dark colors, in this instance pure black from Smoke palette. This is circled in red in the screenshot below. b. Texture Quality Issue - Blurry textures / texture areas on his inner thigh area. Also the transition from those textures to the Hi-Res PBR right next to it is not good. Also circled in red. c. Texture Quality Issue - Another jagged texture edge found while using Smoke Black and Ice Blue colors, the lining on Ash's Chest/Stomach area had a jagged transition on it's edges. Circled in red. It is clear only when facing a light source. More screenshots by Drufo from this thread > Ash Prime: A Kind Of Delusion d. IMMORTAL SKIN ISSUE - When using the Immortal Skin large sections of Ash Prime are colored using the color for the PBR gold trim, i.e., Tint Color 4. When reverting to default colors the Immortal Skin also defaults to it's original green and cannot be changed independently of the PBR Trim. e. GRAY COLOR ISSUE - Not a bug, rather a feature that there have been many complaints about in various threads as listed below. Colored Ash completely white from the Smoke Palette to show large sections of uncolorable gray areas, which we would appreciate to be allowed to color. 2. MESH > a. Clipping Issue - The helmet 'dangly bits' clip with the rest of him no matter what. Following screens show him in different poses and with the different animation sets. All problems circled in red. The helmet looks like it was worked very hard on but collision meshes on the dangles are missing. b. Clipping Issue - The receptacles for his 'hidden blades' clip with the armor mesh on top of it. Comparison with original Ash is provided. I was fully expecting those parts to be primed up and PBR'd. c. Misplacement Issue - The hidden blades receptacle shows as under the arm on the Ash Prime in the Codex, while it is shown over the arm in game and in Arsenal on both Ash and Ash Prime and Ash in the Codex. Also, the Ponytail on the default helmet is missing on Ash Prime in the Codex. d. Clipping Issue - Brought to my attention by Evan-0-matic, any and all secondaries clip heavily through Ash Prime's thigh armor area. 9 screenshots with different secondaries added here, with the problem areas circled in red. > e. Clipping Issue - Brought to my attention by Azamagon, there is Heavy clipping between Ash Prime's ponytail and any Syandana and light clipping between ponytail and outermost edge of the gold trim on leg armor protrusions. Videos provided below. f. Clipping and Misplacement Issue - Brought to my attention by HooDie7 and originally posted by Ash21-0408 here > Ash Prime And Prisma Daedalus Shoulderguards, normal Daedalus Shoulder Plates sit correctly on Ash Prime's shoulder armor, while the Prisma Daedalus Shoulder Plates do not sit correctly and clip with the shoulder armor. Also, the Dragon Nikana can be seen clipping through his leg armor area. Fixed with Update 17.6.2 > https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/541693-hotfix-1762/ Normal Daedalus Shoulder Plates sitting correctly: Prisma Daedalus Shoulder Plates not sitting correctly: g. Clipping Issue - Brought to my attention by and Kanjar, all Bow quivers clip through Ash Prime's spine armor area. h. Clipping Issue - Brought to my attention by , the Dragon Nikana clips right through Ash Prime's arm when he is holding a bow. i. Misplacement Issue - Originally posted by Dachus here > Dendra Armor On Ash Prime, the Dendra Shoulder pads are misaligned on Ash Prime, with one being higher than the other. Unknown if this is intended or not. 3. ANIMATION > a. Bladestorm Animation Issue - While playing Ash Prime I noticed something odd, 2 original Ash clones flicker on the screen for a split second right when activating Bladestorm. So I took a long video of it while playing and took screenshots from it to show this problem. Those original Ash clones appear only for a split second and then the clones that actually kill are the correct Ash Prime ones. All screenshots provided below. NOTE : I was not host during this game and I noticed it in another game when I was again not the host. I have also been able to replicate this bug when I am hosting and in the Simulacrum. Wrong Ash clones showing up on activating Bladestorm > Correct Ash Prime Clones murdering things > b. Ash Prime Default Helmet Ponytail Detachment Issue in Archwing - Originally posted by Hydroxate and MrMitchel here > Ash Prime Detachable Ponytail In Archwing and Ash Primes Hair Detaches From His Helmet In Archwing the default helmet's ponytail lags when there is movement of the archwing and gets detached from the helmet temporarily. http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/443953434414777825/F8F1D4D4B0DC4187AC33F20095E6CA310966CE15/ http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/443953434414776573/C69C7392B80F2C7CDFB536DF571653E81A469A70/ 4. PS4 PROBLEMS > (PROBLEM SOLVED!) a. Texture / Model / PBR Issue - Brought to my attention by (PS4)COGSPARTAN117, there seems to be a problem where parts of Ash Prime's model, textures and PBR don't render correctly. The following screenshots taken by that player show the loss of arm threading, along with muddy textures and lack of PBR all over the model. Also brought up by another player here > Ash Prime Arms Show No Detail http://i.imgur.com/adODFre.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Hj3OmaW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qFFf6Pj.jpg PROBLEM SOLVED SCREENSHOTS (Thanks to (PS4)COGSPARTAN117) > 4. UPDATE 17 PROBLEMS > a. Misalignment / Clipping Issue - Left Prisma Daedalus Shoulder plates now even more misaligned and sit deeper in Ash Prime's shoulder armor. Brought to my attention by aerosoul1337. b. Mesh Misalignment / Warping Issue - Brought to my attention by aerosoul1337, when Ash Prime is holding the Harpak or Hek, his left arm gets twisted and warped improperly. Images by aerosoul1337 > 5. ASH ACCESSORIES PROBLEMS > a. Locust Helmet Physics Issue - Brought to my attention by Vorpal_Ocelot in this thread > https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/502164-ash-locust-helmet-broken-physics/ Ash's Locust Helmet's Left side 'ear lobe' does not dangle like it's Right side one, possibly being a physics or mesh bug. The following video shows this problem > AND lastly, this is not really an Ash Prime exclusive problem but it is important since the PBR on Ash Prime has the same problem with every other PBR'd thing in the game, it doesn't work correctly in Void and Derelict Tilesets and loses an entire 'layer' of shading / 'shinyness'. FIXED WITH UPDATE 17.5. The Relays have PBR switching at different points. All this can be seen in action in my bug thread here > [Videos] Pbr (Physical Based Rendering) Not Working Properly On Void Tilesets / Relays I will update this thread with more issues if anyone finds them. Please post all issues here, it would be easier for DE to see all these problems in one place. I also request anyone who sees this to upvote it so that it may finally reach DE's eyes one day. Edited October 9, 2015 by Sci_Ant Removed linked that have been merged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ninja_Reaper_916 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Can we add ps4 can't put arcane enhancements on his helm here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-0-matic Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Am I the only one who notices that EVERY secondary completely or partially disappears into his thigh when holstered? This may have been mentioned in other threads, but I'm at work and don't have the time sort through them :/ Thank you, OP for starting this thread! I was going to do the same later tonight. And please add the 'secondary clipping issue(s)' to your list if I missed it. Thank again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci_Ant Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Alright so this is not a Megathread anymore since apparently normal forum users can't make them. I already got an infraction for that and so I advise others against putting the [Megathread] tag in their threads. Either way I will continue to update this thread if people continue to post their bugs here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci_Ant Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Can we add ps4 can't put arcane enhancements on his helm here? That isn't an Art and Animation issue so I'm afraid I can't add that here. Am I the only one who notices that EVERY secondary completely or partially disappears into his thigh when holstered? This may have been mentioned in other threads, but I'm at work and don't have the time sort through them :/ Thank you, OP for starting this thread! I was going to do the same later tonight. And please add the 'secondary clipping issue(s)' to your list if I missed it. Thank again! Thank you for bringing that to my attention! I have added 9 screenshots of the secondaries clipping to the OP under the Mesh section and mentioned you there. And thanks for the appreciation! I sure hope this will help DE find all the problems in one thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-0-matic Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Awesome! Thank you again, OP. I will continue to 'bump' this thread until it's at least acknowledged by a DE staff member. Warning points be damned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci_Ant Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Awesome! Thank you again, OP. I will continue to 'bump' this thread until it's at least acknowledged by a DE staff member. Warning points be damned! Thanks for the support ! :D But don't get yourself into any trouble. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TrueAlastar Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) You know, Steve confirmed it was a texture glitch. I'd like to see it unfixed purely to see your chagrin, OP. Glad you see you'd rather see an individual mildly annoyed than to see problems getting fixed in the game. <3 Edited July 10, 2015 by (PS4)TrueAlastar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 REALLY sad that DE/Mynki didnt address Ash's huge uni-color butt/body issue with the prime variant =/ REALLY sad =[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TrueAlastar Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 REALLY sad that DE/Mynki didnt address Ash's huge uni-color butt/body issue with the prime variant =/ REALLY sad =[ "Sad" seems to be a really good word to use for DE's complete lack of care for its players lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RNickS_BRASIL Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Ash Prime design looks awesome but theres some things that need to be fixed *Gray colors that can't be changed on his arms *Gray colors that can't be changed on his ponytail *Gray colors that can't be changed on his legs *Blade Storm blade still gray on Ash Prime ??? What how this ??? *Ash prime textures on prime parts looks so unfinished they look ugly *Grest question also about Ash Prime colors is ; why 1 pallet color just to change the detail on his helmet and ponytail ??? Why ? Why ? Why ? *Why we can't make Ash Prime full black ? *Ash Imortal don't dress very well on Ash Prime Many things still unchanged like his arms that don't show the lotus simbols while you using Immortal on Ash Prime Sorry DE but please this Ash Prime really need a review . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceryk Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) There's a number of frames that have black or dark gray areas that are not colorable. It's nothing new. Edited July 10, 2015 by Ceryk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RNickS_BRASIL Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 There's a number of frames that have black or dark gray areas that are not colorable. It's nothing new. Disagree this time is something really serious since theres a large areas that can't be colorable look at his arms and try to change the colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RNickS_BRASIL Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Don't let this thread DIE guys ... Edited July 11, 2015 by (PS4)RNickS_BRASIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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