Arkathor Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 There is no point in using VP, you can use Vectis and have 72 instead of 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkathor Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Ok, new series of Tests now on lvl 90 Enemies (1 Infested Disruptor Ancient and 1 Elite Lancer, no Corpus Target, cause i had no scanned). Primed Chamber: Builds: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308484583/9969A3215FF71086702D5986C29CF882A73D35DB/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308485037/58335D6DA9BCA0E6318CC448772C90E6FFA22C1D/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Primed Ancient Non Crit: 4106 Vectis Primed Ancient Crit: 18065 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308487306/EA09A498951DEDC91631D6DA0006ADF7D1B6B75C/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Ancient Non Crit: 1835 Vectis Ancient Crit: 19572 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308489653/2E4A24E073A49A959F02908E249628255F6F8D18/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Primed Lancer non Crit: 1009 Vectis Prime Lancer Crit: 4441 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308492616/F13B2D1A58BC629CE8BA403FB6692B063CE4DD40/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Lancer non Crit: 1034 Vectis Lancer Crit: 4551 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308491186/4F5E37724010142B8F64C347F385CD2FAA4A3888/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Charged Chamber: Builds: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308542695/721A0C7FFE2B5B74C3692CF91DBB8B6BBFDD2F81/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308543179/848E0F7F7C5DAEA431EE593ACBD38FF23C85D4AF/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Primed Ancient Non Crit: 2874 Vectis Primed Ancient Crit:12647 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308546364/E6EEE3EECECC40800D0253CCEDE31CB8B3A77BF6/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Ancient Non Crit: 3112 Vectis Ancient Crit:13695 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308548315/41D7DB1DC51E717456285D713A3DE3FF6AA337A1/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Primed Lancer non Crit: 707 Vectis Prime Lancer Crit: 3109 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308551242/6960C23D0949E8A33C0AC6D471D99472F561E289/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Lancer non Crit: 724 Vectis Lancer Crit:3185 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308552500/FC1D360C11312D88BA23F44A33A26E8778BF50D4/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black What we see now? The only one where VP is better is the non Crit on Ancient. Every other way regular Vectis is better (with Primed or Charged Chamber, doesnt matter), so every one who says VP deals more dmg just stay silent now cause here you have proof that you are wrong. And I am not doing test with reload speed mods (i have Primed Fast Hands Maxed for Akkad Tonkor speed runs) cause they are just lowering the dmg of the Vectis, i would rather use Heavy Caliber then reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkathor Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 A standard refreshing post, cause still a problem, and still not fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1N33DM0N3Y Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Ok, new series of Tests now on lvl 90 Enemies (1 Infested Disruptor Ancient and 1 Elite Lancer, no Corpus Target, cause i had no scanned). Primed Chamber: Builds: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308484583/9969A3215FF71086702D5986C29CF882A73D35DB/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308485037/58335D6DA9BCA0E6318CC448772C90E6FFA22C1D/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Primed Ancient Non Crit: 4106 Vectis Primed Ancient Crit: 18065 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308487306/EA09A498951DEDC91631D6DA0006ADF7D1B6B75C/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Ancient Non Crit: 1835 Vectis Ancient Crit: 19572 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308489653/2E4A24E073A49A959F02908E249628255F6F8D18/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Primed Lancer non Crit: 1009 Vectis Prime Lancer Crit: 4441 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308492616/F13B2D1A58BC629CE8BA403FB6692B063CE4DD40/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Lancer non Crit: 1034 Vectis Lancer Crit: 4551 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308491186/4F5E37724010142B8F64C347F385CD2FAA4A3888/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Charged Chamber: Builds: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308542695/721A0C7FFE2B5B74C3692CF91DBB8B6BBFDD2F81/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308543179/848E0F7F7C5DAEA431EE593ACBD38FF23C85D4AF/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Primed Ancient Non Crit: 2874 Vectis Primed Ancient Crit:12647 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308546364/E6EEE3EECECC40800D0253CCEDE31CB8B3A77BF6/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Ancient Non Crit: 3112 Vectis Ancient Crit:13695 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308548315/41D7DB1DC51E717456285D713A3DE3FF6AA337A1/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Primed Lancer non Crit: 707 Vectis Prime Lancer Crit: 3109 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308551242/6960C23D0949E8A33C0AC6D471D99472F561E289/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black Vectis Lancer non Crit: 724 Vectis Lancer Crit:3185 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/447332758308552500/FC1D360C11312D88BA23F44A33A26E8778BF50D4/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|2048:864&composite-to=*,*|2048:864&background-color=black What we see now? The only one where VP is better is the non Crit on Ancient. Every other way regular Vectis is better (with Primed or Charged Chamber, doesnt matter), so every one who says VP deals more dmg just stay silent now cause here you have proof that you are wrong. And I am not doing test with reload speed mods (i have Primed Fast Hands Maxed for Akkad Tonkor speed runs) cause they are just lowering the dmg of the Vectis, i would rather use Heavy Caliber then reload. 1st your Depleted Mag bug is fixed. Not all ppl are such eliterist 100 on the event or shietting plat to have Primed Chamber. And its also fact that the crit proc on Vectis is not that reliable. This all is solved with the Vectis Prime with 2 magammo for a finisher shot. Primed Chamber or Charged Chamber isnt nessesary too when you have this awesome fast reload. No reload mod is needed = more space for dumpimg all kind of damge build. P.S all that bullcap cant compete with the glorous Snipetron Vandal, or the best sniper of all time the Hekenschuetze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkathor Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 1st your Depleted Mag bug is fixed. Doesn't change anything, we still have Vulkar or Latron for fans of more Bullets per clip. Not all ppl are such eliterist 100 on the event or shietting plat to have Primed Chamber. You sure read that the test with charged chamber have same results... And its also fact that the crit proc on Vectis is not that reliable. This all is solved with the Vectis Prime with 2 magammo for a finisher shot. Would be solved much better with more crit chance on VP then second bullet. Primed Chamber or Charged Chamber isnt nessesary too when you have this awesome fast reload. !sarcasm! Sure think, when i'll see a bombard homing a rocket into me i'll just shoot 2 times, then reload and let him kill me instead of one shooting him. "Good" Idea. And Chamber mods are giving more dmg then elemntal mods or something like that. No reload mod is needed = more space for dumpimg all kind of damge build. Only problem that i must use this stupid reload peed mod on VP to take advantage of Chamber mod and quick reload (not waiting till end of recoil) and waste one mod slot. P.S all that bullcap cant compete with the glorous Snipetron Vandal, or the best sniper of all time the Hekenschuetze I'll just ignore this part of comment cause i see this as stupid offtopic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeven Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 This is actually the first time I post on these forums, despite having played quite a while. The single round in a clip in the original Vectis makes it have it's own specific style, one I am very fond off. Now, having multiple rounds in a clip is not a bad thing, it wouldn't be a Vectis in my opinion, but still a very nice sniper to have and one I would gladly enjoy using. (but why stop at 2, instead of a basic 5 or so?) Adding the second bullet to the Vectis Prime really just broke that rifle in my opinion, it does not feel like the original Vectis, nor is it an upgrade. I'm also a bit dissapointed in the mod that serves as a solution. A Sniper specific mod that increases damage at the expense of clip size would be a far better option. Allowing the increased damage to compensate for the mod slot taken. If the Prime weapons are intended to be an upgrade with the feel of the original the Vectis Prime has failed on both fronts. Simply removing the second bullet would instantly solve both issues. That said, the game so far is epic, great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredicament Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Instead of releasing a mod, they could have just gotten rid of the delay between the first shot and active reload. People weren't crying because it had two rounds, they were crying because Primed/Charged Chamber wasn't an option anymore, which is technically a step back from the original in flexibility. If they got rid of the delay, it still opens the weapon up for faster reload speed with Fast Hands while still allowing for Chamber builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeven Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Instead of releasing a mod, they could have just gotten rid of the delay between the first shot and active reload. People weren't crying because it had two rounds, they were crying because Primed/Charged Chamber wasn't an option anymore, which is technically a step back from the original in flexibility. If they got rid of the delay, it still opens the weapon up for faster reload speed with Fast Hands while still allowing for Chamber builds. I'm pretty much crying because it has two rounds, Charged Chamber still works if you reload manually, and if they somehow could fix that reload speed to match how it would be on the original Vectis without having to waste a modslot that would be great. The feel however, of dedicating yourself to that one shot seems to have fallen a bit, considering you can just blast off a backup shot at the expense of a bit of damage. Your suggestion would be a working viable fix, with no drawback aside from a different feel to the weapon. And while I for one would just prefer the second bullet gone I'd gladly accept this solution if they insist on their silly two round Vectis Prime magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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