(XBOX)SylvEmily Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Can we trust the Lotus? She is only giving us orders and we don't even know if she exists! She may be a projection to brainwash the Tenno sent out by.. anyone really, Grineer, Corpus etc. Just assisting Corpus and Grineer is not enough I propose to let us switch sides completely. The Lotus is evil!... possibly. Personally I sympathize more with the Corpus! PEACE! She's more of a Guide, you just listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatnix. Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Another one of these topics. Yes, everyone who wants to leave the Lotus are so edgy. They're Batman. They're so cool. The Joker is their biggest fan etc etc etc. Now that we have sarcastically admited it, can these topics stop now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 If I had one platinum for every time someone posted one of these threads.... I would be one rich Tenno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeylanX Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Iron Grip? I just feel a lovely touch... fingertips in my back, shoving me softly in the right direction. She never demands. She is never angry or unforgiving, even not if a mission was a bad fail. She always offer the mission, not a single sign of disappointment if you ignore it. She never ever forbid a syndicate mission, no matter what fraction. You can do what ever you want, as long as you stand by her side. If this would be a marriage she clearly whould be the perfect wife. I will always trust her, will always fight for her... and if the time is right, i will die for her. Thats the way of a Tenno... that seperates us from ordinary mercenarys. And if my last breath is leaving my body, i can thankfully look back to a good and strong life. It is a union of war, but that doesnt mean that there is no love insite. And even a burning flame can bring light into a dark univers. Try to whisper "Thank you!" for every oxygen capsule she sends, only for you and your team (survival). Try to be thankfull for every console she is hacking for you and your team (mobile defense). Try to smile every time you think about her... and maybe you can feel her smile to. Everything is beautifull if you look with love on it. Everything is ugly if you look with hate on it. Its so much easier to be happy if you are able to change the way you look at things ;o) Edited July 29, 2015 by KeylanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMobius Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Regardless what your Tenno thinks in-game, (which is up to you). You will _never_ be able to leave the Lotus, so as a player you need to get used to it. Why? Simple finance, the Lotus has by _far_ the largest number of lines in the game, she is the announcer for every single thing that a Tenno can do. There is no _way_ a sane company would go back and redo all of those lines with another VO actor/actress _and_ commit to doubling the VO needed for every single new mission or event, it's complete madness, it's a cost multiplier that produces no new content. So however you want to RP your Tenno, bear that real-world fact in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Erm.... The lotus hasn't really forced you to do anything? Any mission you do, you chose to do it. There's an alert? She just lets you know. Your low on life support, she advises you to activate one or to extract, otherwise risk dying. No enemy left? she tells you that you can extract. If anything, Ordis is more forceful than her. What kind of mom gives weapons to their children LOL :PThe terminator kind.The Bass.Gg man, i now have a bus full of people looking at me funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 it is getting boring listening to her all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengu147 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Iron Grip? I just feel a lovely touch... fingertips in my back, shoving me softly in the right direction. She never demands. She is never angry or unforgiving, even not if a mission was a bad fail. She always offer the mission, not a single sign of disappointment if you ignore it. She never ever forbid a syndicate mission, no matter what fraction. You can do what ever you want, as long as you stand by her side. If this would be a marriage she clearly whould be the perfect wife. I will always trust her, will always fight for her... and if the time is right, i will die for her. Thats the way of a Tenno... that seperates us from ordinary mercenarys. And if my last breath is leaving my body, i can thankfully look back to a good and strong life. It is a union of war, but that doesnt mean that there is no love insite. And even a burning flame can bring light into a dark univers. Try to whisper "Thank you!" for every oxygen capsule she sends, only for you and your team (survival). Try to be thankfull for every console she is hacking for you and your team (mobile defense). Try to smile every time you think about her... and maybe you can feel her smile to. Everything is beautifull if you look with love on it. Everything is ugly if you look with hate on it. Its so much easier to be happy if you are able to change the way you look at things ;o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grihaly Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Iron Grip? I just feel a lovely touch... fingertips in my back, shoving me softly in the right direction. She never demands. She is never angry or unforgiving, even not if a mission was a bad fail. She always offer the mission, not a single sign of disappointment if you ignore it. She never ever forbid a syndicate mission, no matter what fraction. You can do what ever you want, as long as you stand by her side. If this would be a marriage she clearly whould be the perfect wife. I will always trust her, will always fight for her... and if the time is right, i will die for her. Thats the way of a Tenno... that seperates us from ordinary mercenarys. And if my last breath is leaving my body, i can thankfully look back to a good and strong life. It is a union of war, but that doesnt mean that there is no love insite. And even a burning flame can bring light into a dark univers. Try to whisper "Thank you!" for every oxygen capsule she sends, only for you and your team (survival). Try to be thankfull for every console she is hacking for you and your team (mobile defense). Try to smile every time you think about her... and maybe you can feel her smile to. Everything is beautifull if you look with love on it. Everything is ugly if you look with hate on it. Its so much easier to be happy if you are able to change the way you look at things ;o) I accept this as my mantra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 So many heretics on these forums lately. More like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphersh Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I'm not buying these meta-arguments about what the devs said. In terms of the in-game narrative, there's absolutely no reason to trust the Lotus, or whoever is behind her machine-like voice. Yes, she tries to make sure that the Tenno are strong and complete their missions. That doesn't mean that she's benevolent. That just means that the Tenno are useful to her. For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeylanX Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) -snip- there's absolutely no reason to trust the Lotus -snip- May i ask for the reasons you dont trust her? Is it because she is to good to be real? Sometimes things are just good... There will never be a "real" reason to trust... its a part of the concept of trust. I strongly believe there is way more potential of destroying in "doubt" than in "trust". I just dont understand the whole "kill the Lotus"-thing. What exactly has she done to deserve it? Its "guilty because she could..." and not "guilty because she did..." and it just feels wrong to me. The moment she betrays me will exactly be the moment i will change my mind... and not a single second earlier. I prefer to have to regret that i trusted her than to have to regret that i distrusted her. Edit: Damn... i wish my English would be good enough for "this" kind of discussion ;o( Edited July 29, 2015 by KeylanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanescent Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 For god's sake......again?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Lotus is a cephalon. Her omnipresence, voice and lack of physical form confirm that. It is simply impossible for one person to control multiple tenno squads on different planets at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphersh Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 May i ask for the reasons you dont trust her? It's apparent that she's misleading the Tenno about the nature of these missions. For example, in capture, what you do is you empty your magazine into the victim, and then you suck out some kind of an energy from them into your hand, while they slowly disappear while screaming in fear. That's what actually happens, if you believe your eyes. And what does the Lotus say happens? "The captive has been escorted to the extraction point." That's not what just happened. It's a lie. And that's just one of the many clues. Like when at the beginning of the infestation extermination she says "if it's not a Tenno, eradicate it." Why does she say that? Is she worried that you get confused about the targets being infested or not? Are they really these ugly horror monsters, or is it just something the Lotus want you to see? Very suspicious. But I think that the lack of any explanation of her agenda should be enough to distrust her. She sends you on a "confrontation" mission and tells you to kill everyone, so they don't know it was you? That doesn't even make any sense. They will know it was the Tenno. Of course they will know. But why do we have to kill every single soldier on both sides in a siege? That's such a bizarre and grisly task, that it would really require some kind of an explanation, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Lotus is a cephalon. Her omnipresence, voice and lack of physical form confirm that. It is simply impossible for one person to control multiple tenno squads on different planets at the same time. No. In recent devstreams they have even shown a model of her full character, and they are planning a quest where you will meet her at her base. She is not a Cephalon. It's likely her ability to deal with so many things and see enemies nearby is due to some kind of psychic abilities she got from the void. I'm guessing we will learn a lot about her when they make that quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabolicalHamSandwich Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Who in the name of sweet jesuz cares? Screw all these sheep that just go with the story because its said to be "correct" i'm sure the lotus might be nice. BUT the whole "this person said this in the devstream" comment can just as easily be flipped on you people. If you want a plot twist at some point and you have people randomly digging into it do you A. agree with it and ruin what you wanted to do or B. fudgin deny it? Do I agree the lotus is bad? not really no. Could it be possible? You bet my sweet hams it could be. Quite frankly i'm sure this whole thing is nothing at all but it could just as easily be something. BUT in the meantime fudge it! ANARCHY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 This is such a pointless argument. If DE wants lotus to betray us, then we wouldn't be able to opt out anyway. DE is telling a story, and right now tenno trust the lotus . Just like in Borderlands, you have no choice in they matter no matter how the story turns out, no matter how many times you play the game. If lotus is "not to be trusted" then you have no choice but to get betrayed if that's where the story goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkadelicMayhem Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 The Lotus was an inside job and a false flag. j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenzo4 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I'm talking from an ingame perspective. Does not matter what the devs say. The reality is that she is controlling us as far as ingame says! I might have missed about the deaths of the operators, then again. Did my Tenno care for them? what the devs say, is how the game goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altey Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) I belive that she's just using us for her own profit, and "balance" is just a nice word for ETHERNAL WAR. Edited July 29, 2015 by Altey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaruis Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Lotus is confirmed good and will stay good. I hate it when people believe that the Lotus is evil because she's so mysterious whereas she gives us goodies and potatoes. What's worse is that those who are told thst the Lotus is confirmed good state that the Lotus is evil by FACT. Can't believe you guys are in denial. Literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I hate it when people believe that the Lotus is evil because she's so mysterious whereas she gives us goodies and potatoes. That's just welfare, so people who don't buy plat don't rant, it has nothing to do with Lotus as a character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone3216k Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Lotus is confirmed good and will stay good. I hate it when people believe that the Lotus is evil because she's so mysterious whereas she gives us goodies and potatoes. What's worse is that those who are told thst the Lotus is confirmed good state that the Lotus is evil by FACT. Can't believe you guys are in denial. Literally. Their minds have probably been corrupted for being in the freezer for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaruis Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 That's just welfare, so people who don't buy plat don't rant, it has nothing to do with Lotus as a character. I never knew Gift of the Lotus came from lephantis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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