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It's apparent that she's misleading the Tenno about the nature of these missions. For example, in capture, what you do is you empty your magazine into the victim, and then you suck out some kind of an energy from them into your hand, while they slowly disappear while screaming in fear. That's what actually happens, if you believe your eyes.

 

And what does the Lotus say happens? "The captive has been escorted to the extraction point."

 

That's not what just happened. It's a lie.

 

And that's just one of the many clues. Like when at the beginning of the infestation extermination she says "if it's not a Tenno, eradicate it." Why does she say that? Is she worried that you get confused about the targets being infested or not? Are they really these ugly horror monsters, or is it just something the Lotus want you to see? Very suspicious.

 

But I think that the lack of any explanation of her agenda should be enough to distrust her. She sends you on a "confrontation" mission and tells you to kill everyone, so they don't know it was you? That doesn't even make any sense. They will know it was the Tenno. Of course they will know. But why do we have to kill every single soldier on both sides in a siege? That's such a bizarre and grisly task, that it would really require some kind of an explanation, don't you think?

 

I think the tool we use to capture is a kind of hightech transport system. You turn the body to energy, safe it on a kind of chip, and someone can release it later to turn it into a body again. Its not impossible (maybe now). Everything looks like "magic" if only the tech is high enough. And that the victim is screaming in fear... i can fully understand that. Maybe he dont know the Tech or dont know much about Tenno. People always fear things they dont know. And maybe "The captive has been escorted to the extraction point." will make much more sense to you.

 

I dont think she is worried that you get confused about the targets being infested or not. "if it's not a Tenno, eradicate it." means that infested are so horrible dangerous, that you can not allow ANY POSSIBLE infested to escape. It also could just mean that her scans told her, no innocent survivor left on board. So you can unleash all the power you need to success the mission, without to be worry about innocents (or non combat targets).

 

And about your last point: I agree (SURPRISE). I would ask her if i could. But its not possible so i have to trust her... and i do.

 

 

 

At least you took your time to think for yourself, i have to accept and respect this fact, even if we have different opinions... and i do ;o)

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It's apparent that she's misleading the Tenno about the nature of these missions. For example, in capture, what you do is you empty your magazine into the victim, and then you suck out some kind of an energy from them into your hand, while they slowly disappear while screaming in fear. That's what actually happens, if you believe your eyes.

 

And what does the Lotus say happens? "The captive has been escorted to the extraction point."

 

That's not what just happened. It's a lie.

 

And that's just one of the many clues. Like when at the beginning of the infestation extermination she says "if it's not a Tenno, eradicate it." Why does she say that? Is she worried that you get confused about the targets being infested or not? Are they really these ugly horror monsters, or is it just something the Lotus want you to see? Very suspicious.

 

But I think that the lack of any explanation of her agenda should be enough to distrust her. She sends you on a "confrontation" mission and tells you to kill everyone, so they don't know it was you? That doesn't even make any sense. They will know it was the Tenno. Of course they will know. But why do we have to kill every single soldier on both sides in a siege? That's such a bizarre and grisly task, that it would really require some kind of an explanation, don't you think?

Haha I loled when I read this :)

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So from this and very like minded thread I have gathered thus. All you want is anarcy, plan and simple. All the name calling, the tiny little pieces of info. You just want to cause problems.

So from this and very like minded thread I have gathered thus. All you want is anarcy, plan and simple. All the name calling, the tiny little pieces of info. You just want to cause problems.

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The thing is that DE usually listens to the crowd like Clem the Grineer and Prodman whatever. I mean by the looks of it everyone would S#&$ their pants if the possibility to betray Lotus in the Lotus quest. There must be balance right? Lotus talks about it all the time, even assisting the enemy. If that rules then the same thing could happen to her. Otherwise she is a big hypocrite?

Also the Stalker sure have some kind of agenda, why does he want to revenge everyone we have slained? He is the most caring of them all, he cares through all the factions even @(*()$ Lephantis lol! The Tenno must have done something really bad against Stalker.

On a serious side, I'm not angry with Lotus but it would be an exciting twist and would add more depth.

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Tenno are human children who where kidnapped, tortured, mutated, and then trained to kill. So yes, Lotus to the Tenno is Space Mom. Remember the Tenno have the mind of children they where tortured they aren't alright in the head.

 

 

Also to answer some questions about Stalker. Stalker hates us because he was aligned with the Orokin which we Genocided. I mean we killed all the Orokin and the Stalker didn't know why so he hates us and sees us as traitors to the Orokin. So OP please play the Natah quest because if you think Lotus is bad you seriously haven't played it.

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So from this and very like minded thread I have gathered thus. All you want is anarcy, plan and simple. All the name calling, the tiny little pieces of info. You just want to cause problems.

Yeah that's basically it.

Half the edgy-rebellious people want to rebel to look cool, and they don't even bother reading more than half the current lore.

-"What if Orokin is good guy?"

Debunked by grineer lancer lore. Orokin made them slaves, and later made them space nazis.

Heck, half of us know that only the orokin LEADERS were killed, not everyone.

-"But lotus is sentient so she bad"

And yet they start to contradict themselves, going back and forth stating sentients are either good or bad just to make the Lotus look bad.

-"Grineer and corpus r good"

Just no. Grineer executes humans. Corpus sell body parts and cryopods. I don't need to say more.

There's already enough evidence NOT to rebel against the lotus.

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Tenno are human children who where kidnapped, tortured, mutated, and then trained to kill. So yes, Lotus to the Tenno is Space Mom. Remember the Tenno have the mind of children they where tortured they aren't alright in the head.

 

 

Also to answer some questions about Stalker. Stalker hates us because he was aligned with the Orokin which we Genocided. I mean we killed all the Orokin and the Stalker didn't know why so he hates us and sees us as traitors to the Orokin. So OP please play the Natah quest because if you think Lotus is bad you seriously haven't played it.

I haven't played Natah quest yet :( trying to get it atm. ty for info

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Yeah that's basically it.

Half the edgy-rebellious people want to rebel to look cool, and they don't even bother reading more than half the current lore.

-"What if Orokin is good guy?"

Debunked by grineer lancer lore. Orokin made them slaves, and later made them space nazis.

Heck, half of us know that only the orokin LEADERS were killed, not everyone.

-"But lotus is sentient so she bad"

And yet they start to contradict themselves, going back and forth stating sentients are either good or bad just to make the Lotus look bad.

-"Grineer and corpus r good"

Just no. Grineer executes humans. Corpus sell body parts and cryopods. I don't need to say more.

There's already enough evidence NOT to rebel against the lotus.

 

^ This.

 

Greneer are basically Nazi's who want to kill all who aren't greneer. 

 

Corpus are monsters who want to disect and sell creatures into slavery for money. 

 

Sentients tried to wipe out this galaxy and all who lived in it.

 

Orokin where savage monsters who inslaved eachother and races for reason even resorting into turning innocent children (Tenno) into weapons of war.

 

Tenno are genocidal manic creatures who go around the Galaxy murdering millions of greneer and Corpus for their so called BALANCE.

 

 

I think we have made it clear that no one is the "good guy" Tenno just have the least Galaxy ending role, and to our side the Lotus is the good guy. I think people ignore what the other factions agendas are. Most of them is either, destroy some race, or to put the other race into slavery. The Tenno's goal is to keep balance which is the least bad goal. Though again we do murder countless solders to achieve that goal.

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Developers have confirmed several time already that the Lotus is benevolent towards the Tenno. Besides, have you missed all of her motherly reactions over deaths of certain operators?

I swear these threads just make me imagine the posters as one of those guys who desperately want to be cool, edgy and different.

All my YES :|

U want to be cool? do someting else that make ya have a splendid achievement

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She has not lied by admission. She has not endangered us by omission. She saved us from the Grineer, she's empowered us against the Corpus. We are the Tenno- We are the ones in control because of her choice not to abandon us or outright kill us. There is no reason for her to be betraying us when we have called the shots on every mission thus far.

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Every piece of knowledge and lore I have ever laid eyes on, or have heard, points towards the Lotus being benevolent.
And everytime I hear messages such as these, I know it is a statement from ignorance. Because I have squandered in the darkness too. I have searched for truth and after feeling isolated from my fellow Tenno, I have finally found it where I should have seen it all along.

But I was curious. I wanted knowledge. Truth. And after I have found all I needed, I finally found the truth.

But there are those that search the truth. Like me. They may not be aligned with the Lotus, but they are curious. And although they may be sympathising, they will embrace the thruth when they see it.

 

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She has not lied by admission. She has not endangered us by omission. She saved us from the Grineer, she's empowered us against the Corpus. We are the Tenno- We are the ones in control because of her choice not to abandon us or outright kill us. There is no reason for her to be betraying us when we have called the shots on every mission thus far.

I don't want to follow her.That's my choice and i won't change it.Now i just have a reason not to follow her.

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I don't want to follow her.That's my choice and i won't change it.Now i just have a reason not to follow her.

 

because of who she was in the past? since she still did no harm to us and refused to kill us, i dont see why not to follow her.

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