Phoenix86 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I tought we could have seen new rifles with update 8, i mean fully new... maybe they added them in the dojo discovery thingy. As for now my choice is pending between Braton and Boltor (i'm not taking about shotguns so dont take them in consideration)... which one is the best for the mid-long range combats against corpus/grineers ? I didnt take in consideration Gorgon since it's even less accurate, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatcher Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethics Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Braton vandal for me, although i think the "Braton" is actually a bit better. Just polarised mine too, 2 V slots for maxed serration and split chamber, get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatcher Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 The Braton Vandal and Braton are the same weapons, just that the Braton Vandal is closed beta Exclusive and it has 1-3 more base damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethics Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Wiki has other differences (this could be out of date) Braton: Mastery Level 0 Type Automatic Rifle Base Damage 20.0 Base Firing Rate 11.3 Accuracy 28.6 Base Clip Size 45 Base Ammo Size 500 Base Reload Speed 2.3s Base Critical Chance 5% (Assumed) Base Critical Damage 150% Polarities None Vandal: Mastery Level 0 Type Automatic Rifle Base Damage 20.0 Base Firing Rate 9.4 Accuracy 33.3 Base Clip Size 45 Base Ammo Size 500 Base Reload Speed 2.3 (Assumed)s Base Critical Chance 7.5% Base Critical Damage 150% Polarities V Same damage but braton fires faster and slightly less accurate. Also the polarity slot so you can take the damage mods higher for less points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKhaun Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 All of them. This. With Forma's in the game so you can put anything you want on them, the weapons are now about form and function rather than stats. Eventually the game will escalate with newer meaner challenges and such, and by then the theory crafters will have your answers. Until then just use what you enjoy using, or use everything and farm rank (You do NOT gain rank leveling a weapon to 30 a second time with a Forma reset. I carefully tested this myself.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKhaun Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) None of the stats matter, even if a prime/regular have different damage or crit. Compared to before Formas the damage ceiling puts the worst weapon on par with the best previously. You can literally put a maxed out mod in every slot if you level your weapon 6-8 times. Eventually crit chance might matter if we get on-crit effects, but for now multishot + elemental mods will make anything you like shooting into a monster. Yes you could theory craft that some monsters are bigger and scarier than others, but I can't imagine anything arguing with eight maxed mods even in like an MK1-Braton. Edited May 24, 2013 by VKhaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 Well... i need something to "snipe" grineers when i feel my Hek could not reach them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) There's the Latron or Latron Prime for that purpose. Edited May 24, 2013 by Tulzscha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkGriswold Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I'm totally in love with my Boltor. It spews a metric feckload of rounds at an alarming rate. I love waiting outside of doors on defense missions and mowing down the whole group when they come pouring out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se05239 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 There is no "best" weapon. I like the Grakata for example. Or rather.. I LOVE IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3XT3RM1NATUS Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 This isn't Mass Effect 3. All rifles are good, but Burstron feels the weakest atm. I'd stick with Boltor and Grakata built for crits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0shi Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Forma / polarisation doesn't put worse weapons on par, it makes bad weapons even worse, because some of them are "balanced" around being worse by having a good polarity. That and giving percentage increases in damage to either weapon just changes the size of the gap between a bad weapon and a good one. Anyway, the worst rifle is the Burston (it's a less accurate Braton with no ability to single shot or full auto). I suspect the grakata is terrible. I've been told the gorgon is good, and I'm going to build one for fun, but it seems weak on paper. The best rifles are probably the two mentioned in the OP. Personally I'm very fond of my Boltor, I find the Braton feels very bland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethics Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I've stacked crit chance and damage on my Grakata (as reccomended on here) and it's a total CQB beast. Love using it. However it runs out of ammo at an alarming rate so is more of a fun gun than a serious business one. I find there's nothing that my Braton vandal doesn't do as well, with more efficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt_Cruelerz Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Regarding the Burston: It has its uses and is my weapon of choice due to the buffs over a few patches recently. It still can't fight infested (not a worry to me since I hate fighting infested anyways), but it's basically a headshot-focused long-range shotgun. Spread is now vertical, damage is higher, RoF can actually be increased, etc. As a result, it is actually a pretty good weapon at this point for medium-long range engagements if you care to be accurate. One pull of the trigger can down any non-heavy in the game at this point, and that's pre-forma. After sticking Fury on, you won't have to pull the trigger faster than the bursts are ready (or at least I can't target enemy heads that fast). Idk, I love it. I'm not saying that it couldn't use a bit more love now that formas have been added and part of its power relied on that polarity. If it were to get buffed again, I'd recommend the following: -20% reduction in reload speed (would help with larger encounters where sustained damage is needed) -Increase RoF by 10% (increase DPS for heavier targets) Edited May 24, 2013 by Volt_Cruelerz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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