Kahruvel Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) 1. 5 Forma for 100 Platinum, assuming none was procured through RNG. 2. 100 Platinum = $6.66. 3. Dojo Short Hallway requires 5 Forma. Edited May 24, 2013 by Kahruvel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teleo Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Market items have always been overpriced, and dojo costs are meant to be split among several members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkras Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Market items have always been overpriced, and dojo costs are meant to be split among several members. How are you going to split platinum/RNG? More importantly, why does this rare material have to be required for a hallway. Let me say that again. A hallway. Edited May 24, 2013 by Sinkras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhoyzu Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 ^ and im assuming they dont want everyone to max out their dojos within a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPaul7 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Would be much better if the dojo could realistically be made by all member without paying. Would rather use up 10k alloy plates than 5 forma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ferret- Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Did I hear something like "Mum!"? It's alpha and was just released. Just be patient. There's no need to buy Forma. The more members you have the higher the chance that some of your members will find some Forma playing alerts. Building a Dojo will not and shouldn't be done in two days. Edited May 24, 2013 by Raucherkaffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKhaun Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Completely irrelevant when available for free. It's X time -OR- $6.66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onite Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Completely irrelevant when available for free. It's X time -OR- $6.66. X time is looking like over 6 months atleast. 6 months. Half a year. For a hallway. Did I hear something like "Mum!"? It's alpha and was just released. Just be patient. There's no need to buy Forma. The more members you have the higher the chance that some of your members will find some Forma playing alerts. Building a Dojo will not and shouldn't be done in two days. Alpha and just released is no excuse when this is a feature they're asking for real currency for. They even delayed the release of update 8 to take more time working on it. And yet it still came out with this forma problem. I dont expect dojos to be done overnight, but if we're looking from now to thanksgiving to make...a hallway. Thats some inane garbage. And i've seen some inane garbage in my time in videogames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiMute Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Did I hear something like "Mum!"? It's alpha and was just released. Just be patient. There's no need to buy Forma. The more members you have the higher the chance that some of your members will find some Forma playing alerts. Building a Dojo will not and shouldn't be done in two days. Wonder how long will it take for some random member in a huge clan to decide that its time to invest some forma because they want to upgrade their favorite warframe and weapon first... Edited May 24, 2013 by Vesper11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanCipher Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 it gets even worse when you realize that forma is used for the "prestige" system, so now you're asking me to use something that'll make me more powerful and give me better mod options (in theory) for stuff in the clan dojo... why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madotsuki Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Okay i just want to confirm, are Formas either plat-only or only available from the log-in reward? Like, are there Alerts for them? Because if there are alerts i don't mind that much :/ Still stupid to need 5 Forma for a HALLWAY though. For an actual structure like the dueling arena or even the lab, sure, why not, but a HALLWAY?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahruvel Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 Okay i just want to confirm, are Formas either plat-only or only available from the log-in reward? Like, are there Alerts for them? Because if there are alerts i don't mind that much :/ Still stupid to need 5 Forma for a HALLWAY though. For an actual structure like the dueling arena or even the lab, sure, why not, but a HALLWAY?? They can still drop from Alerts, and through Void Missions. I don't mind this either, honestly. It's fine if they're rare. But the price of a hallway or elevator should not be 5 Forma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohira Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Tnargraef/What_to_do_about_Clan_Dojos:_Day_1 Edited May 24, 2013 by Kohira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahruvel Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Tnargraef/What_to_do_about_Clan_Dojos:_Day_1 I don't understand. That links to a blank article. Now it doesn't! Edited May 24, 2013 by Kahruvel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barhandar Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Rebalance the costs. Same Forma price for 10 meter hallway and extremely complex reactor? Ridiculous. Hallways shouldn't even cost Forma, _or_ Forma should have chance to be given as _additional_ reward for the Void missions. By the way, about these missions? Rewards are personal, right? Make it so parts you already have have less chance to drop that ones you don't. Edited May 24, 2013 by Barhandar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohira Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I don't understand. That links to a blank article. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixEXO Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Rebalance the costs. Same Forma price for 10 meter hallway and extremely complex dev lab? Ridiculous. Hallways shouldn't even cost Forma, _or_ Forma should have chance to be given as _additional_ reward for the Void missions. By the way, about these missions? Rewards are personal, right? Make it so parts you already have have less chance to drop that ones you don't. Agreed. Forma should not be a cost in hallways and space expanding rooms. I would prefer if Forma is restricted only to useful rooms such as Generator, Oracle, Manufacturing Rooms, Dojo and so on. Edited May 24, 2013 by matrixEXO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahruvel Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 Fixed. Thanks, I amended my quote above too! That's a really detailed analysis of the issue, good show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countess_Hapmuhr Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 1. 5 Forma for 100 Platinum, assuming none was procured through RNG. 2. 100 Platinum = $6.66. 3. Dojo Short Hallway requires 5 Forma. And that's not even including the materials needed which equals time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebubbles Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 What, does everyone expect the clan dojos to be grand palaces by day two of U8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceRadiance Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 EVERYTHING!! RIGHT NOW!! FOR FREE!! EVERYTHING!! RIGHT NOW!! FOR FREE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebubbles Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 EVERYTHING!! RIGHT NOW!! FOR FREE!! EVERYTHING!! RIGHT NOW!! FOR FREE!! LOL exactly. I mean yeah, forma is important right now for the individual player, but eventually, as more people have weapons forma'd up, they'll have more spares. Everyone just needs to chill. Besides, there should be some notion of personal sacrifice when you're supporting a community cause. You want to contribute to and be part of a clan, it SHOULD have an impact on you personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carillon Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 What, does everyone expect the clan dojos to be grand palaces by day two of U8? even a tiny clan should be able to build one of these mind-numbingly worthless hallways on day 1. seriously, you need ~4 of them to cover the same distance as a cross connector. which costs the same amount as only 1 hallway, and has 2 extra doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebubbles Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) They may have to fix the costs for some of the items a bit, but my point is that they shouldn't be cheap, and frankly, a smaller clan shouldn't be able to afford the massive shiny palace that a larger clan can. Dojo size should correlate pretty directly to its clan members' aggregate gameplay time. edit: or real money spent, if you have rich members throwing platinum around :D Edited May 24, 2013 by Beelzebubbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KageNoShini Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) but still, a rare material to make a hallway, can you really justify that? unless they make the forma optional, forma hallway == decorated and shiny, non-forma hallway == simple hallway with minor furnishing, because if you wanna wait for someone to forma their favorite set up 26 times min(6*3 per weapon + 8 for frame), be my guest. Of course a small clan can have what a large clan has, eventually, if the dojo doesn't get infinitely expanded with new content, cause then there is a cap to what you can build, in which case smaller clans eventually catch up. Edited May 24, 2013 by KageNoShini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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