Zerdfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 'Insanely expensive crafting requirement'- hardly. It's just two forma and some resources. Don't like that, do a t3 mission, a high class starmap mission, or even derelict and sellable mods drop in mission, or towers drop bp's/parts that you can sell for 5-25 plat a pop. This feels like the absolute incarnation of the entitlement generation. You are literally adding a brand new slot to work with, that is a massive amount of power in the form of flexibility and warframe usability. These complaint threads are going to eventually be what kills me. Leaves a terrible taste in my mouth to hear people complain after being given opportunity. I dont care about the ressources, or the formas. It's the 50k simaris standing that is pissing me off ... So much about the new slot, when they were 1st removed. Now they are reintroduced and we have to pay to benefit from it ? If I am from the entitlement generation, you are from the genration that like being ripped off, or the wallet warrior generation ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerdfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Alright I'm just going to touch a bunch of things at once: 1) It's free. So is AIDS, so is Parkinson's. Just because it's free, doesn't mean it's good. 2) This is for "experienced people". Third time I'm saying this : a high price is still high regardless of how much money you have in your pocket. 3) You get so much for that amount! For one, you really don't. And i thought you said it wasn't necessary. 4) It's not necessary to play the game. Neither are arcanes and their tax got cut from 500k to 200k. That is also your opinion. There was also a bunch of people who thought coptering wasn't necessary and yet most people did it. We want mobility. Tons of it. This gives you the mobility that you lost with the update. It's like modding your melee for coptering with rush, berserker, quickening, etc. 5) Eh, forma is easy to get and I have plenty Same as 2). 6) It's something to work towards No, it is not. Something to work towards is building in preparation for a boss fight, a raid, some sort of actual content. This is not content. DE could have very easily and absolutely understandably simply added the slot without having to build the device. Instead they made it so you have to spend 3 days worth of scanning, 2 days worth of forma and a bunch of resources which people farm for a reason: they're rare. If you think this is endgame material or some sort of progression system, you are thoroughly mistaken. Do you really believe someone at DE went "Ya know these people who have everything already? Let's make them do S#&$ no one really does for some really basic S#&$ like improved movement!"? Damn I couldnt have said it better. Thanks man ! Mobility is not end game, or for rich people or whatever, it's basically the only thing you will use from the first second you start to play until you stop ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olematon.Mies Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Okay. Fine. I'm done. There's no hope for you people. Let's just give everyone the ability to teleport to any location on the map instantaneously with no energy cost and call it done. Agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostar Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I say make it cost 100K Rep and make the BP reusable, that would even things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Just the more reason of this being totally optional.Why do you wanna use it if it will lock your frame to a single build?Cause reasons? i DONT want to use it under those circumstances. That is my point. As it it now it's completely useless to me ... and i don't want useless things in this game especially when heralded as a way to have more flexibility and the outcome is the complete opposite. The fact that so many are saying the same thing and are dissatisfied with the implementation is clearly an indication that something is not right. Let me pay NOT to grind .... i'm sure as hell not going to pay to grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkano Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 weapons 2.0 we improve the gamplay so you can go more ninja! we open a brand new slot to add utility to your primaries. this mod slot will allow you to reload, zoom and puch trhough among others. you can buy the slot in the market for 20 pl or you can craft that by using 2 formas 1 Exilus adapter and 50k (sorry we forgot to say that you can craft this in the patch notes). hope you enjoy your update you people are awesome <3 Formu: thanks De for the new slot!! seriously guys i have no problem puting money again in the game to get a scarf or a hat or a badass skin but im not paying for the bike that you take away from me. the game is really amazing is a shame that now i need to grind in order to grind. it hurst in my soul, this game was one of the last game that i really enjoy/like. thanks anyways was a very fun experience to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerdfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) I say make it cost 100K Rep and make the BP reusable, that would even things out. That would be acceptable. And I am the patient type of people, that can consider more than 48h crafting and an extra forma on a warframe an acceptable solution ... Edited August 3, 2015 by Zerdfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudman88 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 20 plat = price of forma = price of orokin catalyst = price of orokin reactor nessecary? end game yes, starting no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerdfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Mobility is not end game stuff ... it's basically the only thing you will use from the first second you start to play until you stop ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudman88 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I dont care about the ressources, or the formas. It's the 50k simaris standing that is pissing me off ... So much about the new slot, when they were 1st removed. Now they are reintroduced and we have to pay to benefit from it ? If I am from the entitlement generation, you are from the genration that like being ripped off, or the wallet warrior generation ... LOL again with the 10 slot only use 1 skill warrior. Just dont use that slot. It will not affect you much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerdfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What affects me is the new super slow Parkour 2.0. Which I have no choice to use ... And if I want to go faster, what do I need ? See my problem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EetNotErn Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 So much entitlement. We went 2+ years without this slot yet some of you are acting like you're totally screwed if you don't get the slot right this moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerdfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 So much entitlement. We went 2+ years without this slot yet some of you are acting like you're totally screwed if you don't get the slot right this moment. What affects me is the new super slow Parkour 2.0. Which I have no choice to use ... And if I want to go faster, what do I need ? See my problem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Your argument doesn't justifies anything by the way. They need free players almost to the extent they need the paying players. My argument justified everything, it's free. You are complaining it takes too long to get it for nothing. They need free players to play to longer periods of time. Paying players just need to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudman88 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What affects me is the new super slow Parkour 2.0. Which I have no choice to use ... And if I want to go faster, what do I need ? See my problem ? Wtf, during parkour does health duration or strngth mode affects you? no it doesnt just unequip those and equip with speed mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerdfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Wtf, during parkour does health duration or strngth mode affects you? no it doesnt just unequip those and equip with speed mods. What kind of logic is that lol We are talking about the parkour and movement in general where is the link with vitality ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f3llyn Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) And optional is still optional. It's an option to not play the game, too. Saying we shouldn't talk about something like this purely because it's optional is nonsense. The entire point of this forum is to talk about the game and give feedback. DE needs to hear it, you don't. So if you don't like what people are saying you can also take the option to not read the forums, Edited August 3, 2015 by f3llyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EetNotErn Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What affects me is the new super slow Parkour 2.0. Which I have no choice to use ... And if I want to go faster, what do I need ? See my problem ? Gee, how come I don't have your "problem"? If my frames are too slow I just put a Rush mod in a regular slot. Stop acting so entitled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalsherman Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) As someone who's been playing this game a long time I have to say the big issue here is the rep per BP. I know DE wants people to actually bother to do scanning runs but this is just a bit too much. Resources can be farmed fairly easily and even standard rep can be as well but simaris rep is a bit more difficult to gather. I'm not asking for this thing to be free but would it be ok to drop it to like 30k rep maybe even 25k? BTW people, it is possible to complain about things and not be entitled. Some people just have diffrent tolerances for their effort-per-rewards ratio. Edited August 3, 2015 by Generalsherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--Ascended-Seraphim Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Make the BP reusable at least please. 3 days of scans at MR19 at 20k rep cap is seriously not fun at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lNogardl Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It's an option to not play the game, too. Saying we shouldn't talk about something like this purely because it's optional is nonsense. The entire point of this forum is to talk about the game and give feedback. DE needs to hear it, you don't. So if you don't like what people are saying you can also take the option to not read the forums, /thread, gg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkano Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It's an option to not play the game, too. Saying we shouldn't talk about something like this purely because it's optional is nonsense. The entire point of this forum is to talk about the game and give feedback. DE needs to hear it, you don't. So if you don't like what people are saying you can also take the option to not read the forums, if all this isnt feedback im kirby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroShiranui Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Make the BP reusable at least please. 3 days of scans at MR19 at 20k rep cap is seriously not fun at all. I second this, but still, we need to tone down the requirements a bit. Maybe minus 1 forma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)savoy123 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Needing 2 forma to build each one is too much, when you will likely have to forma 1 or 2 times in order to fit a utility mod on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EetNotErn Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'm fine with constructive feedback. Hell, I think the rep requirement is excessive and should be toned down to maybe half of what it is currently. However, the people who are acting like their game is ruined because of this is ridiculous. If you REALLY feel that slow with Parkour 2.0 then just use a regular slot for a Rush mod. If I can fit it in when I need to then so can you. Stop acting like it's impossible and that the only solution is a utility slot. Like I said before, we went 2+ years without a utility slot, you'll do just fine for a couple of days or a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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