Zurakci Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I am reeeaaally happy with the 8 patch. Dojo is fine looking thing, the Grineer ships are awesome. But one thing is bothering me.. the FORMA (my opinion... So say what you want.. I dont like it one bit xP ) Currently right now Forma can only be obtained from random login reward (which we all know is pretty broken) or be bought for 20 Plat. It takes about 4 or so FORMA for 1 room in the Dojo. Something tells me that this is their nr 1 cash wall for this game and of course it would worked on me if I werent broke. But why cant you craft these out from the shop? or even buy them? This is a reeeaaal dirty trick. I dont really like that idea at all. Anyone else who think that FORMA should be easier to obtain, or atleast be a blueprint buyable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsVampyre Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 It takes 5 forma for a hallway. That's 100 platinum for a hallway. If you want a room, you're looking at something like 30 or more Forma. 600 platinum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djula Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 That looks like Pay to Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Woah woah. I thought they said they were random drops and alert missions too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Rebecca Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Currently you can get Forma by:Platinum, Login Rewards, ? Alert Rewards, or possible Mission Complete Rewards for missions in "The Void". It is indeed rare, but can be obtained several ways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Yeah, that's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djula Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Currently you can get Forma by: Platinum, Login Rewards, ? Alert Rewards, or possible Mission Complete Rewards for missions in "The Void". It is indeed rare, but can be obtained several ways... good to know btw: can you pls lock the old alerts now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonicbullitt Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 this game is becoming more p2w . A soloution to this could be completly removing the forma requirement or making it more easier to obtain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 this game is becoming more p2w . A soloution to this could be completly removing the forma requirement or making it more easier to obtain Or showing players how to get it. Ignorance breeds hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relkin Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Seems like void missions are the main way to get Forma, but void missions themselves are RNG so its RNG ontop of RNG making it uber rare...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Seems like void missions are the main way to get Forma, but void missions themselves are RNG so its RNG ontop of RNG making it uber rare...... Still not as bad as Diablo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltina Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Currently you can get Forma by: Platinum, Login Rewards, ? Alert Rewards, or possible Mission Complete Rewards for missions in "The Void". It is indeed rare, but can be obtained several ways... So rebecca hows those vaubin alerts going. We gonna see a second piece ever? I wish I could have seen a forma from the void instead of the glitched reaper bps and the giant pile of latron prime stocks and blueprints. The problem is forma is not just used for clans its also used for personal progression which makes it difficult for medium to small clans to get their members to contribute in proper amounts. A 5 forma hallway to get started is a big hump and getting people to contribute when you have to go 50 forma before you can even start your first research is difficult. Your asking most of your clan to give up personal progression for a unknown large amount of time for the ability to even start research for a blueprint. Edited May 24, 2013 by Meltina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 So rebecca hows those vaubin alerts going. We gonna see a second piece ever? Egg on your face. The helm alert was 2 hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltina Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Egg on your face. The helm alert was 2 hours ago. I just missed it. Mmm my foot is tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon7 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 this game is becoming more p2w . A soloution to this could be completly removing the forma requirement or making it more easier to obtain You don't become "more" p2w, your either p2w or your not. p2w isn't quantifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flunky Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Currently you can get Forma by: Platinum, Login Rewards, ? Alert Rewards, or possible Mission Complete Rewards for missions in "The Void". It is indeed rare, but can be obtained several ways... several absurdly dumb ways, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsVampyre Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Egg on your face. The helm alert was 2 hours ago. 1 per week is more rare that potatoes. DERebecca said they wouldn't be that rare; I didn't realize she really meant they wouldn't be as common as potato alerts. So how common do you think Forma will be? At least as rare as potatoes. Void keys seem to be the only way people can farm them, but you have to farm the keys, then you have to farm the missions and hope the RNG there gives you forma. And if you get the wrong BP instead, it wipes your progress for that mission out and eats the key (which I do think is a bug). But someone said that his 20 person clan picked up 4 already... 4 total for 20 people over a 12 hour timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostlightX Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 That looks like Pay to Win What do you win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pisirk Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Currently you can get Forma by: Platinum, Login Rewards, ? Alert Rewards, or possible Mission Complete Rewards for missions in "The Void". It is indeed rare, but can be obtained several ways... No matter how many ways you can obtain it, it still doesn't change the fact that it's very rare. 1 % chance getting it over here, 1 % chance getting it over there...so on and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zantestsuken Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Currently you can get Forma by: Platinum, Login Rewards, ? Alert Rewards, or possible Mission Complete Rewards for missions in "The Void". It is indeed rare, but can be obtained several ways... Platinum: wich I have but thought to spend them wisely enough, because 50 € are still 50 €. It was my idea to spend such an ammount of money because this game is made as any other game on the market and deserved to receive its right support from everyone. I didn't need any platinum because this game was balanced for everyone. There was farming, now we all know where this is going. Login Rewards: Don't want to make a fuss about it, but we all know that is rare as World Peace. ? Alert Rewards: "Did I get some For... ah! Ok... Just some Sniper scavenger, AGAIN!" Possible Mission Rewards: I'll have you know that I took a break from work today, told them I was sick. because I wanted to play this Update 8 and everything. This was my devotion for WF. After 35 games today I haven't farmed ANYTHING. Plus in those 35 games there were some ? Alerts. Although one of them gave me Vauban Helmet bp. So in the end you failed me. Really bad. I was happy to share this game with my friends and all. Even though someone ranted about how hard was crafting without plats I praised their "Patience". Now I'm gonna teach their grandsons about patience. Edit: Don't get me wrong. Using Forma for weapons is right, promoting bp is fair (keep them busy until there are more contents), putting a Ultrararetoget WF that costs 300 plat- I can understand that-, I can try to set my mind to an extent and understand the whole Void key mental process you guys made, but farming materials for the Dojo is hard as it is already! Putting that forma trap was cheap. Edited May 24, 2013 by Zantestsuken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feam Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) "Well, you cant get a toptier weapon without waiting for the RNG in alerts or paying for a potato... but oh boy DE Just announced a POLARIZING feature! That means I can simply farm my weapons to a high capacity instead of pay for them." That was me post Livestream #3 or so. Then Forma costs exactly like a potato. Otherwise, you can get it from: RNG, RNG, Payment + RNG (Buy a void key, get a lucky reward), Payment, and RNG + RNG (Find a void key and get the random reward?). I don't know what to believe in anymore. Edited May 24, 2013 by Feam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxyninja Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 people have found forma in a defense mission as a reward, but that is still rare. i think DE needs to remove forma from hallways/connectors or make them only require 1 forma. even my 200+ clan is having trouble finding forma. Atm its a bit too rare and adding more things into the alter system makes it even rarer since alerts are randomly generated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyworld Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Yeah, the whole 'forma ' idea is a good one. However, I think it is need of refinement. I love leveling up my vandal again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown924 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I agree with the current Forma costs being a problem. That is why I have a max Forma cost of 1(or 0 for corridors) for Low tier rooms in my idea thread here:https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/50238-a-dojo-solution-make-current-rooms-top-tier-cosmestic-upgrades-add-much-cheaper-and-worse-looking-versions-of-rooms-for-smaller-clans/ I don't see a problem with cosmetic Dojo upgrades costing Forma since it would not be mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFOE Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Update 8 has only been here for 1 day. It seems people are getting impatient and don't feel like farming at all. Sure, it takes a lot of formas to expand the dojo, but considering clans are capable of contributing to the cause, it really isn't that much work. Some clans have 50+ members, so 5 forma is really not that big of a deal. I think scaling the material requirements to clan size is much more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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