Really Disappointed With The New Melee Weapons

[Oranjeboom]

Basically the machete and dual cleavers

 

Machete is 1 handed (was surprised), single target sword with nothing...interesting, its like a reskined skana...

 

Dual Cleavers are exactly the same as dual zoren...just no reason to pick them over zoren

 

so much potential, wasted.

 

[Probta16]

What you suggest?

[FernandoBloom]

I can vouch for the scythes being quite nice though.

[-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS-]

Just browsed through the stats on the Warframe Wikia... It's not pretty.

BUT.

If the snipetron is anything to go by... These weapons, like the Grakata, etc. will probably disappear when the game goes final. I don't know more than anyone else here in the forums, but it only makes sense as these Grineer weapons aren't really even sidegrades. Collectors though would find it attractive to have the weapons of the enemy in their arsenal.

Pure speculation on my part, but what other reasons would DE have for releasing them?

Edited May 24, 2013 by sushidubya

[LordofTibera]

Yeah i like the machete for a skin but yeah im already disappointed with stats.

[TheChaffeemancer]

Dual Cleavers are exactly the same as dual zoren...just no reason to pick them over zoren

 

so much potential, wasted.

 

Dual Cleavers do 25 base damage to the Zoren's 15.

 

Zorens have a 2.0 fire rate while Cleavers have 1.3.

[Oranjeboom]

Dual Cleavers do 25 base damage to the Zoren's 15.

 

Zorens have a 2.0 fire rate while Cleavers have 1.3.

 

Ah yea was thinking Ether, which have 5 more dmg, still i see no reason to get cleavers.

[HomeyCDawg]

DE could play with the numbers a bit to differentiate them from existing weapons, if they want to.

 

I'd suggest simple stuff, like making cleaver/machete less powerful but faster than their counterparts, or vise versa. Or perhaps they could add some special effects like an inherit elemental. Just a thought.

Edited May 24, 2013 by HomeyCDawg

[Zectifin]

What about the machete? It should at least allow you to turn into danny trejo for a short time.

Edited May 24, 2013 by xcom85

[TheChaffeemancer]

You want more damage over fire rate. It's not that absurd to pick one over the other. It's like having an option of getting one of the 20 different types of long swords. There's not much reason to take all of them, but each has pros and cons.

[Archistopheles]

Even adding unique death animations or swing animations would be enough.

[Hybridon]

Just browsed through the stats on the Warframe Wikia... It's not pretty.

BUT.

If the snipetron is anything to go by... These weapons, like the Grakata, etc. will probably disappear when the game goes final. I don't know more than anyone else here in the forums, but it only makes sense as these Grineer weapons aren't really even sidegrades. Collectors though would find it attractive to have the weapons of the enemy in their arsenal.

Pure speculation on my part, but what other reasons would DE have for releasing them?

 

collectors get slots to have all the guns, or to max them out to get mastery points, thats why new guns are released.

 

And on topic, just cause a new weapon is released, doesnt mean it will be better than current ones, some will be better, others worse, it all depends truely, and some people might just find Dual Cleavers nicer, as you prefer Dual Zoren. =)

[-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS-]

Even adding unique death animations or swing animations would be enough.

Yeah. At the moment the only motivation I have for getting them is to collect and level for mastery points. These are going to be credit and foundry builds for me. (I'm speaking specifically about the new Grineer Melee weps.)

[Oranjeboom]

They could make them something similar to fargor, with the armor piercing and stuff...too many "extra dmg vs infested" to choose from

Or give them something elemental

or new animation / sounds

 

anything to make me pick them instead of something i already own at lvl 30 and prolly supercharged too.

[-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS-]

collectors get slots to have all the guns, or to max them out to get mastery points, thats why new guns are released.

 

And on topic, just cause a new weapon is released, doesnt mean it will be better than current ones, some will be better, others worse, it all depends truely, and some people might just find Dual Cleavers nicer, as you prefer Dual Zoren. =)

lol you read my mind...

[TheChaffeemancer]

They could make them something similar to fargor, with the armor piercing and stuff...too many "extra dmg vs infested" to choose from

Or give them something elemental

or new animation / sounds

 

anything to make me pick them instead of something i already own at lvl 30 and prolly supercharged too.

 

Got level 30 Dual Zorens that are super charged. The Dual Clevers are a neat little thing, but not worth picking up if you are happy with the Zorens. Would probably opt for using Cleavers if not for having that potato in the axes.

 

However no new animations is starting to get grating. How many weapons are gonna use the exact same attack pattern?

Edited May 24, 2013 by TheChaffeemancer

[-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS-]

Got level 30 Dual Zorens that are super charged. The Dual Clevers are a neat little thing, but not worth picking up if you are happy with the Zorens. Would probably opt for using Cleavers if not for having that potato in the axes.

 

However no new animations is starting to get grating. How many weapons are gonna use the exact same attack pattern?

You'd have thought they've played Ninja Gaiden before. LOL. Though mo-capping that stuff must be intensely difficult, it would add so much to Warframe. Then again, Ryu Hayabusa had no guns or special powers (well he had some powers though didn't he) I wouldn't write it off for the future. If progression from U7-8 is anything to go by we're going to lots more toys in the future.

Edited May 24, 2013 by sushidubya

[Kantazo]

I want a water gun.... ;) (sarcasm intended)

[Keie]

so much potential, wasted.

Complaint with no actual suggestions.

 

Dear DE please add a lipstick melee equip, So I can kiss eveyone to death.

[Oranjeboom]

Complaint with no actual suggestions.

 

Dear DE please add a lipstick melee equip, So I can kiss eveyone to death.

 suggested a few posts later.

but really you dont see a problem when a new melee weapon comes out and its identical with the starter weapon? outclassed by 90% of the other weapons?

[Archistopheles]

I want a water gun.... ;) (sarcasm intended)

 

I want a water gun in all seriousness.

 

pew pew

[GratuitousLurking]

Just browsed through the stats on the Warframe Wikia... It's not pretty.

BUT.

If the snipetron is anything to go by... These weapons, like the Grakata, etc. will probably disappear when the game goes final. I don't know more than anyone else here in the forums, but it only makes sense as these Grineer weapons aren't really even sidegrades. Collectors though would find it attractive to have the weapons of the enemy in their arsenal.

Pure speculation on my part, but what other reasons would DE have for releasing them?

 

Snipetron was only temp removed because it wasn't shooting lazors yet.

 

As for all the other weapons, mostly I assume for Mastery rank, specific thematic loadouts (full grineer for a challenge?) or just for style reasons. It's the same reason why people still vouch for the Grakata even now.

[TheChaffeemancer]

Snipetron was only temp removed because it wasn't shooting lazors yet.

 

 

This has not been confirmed, unless they stated it later. They never said it was a temporary or a permanent removal.

[HomeyCDawg]

I want a water gun in all seriousness.

 

pew pew

 

Buy a Lato and paint it hot pink and yellow. That's what I did to mine because it felt like a squirtgun.

[Swarovsky]

where is this "machete" i dont see any of those on the marketplace, only cleavers