DeathwingZero Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 The way it seems to me is that Prime Parts will still be attached to Void Keys, just not the Void Tileset. In other words, I could do Apollodorus, Mercury, but I could somehow augment the mission by using a Void Key before entering, and then I will receive a Prime Part at the end of Apollodorus. Specific keys will probably only be able to augment certain mission types and level ranges. There's some speculation in that, but it's my general understanding currently. Considering they said void keys will still be useful, I'd say that's a pretty close bet, if not dead on the mark. Like you said though, some speculation. Until they know for sure how and what they'll be doing, and we're provided with that information, we just don't know. I do like that idea though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arman276 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 EB doesnt give you immortality.... also this is valkyr, nobody gives a F*** about valkyr. Not DE, not players. Only reason why she gets new skin and some rework is probably because scott and art team lost a bet against Rebecca and megan. And they hope new skin will sell. Are you sure nobody gives a F*** about Valkyr, therefore they're reworking her? Are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SofeSNBR Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Are you sure nobody gives a F*** about Valkyr, therefore they're reworking her? Are you sure? Well if you loose a bet you do what you are demanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)EvilFlowerChild Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Well if you loose a bet you do what you are demanded. Now you're just being extremely pessimistic and negative for ..no reasons? I don't understand why you're bashing your ..favourite frame? She's getting a buff, a skin, a statue, what else you want? I'm extremely happy , valkyr needed this buff, sure I'll have to change my build and (hopefully not) swap some polarities, but hey as i said in another thead, she'll finally be viable in endgame, and not only for her tankiness or scindo prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishteen Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 The way it seems to me is that Prime Parts will still be attached to Void Keys, just not the Void Tileset. In other words, I could do Apollodorus, Mercury, but I could somehow augment the mission by using a Void Key before entering, and then I will receive a Prime Part at the end of Apollodorus. Specific keys will probably only be able to augment certain mission types and level ranges. There's some speculation in that, but it's my general understanding currently. My hope is that it will work much like Void Sabotage currently - a portal device exists somewhere in the mission, which you can then approach and activate with a key. I believe this was Steve's original plan for the Void (heard about it secondhand, take this with a whole shakerful of salt), before they went for broke and stuck with the current key mechanic instead. Well if you loose a bet you do what you are demanded. Assuming there was even a bet to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleBomber Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I understand why they want to "blow up the Void" as it was put, but it would be a real shame if the Void tileset itself isn't retained in some manner (maybe the portal idea above, I dunno). Regardless of whatever mechanics are making us run through it, the Void is still one of the most beautiful tilesets in the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 until they nerf it back to useless yay... cuz you know its still has god-mode.... and if its damage gets close to EB.... you will see nerf so hard that game will physically punch you. Anything that lets the damage get out of its fast drop off to anemic levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhekemi Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 "Timed exclusive" We are eligible for it 30 days later. Also not that the Chinese Warframe build is many builds behind us, We get everythign else before them. Also this is a Open beta special. I don't see an issue. Nope. It's not an issue. It wouldn't make much sense if an American Legend inspires a WarFrame concept, but is first released to China. Wu Kong is inspired by a centuries old Chinese Legend. There's nothing wrong with China getting him first. With regard to the two new frames...I am a bit disappointed that Atlas was billed as a brawler, but is, in fact, an Earth frame. I know everyone hinted at this most likely going to be the case, but eh. Would've preferred more brawling. Hopefully they can work all kinds of cool synergy ideas into him. Like gaining new combos on his #1 depending on what elemental frame he's paired with. Or maybe being able to bounce and ragdoll enemies around with his golems in some interesting combos that only activate when interacting with golems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhekemi Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I wasn't taking shots. I apologise if I offended you. I don't know about Vauban Style alerts. What I described is how it sounded to me, and as I said it's not a concrete plan so I don't know how they'll do it. I think they said the parts will rotate and there should always be parts available, but I could easily be remembering incorrectly. ... Am I the only one who feels this is an alcohol induced statement and not an actual game plan? I mean.. the point of Grindframe is to increase the grind. So it would seem, anyway. I just find it hard to believe considering they said something like that a year or two ago and it's only gotten worse. That said it's also a vague statement. "Reduced grind" could easily mean instead of 200 missions to get to rank 30, it'll instead take 199. So I guess we'll see. Is that coming in 17.5 also? I didn't mean to sound like I was salty, either. (I wasn't.) Apology accepted and thanks again for the breakdown. As for Archwing, I rarely play the missions unless it's mandatory. As a result my related equipment ranks are still in the low teens. It isn't a question of the grind being too hard, I think, but that I just don't play enough missions with Archwing to start with. So, I don't know how making the grind easier will help, either. (At least in my case.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovusNova Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Just popped in to inform everyone that Rebecca has confirmed that U17.5 is not next week. As per: Valkyr is coming with 17.5, but 17.5 is not coming next week! https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/530186-thanks-for-watching-devstream-60/?p=5946756 Thank you for making this summary AM-Bunny, very nice to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Just popped in to inform everyone that Rebecca has confirmed that U17.5 is not next week. As per: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/530186-thanks-for-watching-devstream-60/?p=5946756 Thank you for making this summary AM-Bunny, very nice to read. Thanks NovusNova, if not next week i'd bet its going to be september 30th ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 tahnks for the overview. I appreciate the time you take to make these, usually playing when the stream goes live. overall, I'd say all of these things mentioned are pretty good. there's gonna be some salt over the Mesa rework though. (personally I'm all for it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-Bunny Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Just popped in to inform everyone that Rebecca has confirmed that U17.5 is not next week. Well that's disappointing. Here's hoping that next week's hotfix comes with the Corpus Credit Cape :/ I understand why they want to "blow up the Void" as it was put, but it would be a real shame if the Void tileset itself isn't retained in some manner (maybe the portal idea above, I dunno). Regardless of whatever mechanics are making us run through it, the Void is still one of the most beautiful tilesets in the whole game. They've confirmed that the tileset itself will remain - just its status as the 'hotspot for everything' will disappear, and the rewards will be spread amongst the starchart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhekemi Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Getting a better understanding of what's going on with the Void now. Thanks, everyone. (Still haven't watched the stream yet.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-Bunny Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Getting a better understanding of what's going on with the Void now. Thanks, everyone. (Still haven't watched the stream yet.) Haha, they don't really talk about it at all in the stream - this information being shared currently is a composite of everything mentioned since Tennolive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyRamen Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thanks DE for nerfing the game. You may now forget end game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaruis Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thanks DE for nerfing the game. You may now forget end game.Yeah.How sad you can no longer do 24/7 t4 defense with mesa. Totally an ignorant move from DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kira4715 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 No news on saryn rework :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camelslayer Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Atlas has no uppercut. I am disappoint. Corpus Modular Enemies • Coming U 17.5 • Each Warframe power has been categorized - the Modular Corpus Enemies have helmets that can interrupt and disrupt certain categories • This disruption effect can be blocked by terrain • Their helmets can be removed with a well-placed shot, de-powering them Oh boy, more annoying Corpus enemies. • Experimenting with base damage increasing as weapon levels up rather than being tied to a mod And people thought I was dumb for suggesting this. Hah. Thanks DE for nerfing the game. You may now forget end game. They're attempting to rebalance it. Perhaps you could wait until we find out whether these changes are good or bad before instantly bashing it. Seems like the smarter thing to do. Edited September 18, 2015 by Camelslayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-Bunny Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Atlas has no uppercut. I am disappoint. Third hit of his punch combo seems to be an uppercut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoguro Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 coming home from work and getting all that exciting news waited for shure long for smth like the monkey king ^^) ok, you got me again in the best way, DE, thank you (^^my deep respect and thx goes also as usual to bunny ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Minus Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 The logic is simple, the execution not so much. The logic is that void drop tables are dilluted and people constantly complain about it. DE is at least trying to figure out a way to do something about that. Removing some parts (Frost, Mag, etc,) was part of that. They'll come back, but the void "exploding" is that all prime parts will be moved to the star chart instead. They don't know how they'll do it exactly. Last I head the plan was a "sort of alert" like system, where, say, Ash Prime Helmet appears on.. say Ceres - Egeria. But the tileset, and mission type will be random, so as not to be so dull. This will come along with the Star Chart being compacted to some 20-40 nodes or something like that, rather than the 100+ there is now. Lots of people are quite unhappy about the idea. I for one am glad they decided to do something rather than keep adding Tower levels so we don't wind up with Tower 30 rotation C 0.0000001% chance to drop parts. Let's hope prime parts are not only limited to Alerts, I've missed couple of great mods from alerts because I simply can't play warframe at that point in time the Alert happens. Or maybe they do 24/48h Alerts for selected parts, however looking at how many parts there are, the would have to be 4-5 part alerts at any given time to make people happy. I really do hope they find another way for us to get those parts and where we can reliably obtain them without the "this mission has a 0.2% chance to drop the prime part as bonus" and you run it 250 times and don't see anything at all. But as said, we're speculating now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--GOOLOO_GOOLOO_GOOLOO-- Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 What is the difference between Atlas and Wu Kong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 What is the difference between Atlas and Wu Kong? Atlas is a headless looking Brawler/Earthbender. Wukong is a monkey king that can disappear and summon a giant stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--GOOLOO_GOOLOO_GOOLOO-- Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 So it is two different frames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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