Landslide's Probably Gonna Get Nerfed

[Evanescent]

Given that it is his primary and only direct damage ability, and given his brawler theme, I think it's fitting that his fists are his deadliest weapons.

[blasron]

what i can see his first power is : hight risk (since well you headbutt the enemies), but high reward (massive domage).

 

Its sure that 10k+ domage seem gigantic but we have excal that can stay with his EB forever (mine hit many many time in the range of 100k+). Even with the mechanic of taking less energie it still take 10 time more that EB an hysteria.

 

Another thing with Atlas he only have 2 domage power his first and his 4 but we know that beside our sentinel compagnion are generally dumd has feet

[DrBorris]

It takes a lot more energy than Valk's and Excal's ult and Atlas has no defensive abilities to help him out (compared to Valk and Excal), I see nothing wrong.

[PnOyLeeT]

if i ever see an atlas in a RAID and doing spy mission with out sounding the alarm and very beneficial in team runs giving team buffs

and out damaging/killing other AOE frames in exterminate missions then only then

i will give him the nerf he deserves by deleting him in my inventory so it be fair to my prime frames coz hes too good ;)

Edited October 9, 2015 by Pnoyleet

[(PSN)wonderwoman814]

nerf...already?

[Cidolfus]

So are you campaigning for it to be nerfed?

 

So what if he is?

 

Really guys, we need to stop being afraid of balance. A 1 ability shouldn't be so powerful it basically demolishes everything in the game. I'd go as far as to say a 4 ability shouldn't be that powerful either.

 

It's great that he got buffed. He needed it. However Landslide really shouldn't be doing such a huge amount of damage. Maybe if it was closer to Excal's, but instead of slash damage it does impact and stuns/knocks down enemies. That sounds both viable and balanced to me.

[(PSN)whiskey_14]

nerf...already?

actually this is the second nerf thread, there was one a few hours before this one for a different ability I believe. lol

I won't includes the link only because I fear of another!

[(PSN)wonderwoman814]

actually this is the second nerf thread, there was one a few hours before this one for a different ability I believe. lol

I won't includes the link only because I fear of another!

oh dude its the dirgia all over again by the time consoles got it its nerfed to the ground now :C. come on guys

[TotallyLagging]

Tested vs. level 75 Corrupted Heavy Gunner, took 100 energy with 60% efficiency, 45% power strength and crit Ack & Brunt.

 

... I really don't know how that happened. Maybe because I'm using viral vs. ferrite...

[RawGritz]

So what if he is?

 

Really guys, we need to stop being afraid of balance. A 1 ability shouldn't be so powerful it basically demolishes everything in the game. I'd go as far as to say a 4 ability shouldn't be that powerful either.

 

It's great that he got buffed. He needed it. However Landslide really shouldn't be doing such a huge amount of damage. Maybe if it was closer to Excal's, but instead of slash damage it does impact and stuns/knocks down enemies. That sounds both viable and balanced to me.

Do you even Atlas, Bro?

[HankJwimbleton]

They might remove the crit aspect of it, i dunno.

 

But Excal and Valkyr are a lot more...safer. Excal can lifesteal, so can Valkyr. Plus Valkyr is immortal.

"I.... AM.. ETERNAL"

[LynxZ4r0Z]

Then lets nerf everything....every strong ability....every strong weapon....everything that is strong and what will we be left with? Nothing...absolutely nothing...ATLAS is a BRAWLER AKA FIST FIGHTER mostly sooo it makes sense that his landslide ability deals high ammount of dmg...Basic LOGIC.

If your saying atlases 1st ability needs to be nerfed/is too strong then lets nerf valkyrs hysteria and excals EB and saryn's miasma....i could name many more.

[Shinigami_Greed]

DE did a beautiful thing that gives me hope for the future with this.

 

Now can we get some other weak damage abilities upgraded to be affected by weapon mods DE?

 

*Stares at Fireball, Shock, and Freeze.... *

[Enigma-Salad]

his 4 is pretty meh and far from "press to win" like many other frames so I think its just fair compensation.

[Kastorius]

I can dish out comparable or potentially even higher damage in a much wider area with a properly modded Galatine, Tempo Royale, and Rhino's Roar.

 

Whenever these nerf campaigns crop up, I wonder if people remember that there is a grenade launcher in this game that can instagib groups of level 80+ enemies, from a distance, without the aid of any Warframe powers.

[(PSN)TrollyThyTrinity]

why be so hung up that its a 1, all frames do not have to follow the same format. given that some tenno dont like dependant 4 users 

and Balance is not just nerfs its buffs too. they stuck with a brawler theme now he is , now more complaining.

looks like the game is "Everbody wins, when Nobody wins"

[BattledOne]

So basically, with say 200% power str, with properly built melee it will do 8960 impact and 26880-32256 elemental damage at 4x (43008 if you replace the 2 crit mods with more elementals). So without factoring crit it already is VERY good and justifies the brawler name of the frame. 35k-52k raw damage nuke, that is affected by melee combo multiplier, that after 2 casts gains free maximum efficiency.

Pretty nice honestly, but not not overly special, as Valkyr basically does the same damage per hit in her ult.

[crackbeard]

It's fine if his first ability is powerful because his wall dies in 3 seconds and the golems are whack. 

 

I'd rather his unique and interactive ability be the most useful over a crappy pet rock summon.

Edited October 9, 2015 by crackbeard

[Cidolfus]

Do you even Atlas, Bro?

 

That's not even an answer, "bro". If you don't have anything to say against my opinion, kindly don't say anything at all. Just makes you sound incompetent.

[DelialFallen]

I do think it's a bit overtuned at present and have no doubt DE will be adjusting things soon, and hopefully not too deeply in the Nerf zone.

Speaking of nerfs, I'm wondering where the Nerf Squad is. Usually they're all over this sort of thing like it brings deep philosophical meaning to their lives.

[Laoshottie_X]

Why nerf? This S#&$ is amazing and fit's in the category of endgame dps such as excal and valkyr, his other skills are for control, not dps, #1 is suppose to do damage for the intended "BRAWLER" description

[DraccoDoom]

May be I get to use him now (at least I will check him out) because as of now he was so meeeeeh Warframe. His first power full combo could not even kill some lv 30 enemies it was a waste of time and energy, second is a crappy shield and its super hard to hit anything with the boulder if they are not in narro hallway. 3rd is ok. and 4th is another waste of energy power.

 

In other words only his 3rd power was good because it had scaling in to higher level and even then there are warframes that can do the same but better.

Edited October 9, 2015 by DraccoDoom

[Ghostar]

He needs something to let him fight in endgame. It's not like its a warframe rule that your first ability MUST be week, infact I can think of quite a few frames where your first ability is your go to. Landslide IS honestly over powered, (and I say that as a hard core fan of the power) But I do feel there is some balance in it. Of course you have to be in close range which CAN be troublesome at times, but more importantly you have to have a melee weapon modded a certain way to even have this level of power. I feel that effort = reward, sometimes things are balanced in that they are so hard to get. (Looking at the 120 Damage mods.) The only way I can see him being remotely playable is for his other abilities to get a buff and have Landslide only take PHYSICAL damage mods for damage modifiers. That or remove the crit ability of his fists.

[Pakon3ds]

We complained about Atlas, a lot, me included. Now he recieves the attention that he needed, the buffs that he needed, now is actually a warframe, and someone has to come to say "its too much, nerf pls? " what. the. F***. 

 

I cant add too much to the discussion at this point, but i have to agree with many Tennos over here:

 

1- Being his 1º ability doesnt mean the ability has to suck.

 

2- Its his only REAL damage ability, the other falling in the utility section. 

 

3- Doesnt have the benefits of other damage abilities, such as life steal, stupidly high aoe effects, or afk-brain systems that do the work for you. 

 

4- You are hitting with rock arms to the face of humanoid creatures, have you ever seen what happens to one person when a rock the size of a melon falls on their heads? 

 

5- Why do you guys have to compare always everything with excalibur ? why do you speak as if excalibur has to be the best at everything and if someone else can do similar stuff than excalibur, it needs a nerf ? 

 

6- This kind of posts ruin my days. 

[Laoshottie_X]

This buff to him brought some light about DE since a lot of recent things have been nerfed, if Atlas has to get to the point of subpar again. I just don't even know why.