Vargras Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) All because the current "stack negative duration, press 4 to delete everything" build won't be optimal anymore. It's inevitable that you'll reach a point in time in which your current favored build on just about anything will change. You will have to get out of your comfort zone, and you will have to adapt. It's not all that bad, really -- change is good and prevents stagnation, and Saryn desperately needed something to give her more gameplay than the age-old "press 4 to win" that's much-loathed by many players. It's a rework. They're adding more value to duration for her, which in turn buffs all of her other skills. It's definitely not a nerf. EDIT: Currently, based upon the devstream, some of the devs actually fear Saryn might be overpowered post-rework. So there's that too. Edited October 30, 2015 by Vargras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeromanicus Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Many people love press 4 to win though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStag Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I don't know what else I can say other than "I agree". I think people should wait until the actual changes come out before we criticize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Ember will be the next FotM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Many people love press 4 to win though. That's cool, but it's pretty clear that the devs don't favor it at all, and they're making the changes they view necessary to address that, as made evident by LOS restrictions and skill being shuffled around (I.E. Radial Javelin becoming Exal's 3rd and not 4th, and taking a nerf to go with it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-S--Nightmaric Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 UmbraClem thoughts: NOOOOO MAH BABYEH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouhi Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I just wished they had switched Contagion with a new skill :V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)crankonacranky Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm actually excited about the rework I think they brought more life into her, being as all the powers synergizes so well together. And as you said more then just go to a room and hit 4 n watch the room become a toxic mess. I'm actually most excited about the changes to venom the most since it was always a little bland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husla Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm disappointed on how weak it is. Sure make other abilties better but do it without making others redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xewkeryx Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Was Saryn even alive to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koler. Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Was Saryn even alive to begin with? You should try farming Draco on PC to get answer on your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm disappointed on how weak it is. Sure make other abilties better but do it without making others redundant. She's actually looking to end up stronger post-rework. Venom Spore and Contagion both look to do some serious damage now, and you can boost Miasma's damage by up to 200%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeromanicus Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 That's cool, but it's pretty clear that the devs don't favor it at all, and they're making the changes they view necessary to address that, as made evident by LOS restrictions and skill being shuffled around (I.E. Radial Javelin becoming Exal's 3rd and not 4th, and taking a nerf to go with it). Hopefully the starmap changes will reduce the primary reason i think people do like press 4 to win, the fact they're grinding the same map repeatedly and just want to kind of play without much attention. During Viver i used to just watch tv while pressing 4 at my computer to get rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latiac Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm just gonna do the obligatory thing here. RIP Saryn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desdendelle Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Iunno about other people, but I'm looking forward to being able to use Miasma without having to neuter Saryn's other abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon_J Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 lol its already happening - https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/553837-rip-saryn-you-were-too-much-fun/ i'm glad she wont be some stupid 4 spam nuke anymore i hate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasamiSlamma Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 please give molt 500% bonus damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzkyl Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 A good deal of the forum react liek kids sometimes. Instantly crying it's the end of the world, the instant their toy is changed. I'd actually like for someone to tell me which rework/revisit DE did this year that didn't benefit the frame because so far Excalibur and Frost are extremely good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryker Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 This reminds me of Karthus in league.. Where's the picture.. here it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koler. Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 A good deal of the forum react liek kids sometimes. Instantly crying it's the end of the world, the instant their toy is changed. I'd actually like for someone to tell me which rework/revisit DE did this year that didn't benefit the frame because so far Excalibur and Frost are extremely good. They changed Excal from "press 4 to win" to "press 4 to win but little bit slower". Frost was changed from "defence only" to "hey you can actually kill now with your skills". We have to see what Saryn will be about. Because devstream showed us not the best gameplay. I mean if your frame can't kill lvl 40 bombard after being potatoed and having build...that's a very bad news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Its.a.nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryker Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Its.a.nerf You mean so people can no longer watch TV while eating a bowl of cereal and just spamming 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kira4715 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Yeah great rework now we press 1 2 3 4 just to kill a level 40 bombard much op >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Sokol Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Yeah great rework now we press 1 2 3 4 just to kill a level 40 bombard much op >_> Don't forget you use up all your energy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kira4715 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Don't forget you use up all your energy as well. Ohh yeah forgot even if you have prime flow you'll use it all up for one group 10/10 rework /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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