sir_deadlock Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) When you do The Second Dream quest, you get some RPG conversation choices and you are asked to choose a the school that is most like you. DO NOT PICK THE SCHOOL THAT IS ACTUALLY MOST LIKE YOU! This is all about picking an ability tree to add to your warframe. Maybe your personality is like your play style, but make your decision based on your play style, not your personality. So when your friends say "take your favorite warframe" that's why, not because of the cinematics and photo ops, but because this will be your 5th ability and you want to put it on a warframe you'll be comfortable using (because you'll be starting a whole new grind). All Warframes gain the ability to use your power once unlocked. I've done it with four different ones so far, it all functions the same. The Warframe is not what is getting the ability. If you mean the lens you get, you don't need to put that onto a Warframe or even carry a lens with you at all to use it. I put my lens on a weapon, and frames I did not take to the quest using different weapons can still use the ability. Madurai = "special beam cannon!" Vazarin = Medic Naramon = crowd control Spy/DPS Unairu = Crowd Control Tank Zenurik = Energy dispenser I'm going to try to simplify this for you. Everything you choose here is mostly in the game already, but this looks different. For example, if you ever said to yourself "I love my Nova, but I wish she had more armor" or "There's never a healer around when I need one" then this is the answer to your prayers. I will be paraphrasing to the best of my ability from this source: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus For more detailed explanations regarding cost, duration, application, etc. please visit the Wikia page. My goal here is to give a TL;DR of the options. Each focus has a "mastery" unlock, which reduces cooldown, so I won't include those. Madurai base ability: Phoenix Gaze: essentially an opticore sized Flux laser that shoots from your chest Searing wrath: + puncture damage Burning rage: + impact damage Pheonix flash: + fire rate, - range Rising ashes: + blast damage Chimera breath: splits the beam three ways. Just think hall of mirrors. Hades touch: + fire proc Meteorite: + blast & splash damage Dragon fire: essentially Oberon's Hallowed Ground with fire proc Vazarin Base ability: Mending Tides/AKA Trinity's Blessing meets Oberon's Renewal: short range insta-heal. New Moon: kind of like Nekros' Soul Survivor augment. It revives allies (though I don't know if this applies to post bleedout). Disciplined approach: players share affinity from farther away for the rest of the mission. Retaliation: essentially the Reflection mod, but applies to all attacks and no need to block. Mending Shower: + radious, - effectiveness Polluted Waters: Revives, chance to proc viral or magnetic Protection Ward: Frost's Snowglobe, but no cold proc Commanding words: short range molecular prime aura, blast & stun damage Strengthen Defenses: +shield restore Guardian Presence:....? "Mending Tides grants affected allies a Protection Ward" Naramon Base ability: Mind Spike:"Unleashes bursts of psychic energy that inflict Confusion on enemies." Mind Spike literally just stun locks I should know, I have it. Mind Blast: - range, + AOE Traumatic Redirection: 3 crit melee attacks at the expense of health Tactical Spike: + crit chance for allies Reveal Weakness: + Exalibur's radial blind without the stun Sundering Blast: + X% Loki's Disarm. Cloaking Aura: Itzal's Penumbra (group cloak) Strategic Execution: + affinity on melee kills Deadly Intent: +crit chance to melee Shadow Step: melee crit activates personal invis Unairu Base ability: Basilisk Flare: Atlas' Petrify Stone Shape: + armor Medusa Touch Skin: Like Saryn's toxic lash, but petrify proc instead of viral Unairu's Medusa Touch only activates when THEY hit you, not the other way around. Mainly because it was changed to Medusa Skin... I feel lied and betrayed. Mighty Blows: melee reduces enemy's armor Scorched Earth: Ember's Fire Blast, but self harm risk like Thunderbolt. Lasting Judgement: - movement speed, + petrify fire rate Crushing Force: petrified enemies take damage Weight of Justice: +damage Stone Armor: Basilisk flare can be used to buff ally armor. Erode Defenses: like a corrosive projection proc Zenurik Base ability: Void Pulse/Rhino Stomp like sound quake Time Stream: +sprint, - shields Temporal Storm: same as above, but for allies. Together, they're like Volt's Speed, I guess. Energy Overflow: energy restore Systematic Override: +warframe ability efficiency Energy Spike: energy orbs restore ally energy too Energy Surge: Team energy restore Rift Sight: enemy sense + Assasin's Creed Eagle Vision Umbra Lance: "Void Pulse creates an aura around the player that lashes out at enemies with harmful Void energy." Magnetic Aftershock: Mag's Bullet Attractor Edited December 10, 2015 by sir_deadlock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)BlaineKodos Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 This is all about picking an ability tree to add to your warframe. So when your friends say "take your favorite warframe" that's why, not because of the cinematics and photo ops, but because this will be your 5th ability and you want to put it on a warframe you'll be comfortable using (because you'll be starting a whole new grind). All Warframes gain the ability to use your power once unlocked. I've done it with four different ones so far, it all functions the same. The Warframe is not what is getting the ability. If you mean the lens you get, you don't need to put that onto a Warframe or even carry a lens with you at all to use it. I put my lens on a weapon, and frames I did not take to the quest using different weapons can still use the ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorise Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 When you do The Second Dream quest, you get some RPG conversation choices and you are asked to choose a the school that is most like you. DO NOT PICK THE SCHOOL THAT IS ACTUALLY MOST LIKE YOU! That was actually the right decision I made after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos-mevim Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I wish the menu at the time had at least an explanation of each of the powers because I so regret my choice, I also wish it told me that I would be locked in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swailwort Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I chose Vazarin (that's most like me) and I am happy with my choice. All the CC, damage or Debuffs don't matter when you are dead. It's become essential to use it constantly in my weaker CC and not melee focused frames, and it has even saved my but with Valkyr when I forgot my Life Strike and Hysteria healing. Hope insta reviving allies is good, seems VERY useful for the defense sortie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuki. Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) I picked the mountain one b/c it sounded like it was defensive/healing kinda thing. Vazarim, the one I actually wanted was described as being a 'counter attack' type ability. So not only am I set back by a huge amount of time, I also accidently put that focus on the wrong frame; UI confused me intially and I did not know if it was equiped or not cus there was a huge check mark on it. Anyways, I screwed up and it's gonna cost me months of grinding sorties just to fix this. At this point, might just take a long break and hope focus prices for plat is cheaper later on I guess. :\ If they had included the trees when the choice came up then this would not even be an issue. Edited December 5, 2015 by fizbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yezzik Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Disciplined approach: players share affinity from farther away for the rest of the mission. That one is clearly the best, for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorkheff Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Well, at least now I know which one I want. Unairu isn't terrible, but Madurai seems like it would accomplish what I want out of my "Liberation" move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missmessy Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I picked the mountain one b/c it sounded like it was defensive/healing kinda thing. Vazarim, the one I actually wanted was described as being a 'counter attack' type ability. So not only am I set back by a huge amount of time, I also accidently put that focus on the wrong frame; UI confused me intially and I did not know if it was equiped or not cus there was a huge check mark on it. Anyways, I screwed up and it's gonna cost me months of grinding sorties just to fix this. At this point, might just take a long break and hope focus prices for plat is cheaper later on I guess. :\ If they had included the trees when the choice came up then this would not even be an issue. i made the same mistake.......i'm so pi..ed by this i'm not even angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 How do you know Umbra Lances is like Hydriods tentacle swarm ? Do you have a vid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feallike Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 You should probably go into more detail because some of these passives don't effect weapons, and or only work during the Focus ability is active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_deadlock Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) How do you know Umbra Lances is like Hydriods tentacle swarm ? Do you have a vid The description on the wikia says Umbra Lance: Void Pulse creates an aura around the player that lashes out at enemies with harmful Void energy. (80,000 focus to unlock)So really, that's what I'm assuming it is. But now I'm going to look it up! *searches* couldn't find anything. So I could very well be wrong, but that's what it sounds like. Probably won't look like it though. Maybe it'll be like when Vauban casts a bunch of Tesla orbs on a player. I'll change it to the wikia description. Thank you! You should probably go into more detail because some of these passives don't effect weapons, and or only work during the Focus ability is active. I'm trying to keep it short as possible. I posted my source which has gratuitously more accurate details. I will emphasize that point. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Edited December 5, 2015 by sir_deadlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarmakX99 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I wish the menu at the time had at least an explanation of each of the powers because I so regret my choice, I also wish it told me that I would be locked in From what I can tell, you aren't locked in at all. You can unlock the other paths and then equip whatever ability they have. Now, you'll need an appropriate lens to level that path up, but those can be gotten as rewards in the new sorties. So no need to get worried or mad if you chose a path you don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SugarShow Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Whatever set got first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorkheff Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 From what I can tell, you aren't locked in at all. You can unlock the other paths and then equip whatever ability they have. Now, you'll need an appropriate lens to level that path up, but those can be gotten as rewards in the new sorties. So no need to get worried or mad if you chose a path you don't like. This is true, partially. But some of us are able to complete the quest, but aren't able to take on enemies above level 40-55. So running sorties outside of being carried by generous Tenno is out of the question. And that whole time you now get to _not_ enjoy your quest rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLucifer Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I picked Naramon for RP reasons and i don't regret it at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_deadlock Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 I picked Naramon for RP reasons and i don't regret it at all... Glad you have no regrets :-) It's all about having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian_Legion Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 chose naramon based on what I feel my tenno believes in and I love the naruman effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 i will take zenurik cz its most useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarmakX99 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 This is true, partially. But some of us are able to complete the quest, but aren't able to take on enemies above level 40-55. So running sorties outside of being carried by generous Tenno is out of the question. And that whole time you now get to _not_ enjoy your quest rewards. Yeah, that's true too. I'm sure DE will make em available occasionally as alert rewards and other ways as well. Only getting them through sorties does seem a bit limiting if you aren't very good at the game or don't have decent equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 im going to wait till their is videos for all of this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheePrime Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Anyone know if the melee passives, such as invis on crit requires a lens on the melee weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishworshipper Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Your Naramon Ability description is off. It's Chaos being repeatedly cast in a cone. Imagine if Wukong's first ability didn't stop on contact and caused Radiation procs. It's basically that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpdn Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I plugged in Vazarin lens on my Trinity. *finds out it heals* FRAGGGGGGGGGGG Luckily, the thing also revives and potentially "shields" (though Im not sure what the ward is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozellia Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Zenurik because domination is key :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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