This could have been great !

[Asillatem]

Heey,

I have been playing this game for some time now, and for the most part iam having fun. But i makes so so sad think about what this game could have been.

Components(mod) changes apperence on your weapons. ex. optical sight on rifle, bigger magasin on guns etc.

Combos for melee

seperrate warframe and skills with individuel "mod trees"

more elemental types

pvp.

more weapons (thinking borderlands ish)

trading system so crafting is more fun.

more blueprints

different landscaps, so you dont feel like you have been on the same spaceship for days.

Chat channels, so you can find new friends too play with, or even find players there want to do the same boss over and over agian.

So basicily you got the basic game SPOT ON, it easily one of the best comcepts for at game i have seen in a loong time. but it needs something more, that xtra thing that keeps me coming back for more, and making me wanna give you guys the money your work deservs, as for now my money will stay in my pocket, because to many times you end up supporting devs and the game ends up dying in less then 2-4 months.

Best Regards Asillatem, (a big supporter for your game and concept, so please dont die)

[Labcat]

With PvP you face the issue: How do you balance PvP, at the same time that PvE is balanced?

Just look at World of Warcraft. And they have not even solved the issue.

Edited January 21, 2013 by Labcat

[GIMO]

Mostly all good ideas, but i don't understand why you're saying "could have been great"... speaking as if the game is finished and with flaws... everything is open to change still

[Zakalwe]

But i makes so so sad think about what this game could have been.

I don't think you udnerstand what a closed Beta is. This game is in early development still, we're testing it for the devs and they're using our deedback and data to make their game.

[Ced23Ric]

Components(mod) changes apperence on your weapons. ex. optical sight on rifle, bigger magasin on guns etc. ; Combos for melee; seperrate warframe and skills with individuel "mod trees"; more elemental types; more weapons (thinking borderlands ish); trading system so crafting is more fun. ; more blueprints; different landscaps, so you dont feel like you have been on the same spaceship for days. ; Chat channels, so you can find new friends too play with, or even find players there want to do the same boss over and over agian.

Visuals will be obtainable for Platinum in the future, as in most F2P games. Bigger magazines can be achieved with mods already. Melee system will be expanded upon. Suggest a model that works for level warframes, then. What elements are we missing, and what would they be good for? More weapons/frames and thusly, blueprints are in the works. Same with levels, the next one will be released soonishly. Chat system is currently very basic and will be expanded upon later.

(a big supporter for your game and concept, so please dont die)

Purely platonical supporter, of course.

[Kaiku]

With PvP you face the issue: How do you balance PvP, at the same time that PvE is balanced?

Just look at World of Warcraft. And they have not even solved the issue.

True. Keep the pvp out from this game. Or even if it was possible, it should be really minimal. Like a place where you could duel against your friends. No scoreboards or game modes. Just 2 players who could damage each other.

But the more pvp elements a game has, the more of them players want.

But, I give you my support on Borderlands style weapons though. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/5472-borderlands-style-weapons-to-warframe/

[Galestorm]

dude, you are asking for ALOT. what your asking for is basically sword art online where you can use guns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_Art_Online

for those that don't know what SAO is

guild wars has one of the most extensive crafting systems I've ever seen, and the weapons still don't have much cutomization. I mean it seems like you want BL retribution where you can customize each part of your gun, just leave it at the mods in my opinion, time better spent elsewhere on the game.

I do like the chat and trading ideas, I think that the community should be able to have more interaction with each other in-game.

as for the "more this" suggestion, the game is still in beta im sure there wil be plenty more to come

[Asillatem]

I don't think you udnerstand what a closed Beta is. This game is in early development still, we're testing it for the devs and they're using our deedback and data to make their game.

being a beta tester in mutiple titles over a great periode of time, then yes i know what beta is, and to my knowlegde i never seen a game allready in beta changing greatly. Yeah i know they a using our feedback why do you think i made this post ? :)

Visuals will be obtainable for Platinum in the future, as in most F2P games. Bigger magazines can be achieved with mods already. Melee system will be expanded upon. Suggest a model that works for level warframes, then. What elements are we missing, and what would they be good for? More weapons/frames and thusly, blueprints are in the works. Same with levels, the next one will be released soonishly. Chat system is currently very basic and will be expanded upon later.

Bigger magazines as i visuel. ;) what elements your a missing ? Fire(burn over time) Poision(slow or damage over time)

Purely platonical supporter, of course.

Iam not hoping you are connected within the dev team, when your making that kind of respond... if you are, then yes ill support the game, when it hits a standard where payment justified, ill not some kind off fanboy with a (shut up and take my money) attitude when i see alien ninja..

But sure lets see where they take it form here, cant wait to see the final product..

[Asillatem]

dude, you are asking for ALOT. what your asking for is basically sword art online where you can use guns.

http://en.wikipedia....word_Art_Online

for those that don't know what SAO is

guild wars has one of the most extensive crafting systems I've ever seen, and the weapons still don't have much cutomization. I mean it seems like you want BL retribution where you can customize each part of your gun, just leave it at the mods in my opinion, time better spent elsewhere on the game.

Surely its not a little change, but i think it could be great, Loadout have one of the more funny and innovating ideas to how a weapon costume system could be, not saying that this is the solutions, but its sure is a orginal idea. http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/727806/loadout-gameplay-preview-a-weapon-crafting-walkthrough/

[Scypher]

Hmm.... How to approach this, like others say saying could of been is pretty much saying you have already written this game off. I am assuming you didn't really think what you were saying through and say that things will come as they come. We are still in closed beta with no release date announced. The game may not launch until june of this year if not later. We don't know, hell even the devs probably don't know. They may have a timeframe but not a for sure thing.

Considering this game is in closed beta and is as polished as it is, I really have no complaints about a game in closed beta. I have been in plenty of closed betas and this one is one that I am astounded with. I am an active streamer and have already clocked close to 100 hours in this game in a week. For some of you sure you are looking at this game as a completed project, a whole game. Others are doing what closed beta is actually used for, finding bugs, glitches, exploits, balance issues, and so on.

I write this in hopes that others see this and realize that this isn't a final product, it is a prototype.

[Volt_Cruelerz]

and to my knowlegde i never seen a game allready in beta changing greatly.

I can think of a few...

Sins of a Solar Empire: Underwent HUGE changes in its beta to become what it is now.

Sins of a Dark Age: I'm not sure what I'm allowed to say on this one.

Legions: Overdrive: we've added a ton in patch 1.4

Tribes: Ascend: they completely overhauled their class system from the ground up and had two massive balance patches that changed everything

And those are just the first that come to mind... This is a closed beta.

Also, regarding most of your comments, this is early closed beta. They're working on new content, but they have to get the design down first. Patience.

[Asillatem]

Mostly all good ideas, but i don't understand why you're saying "could have been great"... speaking as if the game is finished and with flaws... everything is open to change still

if i wrote (my ideas for the game) no one will open the debat, but if you throw a little gasolin on the fire, all the fanboys will come and say what they think, (hopefuly about the game)

Btw would rather see alot of incomplete orginal ideas, then no ideas in a almost perfect running game..

so my consern is that its only small changes from here, since the game look and runs the way i does..

[Galestorm]

Surely its not a little change, but i think it could be great, Loadout have one of the more funny and innovating ideas to how a weapon costume system could be, not saying that this is the solutions, but its sure is a orginal idea. http://www.g4tv.com/...ng-walkthrough/

Don't get me wrong i think that would also be amazing, but I think thats a little much to ask, if they give it thats awesome but I can't ask them to make a supergame.

[Scypher]

if i wrote (my ideas for the game) no one will open the debat, but if you throw a little gasolin on the fire, all the fanboys will come and say what they think, (hopefuly about the game)

Btw would rather see alot of incomplete orginal ideas, then no ideas in a almost perfect running game..

so my consern is that its only small changes from here, since the game look and runs the way i does..

So you basically wrote a instigating comment, to draw in people that would look down on you rather than people who would probably support some of your ideas? You confuse me, not to mention you didn't even bring this thought process to light until someone calls you out on it. You should of posted this in your original post, you already got the people to come.

It sort of saddens me that you resorted this type of tactic when I really haven't seen that many as you say "fanboys". I have maybe seen a total of 2 that I would possibly even consider labeling as fanboys. With how great DE is working on this game, and the fact that the only people that are in this forum are people that have joined the closed beta, I would hope that the people posting wouldn't be trying to fan the flames of others, and would try to improve the game and its community.

[Kaiku]

if i wrote (my ideas for the game) no one will open the debat, but if you throw a little gasolin on the fire, all the fanboys will come and say what they think, (hopefuly about the game)

Btw would rather see alot of incomplete orginal ideas, then no ideas in a almost perfect running game..

so my consern is that its only small changes from here, since the game look and runs the way i does..

That's the best way to start a good thread. You did succeed in that.

What I think of the current system Warframe has:

Each weapon should be more like a sidegrade and as should the warframes and different kind of mods too.

Currently they're clearly inbalanced and some guns, warframes and certain type of mods are way better and more useful than others.

They need to be balanced.

In my opinion this kind of system works the best in a PVP oriented game. As long as everything is balanced.

Or, you can have a system which allows you to find and craft different weapons, and other items, mods at least, with random stats, but depending on their level and rarity, they have better chances of having better stats. This is the most common system used in RPGs.

This works the best in a PVE oriented game.

That's why I feel like Warframe is using a wrong kind of system.

Edited January 21, 2013 by Kaiku

[Zakalwe]

being a beta tester in mutiple titles over a great periode of time, then yes i know what beta is, and to my knowlegde i never seen a game allready in beta changing greatly. Yeah i know they a using our feedback why do you think i made this post ? :)

Then you can't have been a memeber of as many as you claim. Most betas in this stage change a good deal, not remarkably from their core, but in terms of gerneral improvements and additional content they tend to improve a lot.

[Roujou]

Why do people spend time making paragraph responses when the answer is explainable in 3 words?

Closed. Muthaf%$^kin. Beta.

[Scypher]

Why do people spend time making paragraph responses when the answer is explainable in 3 words?

Closed. Muthaf%$^kin. Beta.

*sigh* Maybe because some people like to put some thought into their response and give proper responses that properly reflect our thoughts.

Edited January 21, 2013 by Scypher

[Zakalwe]

I would also like to say the feedback in the OP's post doesn't amount ot much. All he's done is written a wishlist of things that are already being discussed in depth in many other threads.

Instead of making yet another wishlist thread with a flamebate title, he could have actually helped by contributing to the existing relevant discussions.

Just a thought.

[Baconation]

as for now my money will stay in my pocket, because to many times you end up supporting devs and the game ends up dying in less then 2-4 months.

Best Regards Asillatem, (a big supporter for your game and concept, so please dont die)

So you won't pay to support the game because you are scared the game will die but the reason games die are exactly because of that reason...

Spend your money to support the game now so it doesn't die later.

[Galestorm]

Why do people spend time making paragraph responses when the answer is explainable in 3 words?

Closed. Muthaf%$^kin. Beta.

we do this because we have a complex opinion on the issue, we don't just say its closed beta because thats not a universal excuse, and because we think we have some good ideas for the game, if we just said them straight out, we would probably be disregarded as opposed to when we explain our ideas. It makes it seem like we've thought it through to some degree. Answers are rarely that simple.

[GIMO]

dude, you are asking for ALOT. what your asking for is basically sword art online where you can use guns.

Sorry for being extremely off topic, but i love that anime :D

[Asillatem]

Don't get me wrong i think that would also be amazing, but I think thats a little much to ask, if they give it thats awesome but I can't ask them to make a supergame.

Just an exsampel, and its not unheard that a f2f game is a triple A title.. not saying that loadout is the way, but its a great idea

That's the best way to start a good thread. You did succeed in that.

Spot on! ;)

Then you can't have been a memeber of as many as you claim. Most betas in this stage change a good deal, not remarkably from their core, but in terms of gerneral improvements and additional content they tend to improve a lot.

So they change a good deal, but not much, but somthing in gerneral ? :P.. Games in beta almost never make innovation but they optimize.

the only people that are in this forum are people that have joined the closed beta,

yeah you say closed, but ill make this as puplic beta, just look at newz page, many sites are giving away beta keys, you but even have to type what kind of beta work you have done before.. no screening and keys all over the place = puplic beta..

So you won't pay to support the game because you are scared the game will die but the reason games die are exactly because of that reason...

Spend your money to support the game now so it doesn't die later.

Sry but i dont support the kickstarter model, its good for something, but not for everything..

[Zakalwe]

Spot on! ;)

No, this is not a good constructive feedback thread.

It's a wishlist of things, we don't need more of these.

And all this has become is a discussion about the thread title and your value as a beta tester. :/

[Galestorm]

No, this is not a good constructive feedback thread.

It's a wishlist of things, we don't need more of these.

And all this has become is a discussion about the thread title and your value as a beta tester. :/

I disagree, doing things this way brought the people that aren't afraid to voice their opinions and why they believe what they do, you get their pure opinion on things this way, instead of getting people who are just trying to sound sophisticated when really they havent actually thought about the subject.

Edited January 21, 2013 by Galestorm